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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:24 AM Jun 2022

'This is a losing issue': GOP campaign consultants panicked about upcoming midterms after Roe decisi

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'This is a losing issue': GOP campaign consultants panicked about upcoming midterms after Roe decision
Republicans
Tom Boggioni
and Raw Story
June 25, 2022


According to a report from Politico, while Republicans are publically applauding a decision from the conservative Supreme Court to dismantle the 50-year-old Roe v Wade decision that allowed women to get an abortion, in private they are admitting it could not have come at a worse time.

In interviews with Politico's David Siders, Republican Party campaign consultants are throwing up their hands in frustration at a ruling that will make it harder for them to do their jobs in November -- particularly as they try to bring suburban women back into the fold after four years of Donald Trump.

As one GOP adviser put it: "This is a losing issue for Republicans.”


According to Siders' report, "... according to interviews with more than a dozen Republican strategists and party officials, they just didn’t want it to come right now — not during a midterm election campaign in which nearly everything had been going right for the GOP," adding, "In Republican circles, a consensus has been forming for weeks that the court’s overturning of a significant — and highly popular — precedent on a deeply felt issue will be a liability for the party in the midterms and beyond, undercutting Republicans to at least some degree with moderates and suburban women."

GOP strategist John Thomas explained, "This is not a conversation we want to have. We want to have a conversation about the economy. We want to have a conversation about Joe Biden, about pretty much anything else besides Roe."

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https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/gop-consultants-abortion/
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'This is a losing issue': GOP campaign consultants panicked about upcoming midterms after Roe decisi (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2022 OP
Good. Suck it, assholes. dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #1
What you just said, dixiechiken1. calimary Jun 2022 #33
love it YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #36
Good! Suck it, assholes! ananda Jun 2022 #38
Indeed. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2022 #37
It means the Rs will go into overdrive MerryHolidays Jun 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #3
No there is scotus - 'encouraged', to go wild for the rw agenda empedocles Jun 2022 #5
However this is a conversation Casady1 Jun 2022 #4
Founders designed it that way dwayneb Jun 2022 #49
It was designed Casady1 Jun 2022 #50
My hemorrhoids bleed for them... PCIntern Jun 2022 #6
"My hemorrhoids bleed for them" Now that's funny Walleye Jun 2022 #10
One of my mom's favorite expressions. PCIntern Jun 2022 #13
Uh-oh. The dog just realized it finally caught the car. Aristus Jun 2022 #7
It gets run the fuck over. 'Find out' time, started Friday afternoon. Volaris Jun 2022 #42
Beware any news that makes the gop look like losing votes BSdetect Jun 2022 #8
They will do anything to win except adopt policies that reflect the will of the people Walleye Jun 2022 #11
Voters don't usually get truly motivated until Deminpenn Jun 2022 #9
Maybe Americans who don't bother to vote, are realizing the cost of their absence. 70sEraVet Jun 2022 #22
Doubt it, but the sleeping bear has been poked Deminpenn Jun 2022 #46
Good! BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #12
I generally don't make fun of a person's name but this is priceless Beausoleil Jun 2022 #14
Ha ha ha ha! Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #27
Oh, our Democratic candidates will make sure to make it the issue. MineralMan Jun 2022 #15
There are so many losing issues with republicans, at last one issue sticks out very high. Escurumbele Jun 2022 #16
always has been frustrating treestar Jun 2022 #21
One hopes so, but the rogue christofascist Supreme Court is a threat.... NNadir Jun 2022 #17
Moscow Mitch stacked the court with unqualified Judges KS Toronado Jun 2022 #18
John Thomas just told the media how to help treestar Jun 2022 #19
Roe Roe Roe your boat. usonian Jun 2022 #20
hopefully we will actually take advantage of republican treachery and win the midterms samsingh Jun 2022 #23
The arc of justice is long Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #24
In my experience... appmanga Jun 2022 #25
And then there is this: lillypaddle Jun 2022 #26
Very true, many Dems I knew for 30 years have switched. Jon King Jun 2022 #30
I'm one of them obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #43
women out # men - 51.1 % & 330 million people in the U.S. !! cloudboy07 Jun 2022 #28
No shit, Sherlock. Wednesdays Jun 2022 #29
Yes thats why I would take this article with a big grain of salt Cheezoholic Jun 2022 #40
They want to talk about the economy AncientOfDays Jun 2022 #31
The decision itself is bad enough, but the language and reasoning behind it put so many off. halfulglas Jun 2022 #32
And it isn't even just about Roe V Wade. The SC delivered a sledge hammer avebury Jun 2022 #34
Unless they take away the rights of women to vote YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #35
It sure as hell better be Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2022 #39
Republicans did this...& NOW REPUBLICANS PAY THE PRICE.. Stuart G Jun 2022 #41
It's a long time until November. Some other issue might pop up to split Dem votes. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2022 #44
No, ROE is the issue. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #51
"It's the economy stupid" progressoid Jun 2022 #45
Lucky for them mrchris Jun 2022 #47
why are they in a panic SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #48

calimary

(81,267 posts)
33. What you just said, dixiechiken1.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

GOOD! Suck it, ASSHOLES!

