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doc03

(35,340 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:39 PM Jun 2022

After being out all day I turn on the TV and see

protestors being detained all over the US. On January 6th I saw cops holding the doors for the traitors walking out of our Capitol. A attempted coup is a peaceful protest, a protest is now a riot that gets gassed and detained.

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After being out all day I turn on the TV and see (Original Post) doc03 Jun 2022 OP
I hate this analogy... brooklynite Jun 2022 #1
An attempted coup is not civil disabediance? How many doc03 Jun 2022 #2
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2022 #3
So you would have delayed the resumption of the Electoral Count process until after Jan 6? brooklynite Jun 2022 #9
You're telling me they couldn't have led them out of the capitol and arrested them outside doc03 Jun 2022 #20
No, they couldn't have led them out and arrested them brooklynite Jun 2022 #21
Agree. I tend to see it as the same prism of grievance Hortensis Jun 2022 #8
I think it's a good analogy. It highlight the selective nature of police decisions. They are Martin68 Jun 2022 #12
You are 100% correct, they needed to get them out, as angry as many of us may feel about it Escurumbele Jun 2022 #16
It's pretty alarming that white supremacist traitors get a pass and protesters exercising Alpeduez21 Jun 2022 #17
Peaceful protests have been framed as riots by intheflow Jun 2022 #4
No no no snowybirdie Jun 2022 #5
From the arrests you'd think they were a mob yelling "hang the Gang Of Perverts of Justice!" ancianita Jun 2022 #6
I'll see your hacks and raise you one Inquisition. usonian Jun 2022 #13
LOL Good one, thanks! I'd call that a House of Cards! ancianita Jun 2022 #15
It's hot as hell, I woke up with a headache, I'm cleaning the damn house usonian Jun 2022 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #7
Protestors will be arrested until women accept and comply with being subjugated. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #10
They didn't have the resources on site to detain everyone at the time. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #11
People died on Jan 6th IronLionZion Jun 2022 #14
They did bdamomma Jun 2022 #18

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
1. I hate this analogy...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jun 2022

"Why did police A do something while police B did something else" is never the right question.

Add to which, the Congress had to get back into session, and it was deemed easier to throw the protestors out and arrest them later.

Which they did. And then prosecuted them. And then jailed them.

Add to which, if the SC protestors were engaged in civil disobedience, what would expect to have happen?

doc03

(35,340 posts)
2. An attempted coup is not civil disabediance? How many
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:49 PM
Jun 2022

of the traitors got away? Every single one of them should have been in jail waiting for a trial. It wasn't just one place I saw protesters being arrested.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
9. So you would have delayed the resumption of the Electoral Count process until after Jan 6?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jun 2022

At which point, Trump could have said that because it wasn't conducted on the 6th, the count wasn't official?

Pence, Pelosi and Schumer wanted the count done as quickly as possible. The required clearing out the Capitol as quickly as possible.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
20. You're telling me they couldn't have led them out of the capitol and arrested them outside
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:06 AM
Jun 2022

I don't buy that. I am not black but if they would have been BLM attempting a coup of the USA
there would have been many lives lost and they would have been in jail that day. If we don't have enough law enforcement
or National Guard to corral them outside of our national capitol while they get booked it is a sad day for this country.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
21. No, they couldn't have led them out and arrested them
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:31 AM
Jun 2022

You would need a corral outside to hold them (which didn't exist) and enough police to guard them, and you would have had to have limited exit points to funnel them into the corral which would have added to the time required.

I'm also not black, and I don't subscribe to the tired stereotype that all police are racists and would have "opened fire" on the equivalent attack by BLM. The Capitol was protected by the Capitol Police that everyone was lauding a year ago, and supported by DC Metro police that high a high proportion of African Americans. The problem with the Capitol Insurrection was that the Capitol Police weren't expecting an incursion by ANYONE and weren't prepared for the mass of people that they couldn't physically hold back. Once inside the building, no LEO was going to start mass shooting protesters with automatic weapons, regardless of their race, without an impending threat of loss of life to the House or Senate members.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Agree. I tend to see it as the same prism of grievance
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jun 2022

and resentment the right's learned to view everything they don't like through. Ignoring truth as needed to indulge, which by its nature is virtually always.

But worse because it's not them.

Martin68

(22,803 posts)
12. I think it's a good analogy. It highlight the selective nature of police decisions. They are
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jun 2022

always more forgiving, more polite, and less violent with white people than minorities - and I dare say more considerate of conservative protestors than liberal ones. The bias in most police departments is obvious.

Escurumbele

(3,395 posts)
16. You are 100% correct, they needed to get them out, as angry as many of us may feel about it
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:23 PM
Jun 2022

that they were not immediately taken to jail, they had to get out of the Capitol for the proceeding to continue. Trying to get the thugs to jail would have created more violence, and at the time I don't think there was enough police/military force to subdued the thugs.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
17. It's pretty alarming that white supremacist traitors get a pass and protesters exercising
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:26 PM
Jun 2022

first amendment rights get treated as rioters.

Most of the THOUSANDS of J6 traitors will never get prosecuted b/c security was deliberately lacking. But if a bunch of woman show up all of sudden the brave cops are there to stop them. It's fucking bullshit

""Why did police A do something while police B did something else" is never the right question." What is the right question then?

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
4. Peaceful protests have been framed as riots by
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jun 2022

media and local governments for a long time. Many incidents of tear gas being used and lots of innocent people getting locked up over the 40-odd years I've been out protesting. Cops will do what they do best when they feel "threatened": terrorize and incarcerate. This is SSDD.

ACAB

snowybirdie

(5,227 posts)
5. No no no
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jun 2022

Police officers were maimed and battered in 1/6. I did not see on any news, except Arizona, that Choice protesters were hurt or worse. Come on. lets not promulgate false narratives.

usonian

(9,810 posts)
19. It's hot as hell, I woke up with a headache, I'm cleaning the damn house
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jun 2022

and that made my day.

With any luck at all

Response to doc03 (Original post)

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
10. Protestors will be arrested until women accept and comply with being subjugated.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jun 2022

If you are a white male with an assault rifle you will be left alone to murder as many school children as you want.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
11. They didn't have the resources on site to detain everyone at the time.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jun 2022

That seems pretty obvious from the videos.

I get your point and agree with the underlying assertion but the situations aren't really comparable.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
18. They did
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jun 2022

the same to protestors at the BLM peaceful protests. This is not going to be good.

All we need is a crazed Right wing lunatic to drive through a crowd. Now they are focusing on killing women. I have not turned on the TV.


Is this a case of "owning the libs", and the right loonies saying they are the victims.

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