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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:36 PM Jun 2022

Charges for Trump, others not a 'principal interest': Jan. 6 committee's Jamie Raskin

Rep. Jamie Raskin, a member of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, said Sunday that criminal charges against the people involved in trying to overturn the 2020 election -- including former President Donald Trump -- were not his "principal interest" compared to understanding how the violence unfolded to avoid it being repeated.
"Our democracy is on the line here. Our Constitution is at stake. Are we going to have violent assaults against our elections? Are we going to have politicians who, disappointed with the results, try to overthrow the election and just seize power? Is that what American democracy is going to look like in the 21st century?" the Maryland Democrat told "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz.
"So, for me, I'm principally interested in telling the American people the truth so we can fortify our institution against coups and insurrections going forward," Raskin continued.

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0gMZ4m3H?pd=0CQAFTRt&lang=en_US&s=i16

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Charges for Trump, others not a 'principal interest': Jan. 6 committee's Jamie Raskin (Original Post) liberal N proud Jun 2022 OP
Raskin is right. Criminal prosecution is neither the goal nor the function of the 1/6 committee. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #1
DU needs to have a basic FAQ on Civics. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #3
I've been griping about that problem for a long time. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #5
Any excuse to vilify Democrats. I like your idea a lot. 3 recs for the OP already emulatorloo Jun 2022 #7
Sure does. elleng Jun 2022 #8
K&R MerryHolidays Jun 2022 #4
Thank you. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #17
Here's "the fuck" right here - Congressional committees don't have the power to press charges emulatorloo Jun 2022 #2
We all understand it MOMFUDSKI Jun 2022 #6
OP made a big deal out of posting 'what the fuck'. I corrected their misunderstanding emulatorloo Jun 2022 #10
You corrected "their misunderstanding?" EndlessWire Jun 2022 #20
The "wtf" was clearly aimed at Raskin. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #23
I understand that Congress cannot charge him liberal N proud Jun 2022 #11
You're moving the goalposts. Not interested. Self-delete please. It will be better for yr credibil emulatorloo Jun 2022 #13
No, poster is entitled to his opinion. n/t EndlessWire Jun 2022 #14
Of course they are entitled to their opinion. But not their own set of 'facts' emulatorloo Jun 2022 #15
Fact free?? EndlessWire Jun 2022 #26
OP is mad Commitee isnt going to press charges. committee doesn't have the power to press charges. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #30
Who are you to tell people to self delete? sop Jun 2022 #16
Lol. It's a suggestion for how the OP might save face. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #18
This isn't some peer-reviewed journal, it's a political comment site. sop Jun 2022 #19
Too bad. I care about facts. I'm especially am not of fond fact-free shitting on good Democrats emulatorloo Jun 2022 #21
Oh, I see. You're on a one-man crusade to battle the wet blanket brigade. sop Jun 2022 #22
Lol you're hilarious. I'm just another DU'er like any other. Plus you probably have noticed I emulatorloo Jun 2022 #25
"Demonize"?? What's wrong with you? EndlessWire Jun 2022 #27
Yelling WTF at Raskin for a statement of fact he made is what exactly? emulatorloo Jun 2022 #28
Unfortunately, Raskin is wasting his time. The christofascists already "know" the only reason.... Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #9
The committee is doing what it can do. It's not up to them to arrest and indict. Solly Mack Jun 2022 #12
You want to know how to avoid it in the future? gratuitous Jun 2022 #24
+1 sop Jun 2022 #29

Ocelot II

(115,706 posts)
1. Raskin is right. Criminal prosecution is neither the goal nor the function of the 1/6 committee.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

Their job is to find out what happened, tell the public, and craft legislation to be sure it doesn't happen again. Prosecution is DoJ's job - but the 1/6 committee is giving them a lot of material to work with.

Ocelot II

(115,706 posts)
5. I've been griping about that problem for a long time.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jun 2022

A link to the Constitution should be pinned to the top of GD, and posters should be strongly encouraged to read it before spouting off.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
17. Thank you.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:03 PM
Jun 2022

I don't believe they even have the authority to prosecute. The committee is doing what they should be doing, and they are doing it quite well, thankfully.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
2. Here's "the fuck" right here - Congressional committees don't have the power to press charges
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

I know how DU likes to manufacture “outrage” and then shit on Democrats.

Maybe you should take some time reviewing Civics 101 before trying to inflame DU

In the meantime perhaps you should take advantage of the self-delete function

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
10. OP made a big deal out of posting 'what the fuck'. I corrected their misunderstanding
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:50 PM
Jun 2022

My ‘beef” is DU needs to be fact based, rather than ginning up fact free “outrage” at Raskin and Democrats on the committee based on apparent ignorance of basic civics.

