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tblue37

(65,358 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 02:14 PM Jun 2022

Charles Pierce on Griswold:

Charles P. Pierce
@CharlesPPierce
Can folks please stop referring to the Griswold decision as having been "about contraception." Griswold confirmed the existence of a right to privacy within the Constitution. That's everything. /1

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It's about marriage. It's about sex. It's about what we read. It's about how we communicate with each other. It's about the limits to search and seizure. It's about medical records and genetic information. It's about libraries and the internet. /2

Charles P. Pierce
@CharlesPPierce
"...as the Ninth Amendment expressly recognizes, there are fundamental personal rights such as this one, which are protected from abridgment by the Government though not specifically mentioned in the Constitution."
-- Justice Arthur Goldberg, Griswold v. Connecticut, 1965. /3

Charles P. Pierce
@CharlesPPierce
"I am sure that the rights of conscience, in particular, if submitted to public definition would be narrowed much more than they are likely to be by an assumed power."
-- James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, 1788. /fin
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Charles Pierce on Griswold: (Original Post) tblue37 Jun 2022 OP
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2022 #1
Kick & recommend. So well written per usual from Mr. Pierce. bronxiteforever Jun 2022 #2
To strike down Griswold is to strike down the Fourteenth Amendment. ancianita Jun 2022 #3
They've always been after the 14th Nasruddin Jun 2022 #5
They'll go after the 14th to end birthright citizenship Claire Oh Nette Jun 2022 #8
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2022 #4
K&R UTUSN Jun 2022 #6
So stop the sure-to-fail-again the "codify a right to an abortion" Grins Jun 2022 #7
Whst is stopping them? intrepidity Jun 2022 #9
The right to privacy is under attack LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #10

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
5. They've always been after the 14th
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:26 PM
Jun 2022

Right-wing radio & lit in the '60's & '70's were always talking about the illegal or illegitimate 14th (because of the way ratification took place).

I'm sure they'll go after it if they can - fits the agenda.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
8. They'll go after the 14th to end birthright citizenship
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:41 PM
Jun 2022

and get rid of that pesky insurrectionist clause.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
7. So stop the sure-to-fail-again the "codify a right to an abortion"
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jun 2022

Yes!!!!

Said this for years. PRIVACY!!!

So skip trying to “codifying a right to an abortion.” Make it a law that all Americans have a right to PRIVACY in all aspects of their lives.

Imagine the arguments from the Reich-wing trying to block it!

N.B. Yes, I am aware it may take a constitutional amendment, but damn it - get on it!

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,256 posts)
10. The right to privacy is under attack
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jun 2022

This is the asshole who drafted the Texas abortion law. This asshole wants to strike down the implied right of privacy by getting Roe overruled which would/could lead to striking down the right to same sex marriage. interracial marriage, gay sex and other rights

There is a pattern here. These assholes want to get rid of Griswold and undo the right of privacy. That would cause Lawrence v. Texas (consensual same sex intercourse), Cooling v. Virginia (inter-racial marriage), birth control and same sex marriage to be overturned.



https://www.comicsands.com/jonathan-mitchell-overturn-gay-marriage-2655065691.html
Though Mitchell's brief, also signed by his co-counsel Adam Mortara, dedicates much of its time to the Texas abortion law's defense, it also questions "lawless" pieces of legislation, namely the Lawrence v. Texas ruling, which decriminalized gay sex nationwide, and the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling, which legalized same-sex marriage.

Though the brief does not say reversing Roe v. Wade would threaten the same-sex marriage ruling, it does say that

""the news is not as good for those who hope to preserve the court-invented rights to homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage …
"These 'rights,' like the right to abortion from Roe, are judicial concoctions, and there is no other source of law that can be invoked to salvage their existence."

It goes on to add that while the Supreme Court should not necessarily overturn Lawrence and Obergefell, it should consider these two rulings as "lawless" as Roe v. Wade and, by extension, Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

"This is not to say that the Court should announce the overruling of Lawrence and Obergefell if it decides to overrule Roe and Casey in this case."
"But neither should the Court hesitate to write an opinion that leaves those decisions hanging by a thread. Lawrence and Obergefell, while far less hazardous to human life, are as lawless as Roe."







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