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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:52 AM Jun 2022

When Cassidy Hutchinson 1st testified, she was represented by lawyer *paid for* by Trump folk

So this lays out that (as he did in the Russian investigation) 1) Trump was providing lawyers to key witnesses and getting reports back and 2) Trump was pressuring Hutchinson to limit her testimony.

This is a fascinating video for many reasons:
WOW. BIG revelation from
@Alyssafarah
this morning on
@newday
: when Cassidy Hutchinson first privately testified, she was represented by a lawyer *paid for* by folks in Trump world. Then, she decided she wanted to share way more, so she changed lawyers and testified publicly.


EVERY TIME that a reporter gets told that she is being treated like some "Coffee Boy," they should instead repeat these facts: Trump knew her testimony could be sufficiently damaging to pay for her defense.


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When Cassidy Hutchinson 1st testified, she was represented by lawyer *paid for* by Trump folk (Original Post) kpete Jun 2022 OP
Keeping it all in the family....lawyers keep the lies in order. spanone Jun 2022 #1
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #2
Which reminds me of Tiffany, Lars39 Jun 2022 #3
Let her go to work for Daddy, and Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #28
It has been obvious for some time that TFG's house of cards... Hugin Jun 2022 #7
Since we're on the subject of TFG buying insurance... Hugin Jun 2022 #4
good guess. mopinko Jun 2022 #5
Of course, the move itself wouldn't have been done by the gibbon himself... Hugin Jun 2022 #8
remember dr ronnie feelgood getting rewarded w head of the va for lying about his mental exam? mopinko Jun 2022 #9
Yep. Hugin Jun 2022 #10
Ornato left to become deputy CoS for operations Deminpenn Jun 2022 #23
This sounds like it should be illegal even if it is not on the books yet. Maraya1969 Jun 2022 #6
Just putting this out here (from Oct 2021)... ARPad95 Jun 2022 #11
LOL DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #13
And don't bother him with any requirement for Residency to practice medicine either. n/t thenelm1 Jun 2022 #15
It's a small brain. Probably anyone could operate on it. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #12
Right? LoisB Jun 2022 #20
tfg didn't know her but was paying for her lawyer's bills?!? fierywoman Jun 2022 #27
"I put her in touch with Cong. Cheney, she got a new lawyer..." intheflow Jun 2022 #14
?? Don't know how you draw that conclusion. wnylib Jun 2022 #19
It was an ambiguous statement. intheflow Jun 2022 #22
She reached out to Farrah-Griffin Deminpenn Jun 2022 #24
Not odd because we don't know wnylib Jun 2022 #26
Before she testified the news came out that she changed attorneys. CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #16
My totally uninformed guess gratuitous Jun 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #30
Trump may have doled out the money, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #18
A year and a half later, he still has these people under his control. kentuck Jun 2022 #21
I am glad that Cassidy got a real attorney and not a TFG paid for attorney LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #29
Trump's PAC gave $1 million to Meadows' non-profit weeks after House formed January 6 committee IcyPeas Jun 2022 #31
TFG was paying for Cassidy's lawyer and had to get a new attorney to be able to tell the truth LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #32

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
3. Which reminds me of Tiffany,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:11 AM
Jun 2022

now a lawyer? Not having much to do with Trump and siblings until she was in college, going to be a lawyer.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
7. It has been obvious for some time that TFG's house of cards...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:23 AM
Jun 2022

Is built on the flimsy “lawyer client privilege” concept. Maybe he heard it in a movie somewhere.

Ask Michael Cohen about it.

It only works if the lawyer doesn’t also participate in these or other crimes. I think TFG got really sloppy when his sister was a judge.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
4. Since we're on the subject of TFG buying insurance...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:17 AM
Jun 2022

Wasn’t one of the SS agents involved suddenly “promoted” to a position in the Trump campaign?

Was this to buy their silence on the events?

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
8. Of course, the move itself wouldn't have been done by the gibbon himself...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jun 2022

Far too incriminating.

The heavy lifting was most likely done by a member of the perpetual clean-up crew.

It is hard to believe it was done on initiative, though. That’s not how this hive rolls.

mopinko

(70,111 posts)
9. remember dr ronnie feelgood getting rewarded w head of the va for lying about his mental exam?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

thank ja for john tester, but yeah. exactly how they roll.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
10. Yep.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jun 2022

They seem to fall into a couple of categories.

To do them a “favor” which will need to be reciprocated upon demand (some justices come to mind) and to buy their silence.

Same old Quid Pro Quo, though.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
23. Ornato left to become deputy CoS for operations
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jun 2022

He was also a political adviser. He's and was a major Trumper.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
6. This sounds like it should be illegal even if it is not on the books yet.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:23 AM
Jun 2022

It's like Jeffery Epstein paying for the lawyers of everyone around him against the girls he molested. "Conflict of interest" sounds like an appropriate label.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
11. Just putting this out here (from Oct 2021)...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jun 2022
Ron DeSantis says three years of law school is a ‘waste’

The Governor said law school could be done in one year, potentially.

Gov. Ron DeSantis continued his recent tradition of unsolicited critiques of higher education, saying Friday that current three-year law school tracks are a “waste.”