EndlessWire

(6,532 posts)
20. You corrected "their misunderstanding?"
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:15 PM
Jun 2022

The only thing OP did was to post a link and ask WTF. How is that ginning up "outrage" at Dems? I barely saw that little smilie.

I see nothing at all wrong with the OPs post, even if he/she/it was on the other side desperately hoping we fail. I think you have more outrage at the article than at OP. I don't think that OP needs any schooling from you.

One thing about DU is that people are free to post links and invite discussion. The only rule for the TOS is that you can't ding Dems. Well, I don't see why asking WTF would amount to that. Surely, if OP wanted to know further, he/she would have asked--as WTF implies.

All our nerves are on edge. We are going to be tiptoeing through the tulips, so to speak, as we discover just how close the coup was, and who promoted it.

Isn't it interesting how two members of the J6 committee came out on Sunday and in essence said, "Nothing to see here?" Let's figure it out. "Figure it out NOW, Phil!" (Line from Mission To Mars.)

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
13. You're moving the goalposts. Not interested. Self-delete please. It will be better for yr credibil
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:55 PM
Jun 2022

Credibility and reputation in the long run.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
15. Of course they are entitled to their opinion. But not their own set of 'facts'
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:00 PM
Jun 2022

If fact free posting aimed at smearing J6 commitee is what they want to be known for, then that’s their right.

EndlessWire

(6,532 posts)
26. Fact free??
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:28 PM
Jun 2022

What are you talking about?? You're in a hole, and yet you keep digging. Just relax.

This wasn't aimed at "smearing J6 committee." Many of us want to understand what is going on. We all know that the J6 committee, although swearing in witnesses under penalty of perjury, cannot prosecute anyone. That is why there is much discussion on this board about what DOJ is actually doing. The testimony is preserved by the swearing in, and hopefully the witness doesn't lie to this Congressional committee.

I want to thank the OP for posting the link, as I did not spend all day reading online, and I wouldn't have known this otherwise. I can make up my own mind: I adore Adam Schiff, and hope to hear more from him in the future.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
30. OP is mad Commitee isnt going to press charges. committee doesn't have the power to press charges.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jun 2022

They are yelling WTF at Raskin based on a misunderstanding of the powers the committee has. I’m not digging a ‘hole’

OP dug their own hole.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
18. Lol. It's a suggestion for how the OP might save face.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:05 PM
Jun 2022

I even said please!

You and OP are perfectly free to post as muc fact-free stuff as you’d like. Expect to get pushback from fact-based DU’ers, especially if the point of your fact-free posts is to demonize good Democrats on the J6 committee

sop

(10,188 posts)
19. This isn't some peer-reviewed journal, it's a political comment site.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:14 PM
Jun 2022

And you're not the arbiter of truth and fact.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
21. Too bad. I care about facts. I'm especially am not of fond fact-free shitting on good Democrats
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jun 2022

If you’re ok with that, knock yourself out

BTW DU actually is peer-reviewed.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
25. Lol you're hilarious. I'm just another DU'er like any other. Plus you probably have noticed I
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

am not the only one in the thread pushing back on the original post. You might want to consider expanding yr ‘crusade’

Thanks for posting at me and take care.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
28. Yelling WTF at Raskin for a statement of fact he made is what exactly?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jun 2022

The mostly Democratic Committee doesn’t have the power to press charges. No congressional Committee can press charges.

There’s nothing wrong w me. I’m free to push back against posts that aren’t correct

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
9. Unfortunately, Raskin is wasting his time. The christofascists already "know" the only reason....
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jun 2022

for the J6 committee is to put the Pig in prison. The cultists "know" it too. Some of them think the J6 is somehow a trial and they are going to impeach him again.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
12. The committee is doing what it can do. It's not up to them to arrest and indict.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jun 2022

Getting the facts out is exactly what they should be doing and that's what they are doing.

Understanding through the facts of what took place and spelling out what happened to the people, as well as implementing legislative roadblocks to it happening again are things Congress can do, but criminal charges are the purview of the DOJ.

Now, if anyone thinks that is enough, that that's all that needs to be done - understanding and laying all the facts out - to stop it from happening again, then they are wrong. Utterly wrong. Naively wrong. Shockingly wrong.

But arrest and indictments are still up to others.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. You want to know how to avoid it in the future?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:23 PM
Jun 2022

Toss these people in jail. We decided that illegal invasions, torture of prisoners, and creating our own American gulag wasn't worth investigating or bringing those responsible for it to justice. We decided to look forward, not backward. All it did was encourage even worse behavior 12 years later.

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