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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:38 AM Jun 2022

Fewer children, smaller families

When I was in college, back in the 1960s, I went to a lecture about the need for smaller families. The gist of the talk was that human beings were overpopulating. Moving into wilderness, cutting down forests to make crop lands, messing up the ecology worldwide. This was long before discussion about climate warming. That families with just 1 or 2 kids, rather than 6, 7, 10, 12 kids were economically better off. A family could afford to feed, house, cloth, educate 1 or 2 kids, but large families == eh, not so much.

The lecture ended with the saying that it had to be ok to have just 1 or 2 kids, or even no kids at all. I chose to not have children. I practiced various forms of birth control, pill, IUD, cervical cap, condoms. I have never been pregnant.

If contraception is outlawed. Wowie zowie baby. That definitely will not stand.

I think they'll go after gays before they go after contraception, but it's on their list.

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Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
2. Actually, those things are a normal byproduct of advanced societies...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jun 2022

Modern, progressive societies allow more women (and men, frankly) to make career and lifestyle choices that often bypass childbearing.

We don't need families with 15 children, mostly because half of them don't die in infancy and childhood like they did in the 18th Century.

You are not at all wrong about the "sex is only for making babies" crowd.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
3. "Six billion miracles is enough."
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jun 2022

I bought that bumper sticker around the turn of the century. That sounds so long ago.

We're on a trajectory where Earth will no longer sustain our current numbers, & millions (billions?) are going to die, yet they want to enforce more births? IMO, the survival of the already living, breathing humans is more of a moral issue than abortion.

viva la

(3,300 posts)
5. Most important-- as soon as women can control their reproduction-
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

They can become economically more productive, increase their income, and become independent.

That is one of the results the religious right wants to prevent.

area51

(11,909 posts)
6. Nazis should empty out the orphanages before demanding more (white) births.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jun 2022



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Bette Midler: "117,000 children in these United States are waiting to be adopted. Why aren’t you anti-abortionists adopting all of them? What, not what you want to do with your lives? No, but you insist OTHERS to have babies they don’t want, just to satisfy your demented vanity & religiosity."

jeffreyi

(1,943 posts)
7. I actually went to a lecture by Paul Ehrlich
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

Of "population bomb" fame. When I was in high school, 1968 or so. I always thought the natural world would do better with fewer of us. So no replicating here, either.

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