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calimary

(81,298 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:01 PM Jun 2022

OUCH! Has anybody noticed how much Andrea Mitchell is flailing?

Just watched her stumble and grope all the way through a couple of segments. Addled. Searching for words. