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90-percent

(6,829 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:05 PM Jun 2022

Frank Zappa on "the illusion of Democracy"

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”


After last weeks SC rulings, I think America is at the brick wall.

-90% Jimmy

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Frank Zappa on "the illusion of Democracy" (Original Post) 90-percent Jun 2022 OP
Frank Zappa debates What is a Fascist Theocracy blm Jun 2022 #1
I've watched the youtube many times over the years 90-percent Jun 2022 #3
I've been saying this for years... The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2022 #2
Zappa and Carlin were great spokespeople and thinkers. Boomerproud Jun 2022 #4

blm

(113,059 posts)
1. Frank Zappa debates What is a Fascist Theocracy
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:12 PM
Jun 2022

What is a Fascist Theocracy?

"When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun…

Lofton responded: “Well then you are an anarchist. Every form of civil government is based on some kind of morality Frank,” but Zappa set him straight, curtly remarking:
“Morality in terms of behavior, not in terms of theology!”

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
3. I've watched the youtube many times over the years
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jun 2022

But this is the first time I realized Frank said; “Morality in terms of behavior, not in terms of theology!”

Lofton does the Gish Gallop here years before it was cool.

Thanks. You've made me a better Zappa fan>

-90% Jimmy

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,809 posts)
2. I've been saying this for years...
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jun 2022

The puke party has been authoritarian at it's core for generations. A was coming (ans has now arrived, apparently) when events would force it to tear off the mask and show their true nature.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
4. Zappa and Carlin were great spokespeople and thinkers.
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jun 2022

Carlin once said "Just scratch underneath the cynic you'll find a disappointed idealist."

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