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Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:23 AM Jun 2022

President Biden says he would SUPPORT CHANGING THE FILIBUSTER rules for codifying Roe v. Wade

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Kasie Hunt @kasie 1m
President Biden says he would support changing the filibuster rules for codifying Roe v. Wade

Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance 54s
President Biden says he favors doing away with the filibuster to codify privacy rights. Not just Roe's protections for abortion, but the full range of privacy rights including contraception & same sex marriage.

Now he needs majorities in Congress to get it done. Let's go!


Kevin Liptak @Kevinliptakcnn 3m
Biden says he supports a carveout for altering the filibuster for codifying abortion rights

"If the filibuster gets in the way it's like voting rights, it should be -- we provide an exception for this."








https://apnews.com/article/nato-biden-china-madrid-fe9c7fe07122413754d087e61a95a202



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President Biden says he would SUPPORT CHANGING THE FILIBUSTER rules for codifying Roe v. Wade (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2022 OP
That is significant, and Congress needs to do this as soon as possible, before the midterms JohnSJ Jun 2022 #1
We don't have the votes unless we win. Manchin will not vote with us...I think Sinema would Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #5
Let's do this and HAB911 Jun 2022 #2
We have a chance to codify Roe, but start adding more things to it , and Manchin and Sinema won't go JohnSJ Jun 2022 #4
One cautious step at a time HAB911 Jun 2022 #7
I am afraid so. Get Roe codified, then immediately follow threw with SC expansion. At least that JohnSJ Jun 2022 #11
No Republicans are going to vote with us to end the filibuster. The only way is to add more Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #8
Murkowski has already indicated that if there is an exception JUST for codifying Roe, she would go JohnSJ Jun 2022 #12
If nothing else, because Collins was outrightly lied to. AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #19
I think so too. We have to try JohnSJ Jun 2022 #22
The two republican senators that will consider codifying Roe In It to Win It Jun 2022 #10
I don't think Biden is advocating going nuclear. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #16
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Jun 2022 #3
K&R, its ..soooooo damn refreshing to have an adult with a sound mind at the helm right now uponit7771 Jun 2022 #6
Well there it is In It to Win It Jun 2022 #9
Now vote on it, senate. David__77 Jun 2022 #13
kick bigtree Jun 2022 #14
Thank you, AOC! Blecht Jun 2022 #15
fair bigtree Jun 2022 #17
Sounds to me like this is the Emancipation Proclamation AOC was urging in2herbs Jun 2022 #26
YES. AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #18
It's great that Biden is supportive of this. PTWB Jun 2022 #20
We need James48 Jun 2022 #21
Women's rights and voting rights should be free of the filibuster. patphil Jun 2022 #23
That wouldn't be reaching across the isle. nt Hotler Jun 2022 #24
This is an incredibly high-risk move Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #25
No, the assumption is that the GOP will not hesitate to ditch the filibuster Blaukraut Jun 2022 #27
Exactly. BlueKentuckyGirl Jun 2022 #36
at least those who say the Dems have no spine treestar Jun 2022 #28
I'd happily trade a million "I told you so's" Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #34
if we dont act now we will never be in a position to act again drray23 Jun 2022 #31
IMO, here's what the filibuster does: Salviati Jun 2022 #32
We need a few more Democratic Senators JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #29
we should passionately talk about expanding the supreme court to overwhelm their corruption samsingh Jun 2022 #30
I thought that was a given DLCWIdem Jun 2022 #33
Filibuster BlueKentuckyGirl Jun 2022 #35
💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 live love laugh Jun 2022 #37

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
5. We don't have the votes unless we win. Manchin will not vote with us...I think Sinema would
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jun 2022

ut Manchin will not...we need more votes...we can only do this if we add Senators and hold the House

JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
4. We have a chance to codify Roe, but start adding more things to it , and Manchin and Sinema won't go
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jun 2022

for it. We have a chance for Roe, and that is what the focus needs to be, because it is highly unlikely that Manchin and Sinema will go for expansion of the SC, and there is a good chance a couple of republican Senators will go for Codifying Roe, even if Manchin and Sinema go for it, but zero chance any republican will go for expansion of the SC



JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
11. I am afraid so. Get Roe codified, then immediately follow threw with SC expansion. At least that
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

is how I think we have a chance to get things going.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
8. No Republicans are going to vote with us to end the filibuster. The only way is to add more
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:30 AM
Jun 2022

Senator and hold the House.

JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
12. Murkowski has already indicated that if there is an exception JUST for codifying Roe, she would go
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:35 AM
Jun 2022

for that. That is not eliminating the filibuster for every thing else.

I think Collins just might also

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
9. Well there it is
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:30 AM
Jun 2022

I think he should have let the senators lead the charge on this question but fuck it. It’s out there now! Full steam ahead!

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
20. It's great that Biden is supportive of this.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:19 AM
Jun 2022

But we still have Democrats in the senate on record saying they don’t support removing the filibuster. That means we don’t have the votes to remove it. And if we don’t pickup seats in November we won’t have the votes for the next two years, either.

That’s just one reason why the mid terms are so critical this year.

patphil

(6,180 posts)
23. Women's rights and voting rights should be free of the filibuster.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

Actually, I'd like to bury that idiotic, undemocratic part of Senate procedure under a few tons of fecal matter of the Bullshit persuasion.
Never to be seen or heard from again!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
25. This is an incredibly high-risk move
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jun 2022

that could really bite us in the ass one day.

A GOP dominated Senate that was unconstrained by a filibuster could make abortion illegal nationwide, end marriage equality, and engage in all sorts of dumbfuckery.

Is no one considering the downside here? Is the assumption that we will never lose the Senate?

I dunno man.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
27. No, the assumption is that the GOP will not hesitate to ditch the filibuster
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jun 2022

And we need to beat them to it.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(402 posts)
36. Exactly.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

You are exactly right. The first thing Mitch McConnell will do is end the filibuster, simply so he CAN end access to abortion everywhere, even in the places it is still available.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
31. if we dont act now we will never be in a position to act again
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:40 AM
Jun 2022

The GOP will consolidate their hold on all three branches of government and with assist from the supreme court dismantle everything including voting rights ensuring a permanent GOP dictatorship.
This is no "keeping your power dry", its an existential threat to our country and democracy.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
32. IMO, here's what the filibuster does:
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jun 2022

It prevents the Democrats from passing legislation that enjoys broad popular support, furthering the narrative that "The Democrats don't do anything when they get elected into office" It also protects republicans from having to vote against said popular legislation

It prevents Republicans from passing unpopular legislation, like nationwide abortion bans, things that while wildly popular among their base would result in severe pushback from the general public. Most of the things that the republican elite want isn't subject to the filibuster anyway: Tax cuts, budget issues, judicial appointments. This allows them to keep campaigning on the 'culture war' issues, without ever having to deliver, or suffer blowback for the unpopular nature of these stances.

In the long run, I think that eliminating the filibuster is a win/win move for Democrats, and lose/lose for the current christofacist embodiment of the republican party.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
29. We need a few more Democratic Senators
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

Come November, and we can get it done.

Sinema and Manchin will NEVER vote for ending the Jim Crow Filibuster.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
33. I thought that was a given
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:05 PM
Jun 2022

As he said Roe was on the boat. But it is great to be codified and explicitly stated

BlueKentuckyGirl

(402 posts)
35. Filibuster
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jun 2022

Yes, this needs to be done now! Manchin and Sinema could have prevented this whole anti-choice mess by voting to get rid of the filibuster, but they didn't. You can just bet that if Roe v Wade isn't codified now, the blue states where abortion is still protected won't be if the Democrats lose the Senate. The first thing Mitch McConnell will do is end the filibuster and abortion will be made illegal in EVERY state.

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