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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOUCH! Has anybody noticed how much Andrea Mitchell is flailing?
Just watched her stumble and grope all the way through a couple of segments. Addled. Searching for words. Stumbling all over points that shes trying to make. When I was still working, we called it fumfering the copy (blowing the lines). She couldnt get a smooth adlib out to save her neck. Just stumbled all over it.
All I could think of, while she wandered around, lost in almost-total verbal confusion, was: time to hang it up, honey. Retire while you can still do it gracefully!
bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)calimary
(81,298 posts)Just stumbling all over her lines. All over the place. SHEESH!
I kept mumbling make your point and get ON WITH IT, girlfriend! ENOUGH with the verbal over-decorating!!!!!
Samrob
(4,298 posts)She is fumbling words because she really does not exactly how to spin on their behalf without exposing her spin. Maybe she should go on over to FOX?
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)She is a lying sack of shit in my humble opinion.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)calimary
(81,298 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)She knows no other way...shut her off years ago..I call her last word snarky...
brush
(53,782 posts)Wonder who at NBC she's got kompromat on because she should've been gone.
calimary
(81,298 posts)who engineered one helluva contract for her.
Anymore, I feel like I need an ear-cleaning treatment. Her adlibs are like an endless chain of Gordian Knots!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot
Novara
(5,842 posts)I had a medical procedure yesterday morning and took the rest of the day off so I watched her for the first time in ages. The last time I watched her I noticed that she does fine when reading the news but she can't ad lib to save her life. It's way worse now. There seems to not be one single follow-up question she can get out without stumbling all over her words. At times she seems lost how to express a thought. I cringe for her. It's way past time she be put out of our misery. Take her off the air. Please.
calimary
(81,298 posts)agingdem
(7,850 posts)her questions are non sensical and never ending... I'm 74 and I knew when it was time to get of the stage..someone needs to retire her now...
Novara
(5,842 posts)It's like when Willie Mays played too long in his career. Painful.
People like Buster Posey know that hanging them up when you're at the top of your game leaves a much better legacy that hanging on too long and making an embarrassment of yourself.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)She carried water for Trump and Bush 2.
She doesn't get my ears or eyes.
Stinky The Clown
(67,807 posts)I am, however, not opposed to canning someone who is unable to do their job.
She should be told she's lost it. Assuming she hasn't been.
But then it is up to her. If her contract allows her to keep working based on her decision not much can be done.
I am still working but slowing down to part time. Mostly mentoring these days.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)calimary
(81,298 posts)she was known and referred to as Andrea oh but her emails Mitchell.
It got to the point where I started to suspect a deep jealousy rearing its ugly head in DEEP resentment of Hillary Clinton. I was in a similar situation in a much different arena when I was still working. There were women I worked with who resented me for no other reason than because I had some job they thought they should have had, but Id gotten there first. There were a couple who actively tried to screw me over because of it. I still carry the scars of knife wounds in the back.
Youd have thought that, when women finally started making inroads on the air (mid-70s to early 80s), wed all be celebrating each other and pulling for each other and sharing that sense of historic accomplishment together as a united front. For the movement kind of thing. HAH! Fat chance! It was often more like every woman for herself. Some of em could stab you in the back and youd never even feel it - until too late.
It was really disappointing and discouraging! I thought it wasnt supposed to be that way, because sisterhood and all that. SHEESH was I wrong.
I found that the worst and sneakiest saboteurs (at least who I encountered or tried to work with) were inevitably female. No guy ever reacted or treated me that way.
GenThePerservering
(1,824 posts)you aren't a guy. They'll stab each other in the back just fine - I've seen it often enough. They're not as threatened by women.
Edit for fat fingeritis.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)SheilaAnn
(9,708 posts)doubt she'll be doing that again." I don't know whether it was in regard to voting for President Biden but that was my take. Did anyone else hear it? I wasn't really paying attention to Andrea but I thought I heard that.
yorkster
(1,497 posts)She pretty much said to Yamiche that she needn't have asked Hillary if she'd run again, because of course she wouldn't, which she, Andrea, knew from her in-depth coverage of the HRC campaigns. It came across as a put down of both Yamiche and Hillary, with the usual smarmy delivery.
SheilaAnn
(9,708 posts)herself through it.
Laffy Kat
(16,382 posts)I get too embarrassed to watch her.
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)causing that. Ive been on 2 meds that did that. I was searching for words I normally use. When I reread the documentation I did for work. I was horrified.
Topamax used for migraines and seizures is a big culprit. There is a reason that Topamax nickname is Dope-A-max.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Agree time to replace her.
LuckyCharms
(17,441 posts)Bluesaph
(703 posts)I have horrible brain fog at times and cant get an argument out to save my life.
