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Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:08 PM Jun 2022

The only way we're going to beat the Supreme Court at its own game, is to

convince the Right that some of these laws are going to also take their rights away. i.e. Conservative women who are affected by stillbirths are not immune to what, medically, could go wrong. Or, prisoners who felt railroaded by an incompetent lawyer will get a wake up call. All under the rule of unintended consequences.

Bottomline, remember those testimonials that conservatives ran before every campaign, and it involved actors, not real victims? Well, do the same but be honest about the reenactments.

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The only way we're going to beat the Supreme Court at its own game, is to (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
They're creating the America of their dreams BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #1
It will matter when these middle class to poor Republicans realize that Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #7
I guess I'd be more inclined to believe that BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #20
True. Except that death has a way of cutting back on human introspection. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #22
This is how Thurgood Marshall and RBG got civil rights for POC and women. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #2
Exactly. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #8
they don't care if they fuck over their own people rurallib Jun 2022 #3
I believe this is 90% of republicanism. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #4
That is how Thomas thinks. LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #13
Agreed Novara Jun 2022 #21
As another rural lib, I agree. Drumpsters around me will flat-out shoot their best hunting dog if allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #26
Who do you plan to convince? relayerbob Jun 2022 #5
It's going to be a slow process. Awareness will come one voter at a time, Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #10
The Only Way We're Going To Beat THem Me. Jun 2022 #6
This Supreme Court is a nightmare! Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #11
Which...Is THe Most Rotten? Me. Jun 2022 #16
I think the more I hear about them, it really comes down to what scandal Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #23
I actually think..... FarPoint Jun 2022 #9
That would work. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #12
me too... FarPoint Jun 2022 #15
We have a fair chance at holding the Senate, the House outlook is very grim Amishman Jun 2022 #18
They need to be hounded to the point of exhaustion and LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #14
prosecuting Ginni Thomas might help. nt Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #17
Well, it certainly would give us some relief knowing she isn't pulling any strings. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #24
I agree with your point. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #25
The only way to beat them is to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE for legislators that.... LAS14 Jun 2022 #19

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
1. They're creating the America of their dreams
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jun 2022

I’m not sure why anyone thinks they care what people think about it. Democrats or Fascists.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
7. It will matter when these middle class to poor Republicans realize that
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jun 2022

their mothers, daughters, sisters are dying for things that had medical remedies back when Democrats were in control; or the main bread winner of the household was railroaded with a poor lawyer, by a vengeful neighbor who has local connections.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
20. I guess I'd be more inclined to believe that
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jun 2022

Had so many not gone proudly to their early graves to “own the libs” during the worst of the Covid death waves

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
8. Exactly.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

We don't have the attention of the Right's support, because we have managed to defend some of the safety nets. But, those nets are coming down and people are going to go splat.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
3. they don't care if they fuck over their own people
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jun 2022

in the process of fucking over liberals. They do not give a shit about their own people.

And their base is Ok with it as long as the liberals get screwed over.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
21. Agreed
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jun 2022

Bad stuff only happens to other people. They feel that they are insulated. They don't give a shit.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
26. As another rural lib, I agree. Drumpsters around me will flat-out shoot their best hunting dog if
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jun 2022

the dog barked and annoyed them. A) they have reptilian brains that react only to hunger, sex, and anger; B) they have chips on their shoulders the size of Texas -- they were shafted from childhood, through school, and the workplace; they blame "elites" -- teachers and bosses, as well as minorities, for their woes. They revel in rolling in their resentment, which was played like a piano concerto by TFG. Totally lacking in empathy, if their daughter comes up preggers...well it's just another way THEY (not the daughter) got screwed by the elitist lefties.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
5. Who do you plan to convince?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jun 2022

The GQP leadership is thrilled with this, and the SCOTUS have lifetime appointments. The rank and file are hear only what they want to hear, are too stupid to know the difference and are thrilled to be "owning the libs".

We need to convince the MIDDLE that the right is their enemy.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
10. It's going to be a slow process. Awareness will come one voter at a time,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jun 2022

as family disasters become more prevalent. Only then will some of them see a wake-up call.

By the way, my mother would call these things that throw a family off course from a good, normal life, a desgracia. Essentially, a life altering personal misfortune. She was incredibly paranoid, and sometimes unpleasant to live with, because she was always on guard to make sure we didn't do anything that would lead us down the road to such an event horizon. Which was a constant nightmare for her, since growing up during the sixties, American life was a Pied Piper.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. The Only Way We're Going To Beat THem
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

is to vote in lots more Dems, pass laws they can't touch and then make a law/s regarding the ethics they should be held to. Gorsuch should've recused himself on the EPA ruling. And, think about removing some for lying under oath, a long shot I grant you but to be considered.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
16. Which...Is THe Most Rotten?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

I mean, think about these sad sack losers who have power for damage and destruction in their hands right now.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
23. I think the more I hear about them, it really comes down to what scandal
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jun 2022

they created that day for us, that decides who is the worst.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
9. I actually think.....
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jun 2022

Democrats win the midterms/ House/ Senate...then, we will increase the Supreme Court members to a total of 11 Justices within a year of the midterm win.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
12. That would work.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

I saw Kentaji Brown Jackson's swearing in, and I was screaming at the t.v. "May you be the first of a new wave in the Supreme Court!"

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
18. We have a fair chance at holding the Senate, the House outlook is very grim
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

We've lost a million voters, mostly suburban, in defection to the Republicans
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats

Winning deep blue urban districts by 90% instead of 70% doesn't help if the suburbs start going red again.

538 launched their statistical model for midterms, and their data analysis has the pubs very likely to take the house.

Betting markets are also heavily favoring the Pubs taking the house. PredictIt has us at about a 15% chance - up from 10% before the Dobbs decision.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
24. Well, it certainly would give us some relief knowing she isn't pulling any strings.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jun 2022

And let's be clear about this. The only reason she has such a high profile among the co-conspirators, is because her husband is on the Supreme Court. That's why I won't let up on the belief that what we're seeing from the conservative Supreme Court is part of the same conspiracy.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
25. I agree with your point.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jun 2022

Ginni/Scotus mess is part of the coup attempt.

And look now how SCOTUS announcements have been timed to seize the news narrative away from J6.

It's Ginni's court now, not Roberts'

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
19. The only way to beat them is to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE for legislators that....
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jun 2022

.... represent the majority of Americans. It will take years, but we need to take back the court.

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