And here’s some shit to wash it down with, ASSHOLES.

Love,
calimary

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
2. It means the Rs will go into overdrive
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jun 2022

on smears against Ds and voter suppression. That's the best they can do.

Response to MerryHolidays (Reply #2)

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
4. However this is a conversation
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

we want to have. The conversation is "Do you want a minority ruling you and the country"?

dwayneb

(768 posts)
49. Founders designed it that way
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jun 2022

They were so worried about the tyranny of the majority that they made it easy for a minority to put their boot on your neck.

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
6. My hemorrhoids bleed for them...
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jun 2022

These fuckers… I wouldn’t spit on one of these bastards if he or she were burning to death.
—————-
See, now that’s how they do it. That is how we should do it…

Walleye

(31,024 posts)
10. "My hemorrhoids bleed for them" Now that's funny
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

I think we should all begin asking Republican men personal questions about their wives’ periods and menstruations every chance we get

Walleye

(31,024 posts)
11. They will do anything to win except adopt policies that reflect the will of the people
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

To the Republicans elections are not a poll of the people to find out what direction they want the country to go. To the Republicans elections are ways to make their “liberal tormentors” bleed and cry. I read that thing about Clarence Thomas two years after his appointment. Wanted to be on the court 43 years to make the liberals miserable, because that’s how long the liberals had made him miserable. Just how the fuck was he miserable when he ended up on the Supreme Court with really no outstanding qualifications. He was the beneficiary of affirmative action he lied in his confirmation hearing. But we were making him miserable. Jesus Christ!

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
9. Voters don't usually get truly motivated until
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

something directly effects them. This ruling does. It touches every American in one form or another and it brings out the distinctly American attitude of "you can't tell me what to do".

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Good!
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jun 2022

Let them keep crowing about all the other rights they are giddy to strip away from Americans. It’s about time folks woke up to the kind of Christo-Fascist totalitarian future they dream of.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
15. Oh, our Democratic candidates will make sure to make it the issue.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:32 AM
Jun 2022

Every Republican candidate is going to have to say clearly what they believe about Roe. Many, many times. It will be THE question they have to answer. Either way, it is a losing issue for Republicans. If they support choice, they lose their base. If they support the SCOTUS decision, they lose everybody else.

Our Democratic candidates need to bring it up relentlessly and demand answers from their opponents.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
16. There are so many losing issues with republicans, at last one issue sticks out very high.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jun 2022

How can people not realize that republican do not have a platform, they have no ideas, for years their platform has been "Roe vs Wade" and "Immigration", that is it, and of course "Tax Cuts" for the very rich.

How can women not realize that republicans are anti-women? My goodness, the level of ignorance that permeates through this country is so scary.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. always has been frustrating
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jun 2022

but it is true. Women are the one group where there are members of it that don't recognize the oppression. A significant number are anti-women themselves.

NNadir

(33,521 posts)
17. One hopes so, but the rogue christofascist Supreme Court is a threat....
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jun 2022

...far beyond a midterm election.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. John Thomas just told the media how to help
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

They won't be airing conversations about Roe v. Wade. They will be airing conversations about the economy and Joe Biden and pretty much all else.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
23. hopefully we will actually take advantage of republican treachery and win the midterms
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jun 2022

to save our Democracy.

appmanga

(571 posts)
25. In my experience...
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

...not only do women make up the most active and reliable voters, if an issue moves them, they lobby their family members and others in their sphere of influence to vote, and they will do what they can to be active for their choice.

The only way we have any chance and undoing this and other damage is to vote for Democrats at any level, especially in the local elections many pay no attention to. As import as it is to vote for your representatives in Congress, it's even more important to vote for your state representatives, and for who sits on your local school boards that control huge amounts of money while deciding what your kids are taught.