I used to be quite sharp and quick on my feet.
Never liked AM and wish her no Ill will. But she needs to retire now. The anxiety caused by the loss of your abilities worsens things.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Like the studio films designed to garner Oscars nominations that no one watches.
calimary
(81,298 posts)She really should retire NOW. Before the wrong impression starts to set in permanently with the viewers.
With her long and, yes, distinguished career, youd think shed want to quit while shes ahead, with that career being what everybody remembers, and not her increasingly glaring decline.
Now, it looks pretty obvious that shes only in it for the face time.
tavernier
(12,389 posts)Shes pissed off that the hearing is not going her way and that her pals might be exposed.
NewHendoLib
(60,014 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)But I think she has always had that searching for words style.
But maybe it has gotten a bit worse. She is trying to be clever by always having zingers, but sometimes while she is mentally trying to create the zinger, she appears to be fumbling. So the whole thing fails.
It isnt a good look. And I discount her when she is on.
calimary
(81,298 posts)The verbal stumbling around, wandering in dome rhetorical wilderness, almost blindly groping for the words she was attempting to use, and points she was trying to make, is much more glaring. Particularly this week.
Sometimes it looked painfully clear that she was lost in that rhetorical wilderness. Cluttering up the commentary with extra angles and asides that clouded up whatever main point she was trying to make. Like hiring a window-washing crew of 50 when all you needed was a spritz of Windex and a couple of tissues on the bathroom mirror.
By the time she got to the point she was trying to make, the whole point had been lost and long forgotten. The headline was lost in a sea of sidebars that just confused the issue and anybody trying to listen to it.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Commentary and reporting.
Must be she has a contract that means she can be awful and still keep her job. Maddening because we pay cable bills and get crap.
ultralite001
(894 posts)That is all...
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Plenty of good tennis on.
oregonjen
(3,338 posts)The phrasing shes past her sell by date is ageist and I dont like it. Its clear she is having problems finding words on air and that is an issue considering that is her job, to communicate with her audience. I hope MSNBC addresses the issue with her. Its uncomfortable to watch and makes me sad.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)which is why I don't....
calimary
(81,298 posts)They need to gently ease her off the air before her reputation becomes permanently tarnished. Shes been a role model for multitudes of women - for probably a couple of generations. And thats how she deserves to be remembered. NOT as a former great who stayed too long at the fair and didnt know when to go home.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)I actually agree with the others who are saying it is likely that she cannot find a credible way to spin the information.
If you saw the clip of Brett Bier (sp?) on Fox with "Sandra". Where they toss to her after talking about how devastating Cassidy's testimony was and Sandra takes several seconds to answer, to the extent that the other guy on the screen was saying, "Sandra, are you still with us?"
Mitchell has always been at very least, a libertarian. She is married to Alan Greenspan for goodness sake. She has always had a way to spin information to the "Bad for Democrats" angle. The January 6th hearings however, have been masterful in their presentation. She can't be like Hannity or Carlson on Fox, who simply ignore, or straight up lie. There is some expectation on MSNBC that the hosts be somewhat credible. She just can't get the angle on how to spin it as bad for Democrats.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Not trying to be ageist, but it happens to a lot of people.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)I think she has more issues going on than her age.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)she comes on during breaks and before and after the hearings. It's almost like she doesn't really understand what she is reporting on, she's missing the point. Usually a guest brings her back as Tur has done in what I've seen.
Someone needs to tell her retirement is great.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Mailing it in. Either intentionally or not doesn't really matter at this point.
Emile
(22,771 posts)but some people I guess it gives them a feeling of importance.
calimary
(81,298 posts)and the ego in her probably is desperate to maintain that exposure - especially as she ages, surrounded by equally (if not MORE) capable and more photogenic younger women.
I could imagine myself becoming increasingly panicked in that situation, looking at the younger and hungrier competition. She looks like shes had work done especially in and around the mouth area, but not her neck. If youre on camera every day, and you want to remain competitive, thats one of the things women have to deal with, unfortunately.
But its not her physical age that bothers me. Hell, Im no spring chicken either! But its her presentation. Her increasingly choppy, shaky delivery, the lines she blows, the points she no longer seems able to make succinctly, even almost getting lost while trying to find her way to whatever observation or comment shes trying to reach. Its becoming a distraction.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)Don't force her to eat cat food
orleans
(34,053 posts)(i forget what show)
saw her hem and hawing, and ummimg and stumbling & thought: fuck you--fuck this shit. click. she was gone.
she was having a major problem with her thoughts & words & this dem (moi) wasn't interested in watching her make an ass of herself as she struggled to say some crappy shit about democrats.