“You don’t need three years for law school,” DeSantis, a Harvard Law product, said in Naples Friday, where he was rolling out a job growth grant award to expand vocational offerings.

“Some of these degrees you see. You know, I went to law school; you don’t need three years for law school,” DeSantis divulged. “I mean, seriously, you don’t. You could do it probably in one. Definitely in two. You don’t need three.”

“It’s a waste,” DeSantis continued. “And there’s other degrees where they make you do more years than you need to. We don’t want them toiling for no reason. Get the skills and go out there and put them to use.”


Full article at this link:

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/465049-ron-desantis-says-three-years-of-law-school-is-a-waste/

Hmmm, you think Ron wants to create an "army' of homegrown incompetent and ignorant lawyers for his fascist goals?

DENVERPOPS

(8,826 posts)
13. LOL
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jun 2022

Good luck passing the State Bar with only one or two years of law school.

AND, Ron, how about YOUR brain surgeon only going a couple of years to complete his neurosurgical degree.?????????

Response to kpete (Original post)

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
14. "I put her in touch with Cong. Cheney, she got a new lawyer..."
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:00 AM
Jun 2022

So is Cheney paying for her lawyer now? Because that would be an ethical clusterf*ck.

wnylib

(21,468 posts)
19. ?? Don't know how you draw that conclusion.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

The reason for putting Hutchinson in touch with Cheney was to let Cheney know that Hutchinson had more that she wanted to say to the committee. I don't know when Hutchinson changed lawyers, whether before or after talking to Cheney. If after, she might have asked for a referral to a lawyer not connected with Trump. Cheney would know some good lawyers outside of the Trump circle.

But that's a far cry from paying for lawyers.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
22. It was an ambiguous statement.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:43 AM
Jun 2022

In the context of talking about Trump paying for Hutchinson's lawyers, someone is quoted saying that they put Hutchinson in touch with Cheney, then Hutchinson got a new lawyer. It is probably as you say (Cheney is a very capable lawyer, as we all see now, who would be unlikely to jeopardize her own investigation), but the phrasing - the order in which it is laid out - sounds like Hutchinson wanted to talk but didn't think to get herself a new lawyer until after she talked to Cheney? Just... weird.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
24. She reached out to Farrah-Griffin
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

and said she had more to say. The inference is that her Trump recommended lawyer kept her from saying more in some way or another. F-G put her in touch with Cheney because Hutchinson said she had more information. Then Hutinson got a new lawyer, one associated with Jeff Sessions, not with Trumpworld.

That would explain the "new information" reason used by the committee for the unscheduled hearing on Tuesday as well.

wnylib

(21,468 posts)
26. Not odd because we don't know
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jun 2022

that it happened that way. Hutchinson might have realized that she needed a change of lawyers in order to give more testimony. She seems like an intelligent enough woman to realize that she was being constrained by Trump lawyers. Likely threatened, too, since threats were mentioned by Cheney at the hearing, albeit without specific names.

If you want to say more but your lawyers discourage you from it because they have your boss's interests ahead of your own, you would not trust their advice. You would want someone that represents your interests. You would seek advice on finding a lawyer for yourself.

CaptainTruth

(6,592 posts)
16. Before she testified the news came out that she changed attorneys.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jun 2022

Some of the "legal folks" I follow on Twitter were talking about it the morning before she testified, with one saying something like "it's never good for the boss when a former staff member switches to their own attorney."

Looks like they were right.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. My totally uninformed guess
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jun 2022

Hutchinson either consulted with someone or figured out for herself that there was a danger to having her legal representation yoked to the former guy. That danger being that everything she talked about with her lawyer was immediately relayed to the former guy's legal team. All the better for the former guy to betray her (and others he had this arrangement with) if the day ever came when the investigators were getting too close to him.

What's best for Hutchinson wasn't and isn't always what's best for the former guy, and as long as her own lawyer was operating in cahoots with the former guy's lawyers, she couldn't trust that she was getting best advice and representation for herself. Change lawyers, testify publicly at a special committee hearing, and the former guy melts down.

Response to gratuitous (Reply #17)

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
18. Trump may have doled out the money,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

but I am betting that domestic oligarchs paid the money into the fund. With Citizens United we don't know who owns our government.

I'm sure the Federalist Society is a part of this.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
21. A year and a half later, he still has these people under his control.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:43 AM
Jun 2022

Scary.

Like a Godfather, he will take care of their legal bills and their families.

Despicable asshole!

IcyPeas

(21,872 posts)
31. Trump's PAC gave $1 million to Meadows' non-profit weeks after House formed January 6 committee
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jun 2022

it's always: Follow the Money.

Trump's political organization also paid tens of thousands of dollars to law firms that represent current and former Trump aides who have fought against subpoenas issued by the House panel probing the January 6 attack.
Recipients include $25,000 to Brand Woodward Law, which has represented Trump aide Dan Scavino, and $29,500 to Abel Bean Law, which represents Trump aide Taylor Budowich.
Save America PAC paid $50,000 to JP Rowley Law PLLC, which represents attorney Cleta Mitchell, who advised Trump on how to attempt to overturn the November 2020 election results.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/politics/trump-pac-mark-meadows-january-6-investigation/index.html
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