Democrats are aspirational which is why want to have the most progressive most of the time, but, for now, all of us have to commit to being pragmatic and strategic, which means voting for the Democrat even if they're not your ideal.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
30. Very true, many Dems I knew for 30 years have switched.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

Now that was pre Roe so lets see if it changes. But many family and neighbors and friends have changed, they cite inflation, crime, borders, trans Penn swimmer meaning their girls will have to compete with trans kids, every other kid now wanting pronouns, teaching kids they are gender fluid, white kids told in school they are unfairly rewarded. Basically, they are buying what the Repugs are messaging.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
43. I'm one of them
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

I switched to be able to vote in the GOP primaries in FL, which has closed Primaries. I'm sure I'm not the only one doing that -- Liz Cheney has asked Dems in WY to do so to vote for her in the GOP Primary there.

 

cloudboy07

(351 posts)
28. women out # men - 51.1 % & 330 million people in the U.S. !!
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

dem's have huge lead if we use it to our advantage! plus the youth that are on a roll ! time to gget out of the lazy-boy chair 's get a can of whoop -ass out & use it on the republican Taliban clown show ! No damn reason these jack ass's need to be in congress ?

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
40. Yes thats why I would take this article with a big grain of salt
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jun 2022

Ever since the leak I've been puzzled as to why now. They know how important these particular midterms are to the Dems. A repuke victory at a minimum in the House would virtually cripple any Dem agenda moving forward and give them 2 years to disrupt, stagnate and unleash their BS machine on Biden worse than they currently are.

I don't think one party has held both the house and senate through a full term of a president since LBJ, ending a decades long vice grip the Dems had enjoyed in the legislature. The social progress this country made during that time, from FDR through the 60's is exactly what the repukes have been fighting so hard to reverse for the last 30 years.

I'm just leary of anything these assholes do. Did they get blindsided by an overzealous radical right court flush with overwhelming internal voting power, probably the most one sided in 100 years, gifted unexpectedly by Fat Nixons administration? After all, Alito, Gorsech and Thomas have been waiting on this opportunity for decades. Or did they know of the possibility of a swift decision to happen now and have some other dirty tricks up their sleeves including testing out their new voter suppression tactics in the states?

I don't trust them at all. Even with supposed independence of the judiciary from political influence, they can't be trusted to abide by that. A win for Dems in the midterms potentially could be the nail in the coffin of the repuke party as we know it. Would they risk that?

If they are that stupid then it doesn't say a lot for us letting them get as far as they have. I hope to all that is justice Americans vote these fascists into oblivion come Nov.

AncientOfDays

(163 posts)
31. They want to talk about the economy
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jun 2022

Good luck with that - they don't understand that for women, controlling their reproduction is central to their own economy. Women will see that getting pregnant means losing their jobs - etc.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
32. The decision itself is bad enough, but the language and reasoning behind it put so many off.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

The language says we don't care what you've thought for 40 years. The ones that scream baby killers at us probably love this ruling, but among those that I know hate the word abortion and think there are "too many," are shocked that there was nothing in the language to protect the life of women and leaving it all up to the states including the ones that make no exception for incest or rape. Many think a fetus is a human life, but don't know when it becomes so. I have a dear friend, a moderate Republican, who has thought for years that "too many women use it as their only form of birth control" - a line some RW group started and has gained traction, though I have argued with her that what woman (especially before chemical abortion drugs) would put her body through a surgical procedure on a regular basis just because.

Now I think a lot of people, not just pro choice people are scared because now that the religious right got what they thought they wanted for decades, they aren't sure what they unleashed, especially since this has been a long term goal of the antiabortion movement, they want to know where it ends, but the antiabortion movement teamed with the chaos of the MAGAts, Q and other chaos forces encouraged by the MAGAts have no idea how to control this. That's why they are scared of what this is going to do to the suburban woman voters. They've been feeding this fear, fear, fear drumbeat for years but they're finding out they can't control it. Meanwhile the fear, fear, fear drums are still pounding and in revolutions sometimes the early revolutionaries are often among those trampled by the forces they tried to lead and control.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
34. And it isn't even just about Roe V Wade. The SC delivered a sledge hammer
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jun 2022

wake up call to the masses about where the SC and far right are driving this country. And they picked an issue that is guaranteed to piss off and galvanize people that might nor normally vote in a mid term election. Release the Kraken!

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
35. Unless they take away the rights of women to vote
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jun 2022

I think they're damn asses are in trouble. Women will vote like never before, and we will drive the Republicans out of the government.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
41. Republicans did this...& NOW REPUBLICANS PAY THE PRICE..
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

(Idea of violins playing..taken from original post by : babylonsister


JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
44. It's a long time until November. Some other issue might pop up to split Dem votes.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jun 2022

Guns, war, inflation, plenty of issues can get us arguing amongst ourselves.

we'll have to raise awareness of this issue in October.

Get out the vote.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
48. why are they in a panic
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 09:16 PM
Jun 2022

didn't they pass laws to nullify the vote in some states when they don't like the outcome.

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