This needs to be the scene now at every high school football game.

[momta]

on edit:

or this


(thanks to BlueGreenLady)

[BlueGreenLady]

1. Might want to throw in a few

Hari Krishna's into that mix as well.

[momta]

2. Fine with me

I pray to the Great Spaghetti Monster, so I'll just be sittin' there eating my fusilli.

[Totally Tunsie]

3. The Halftime show...

[momta]

4. Perfect!

[maxsolomon]

5. It's only Christians that want to make a public display of their faith.

Because the Bible gives them a directive to proselytize.

It's coercive, and I'm not in the least surprised that bible-thumping Christians, even Christians on the Supreme Court, can't understand that.

[Totally Tunsie]

6. Really?

There are three examples in this short thread of religions other than Christian making "public display of their faith". (Four, if you count the mention of Hare Krishnas.)

[BlackSkimmer]

8. Well spotted. nt

[maxsolomon]

11. in this context. there are no hare krishna football coaches.

but hey, you got me. i'm a hypocrite or something. congratulations.

[Totally Tunsie]

19. No one is calling you a hypocrite.

It's just that your blanket statements are open to (and easy to) debate:

"...only Christians that want to make a public display..." -- Not true

"...no hare krishna football coaches" -- How do you know?

There are many religions that make public display...Wailing Wall, anyone? And when you speak of proselytizing, have you ever been visited at home by the Mormons and Seventh-Day Adventists?

I wasn't trying to "get you" - just making a correction. Challenging your statement is NOT denigrating you or calling you names.

[maxsolomon]

24. OK. Thanks for the correction.

I'm going to stick by "there are no Hare Krishna football coaches" as a generalization based on probability and anecdotal observation.

[Totally Tunsie]

25. Anything - even a hare krishna football coach - is a possibility

in today's mobile society. I've had bigger surprises! Keep an open mind; you might meet one someday!

Glad we're still DU friends...

[Duncan Grant]

7. Public displays of Christian piety. It's a performance.

None of this has anything to do with Christ’s ministry. It’s just a passive aggressive flex by people with a resentment toward modernity and secular authority. Who needs it?

[rubbersole]

9. Obviously they need it.

Pretty fucking sad for the rest of us...

[Duncan Grant]

12. You can say that again.

One can only bang a tambourine for so long though. At some point, it becomes very annoying.

[BlackSkimmer]

10. Have you ever visited a country where there are (quite loud) calls to prayer on a regular basis?

Because it's a pretty public display.

[Duncan Grant]

13. Yeah - and theirs is a different country, a different culture.

I’m really trying to overcome that giant sucking noise in the modern United States. Mainly faith-based, many points of light, we love everyone (unless we don’t) white heteronormative supremacy. The same noise that says, my belief system has more legitimacy than your facts.

[BlackSkimmer]

16. Well, you seem to have moved the goal post there just a wee bit.

You first said only Christianity feels the need to advertise their piety.

Have you ever seen Hasidic Jews? How about Mennonites or Amish? Pretty public in their displays also.

[Duncan Grant]

21. Implicit agreement that we're talking about current events in the U.S.

You simply didn’t comprehend that. Hope this clarification helps.

When the Amish seek to establish cultural dominance, I’ll give that similar consideration.

[electric_blue68]

27. Actually in a section of Brooklyn where I would shop not that far from my neighborhood there were...

calls to prayer by the Mosque.

[MineralMan]

14. Yes. I lived in Turkey for 15 months while in the USAF.

I was stationed at a small base overlooking the Black Sea. Just down a hill from my barracks room was a mosque, less than 100 yards from my window. So, I heard the calls to prayer quite clearly, five times a day. I quickly got used to them, and they served as a clock I didn't have to look at.

Islam, in Islamic countries, is a very public religion. Very public, indeed.

[BlackSkimmer]

18. Yes, it sure is.

I've heard the calls also. A bit jarring at first, but I got used to it.

Most religions are fairly public in their displays, which is why I find some of the comments here sort of strange. Perhaps some are just unaware?

[MineralMan]

20. Well, unlike many countries, we have a constitution that

includes language regarding the separation of church and state. Not very specific language, but language nevertheless.

The problem is that Christianity is clearly the dominant religion in this country. What that means is that there is a majority that adheres to that religion. That's a problem in a democratic system, since the majority can pass laws. The constitutional language is not specific enough, though, to ensure that displays of religion in government owned places and venues are not allowed. So, there's always a risk that a majority of some kind will push for such displays.

It took a very long time to get specifically religious prayers out of places like schools and government meetings. In fact, that was never 100% achieved. The words "under God" got inserted in our previously non-religious pledge of allegiance that way. That happened in the 1950s. Before then, it was not there. I learned it without the reference to a deity.

We eventually came to understand the first amendment to prohibit the government from having anything to do with religious worship, but the language remains unclear, so we have to fight that battle again and again. Now, we have a SCOTUS that seems ready to allow religious practices within government-sponsored events. We'll have to fight the battle again, it seems.

[BlackSkimmer]

22. I absolutely agree with your points there.

I disagreed with the comments in this thread by posters who were apparently unaware of the public displays of faith by other religions, even in this country.

[MineralMan]

23. Yes, I know. And you were right to do so.

[roamer65]

15. People should start booing.

[Sogo]

17. The next time Kaepernick or anyone else takes a knee,

they should cross themselves as they're doing it....

That'll shut 'em up!

[uponit7771]

26. +1,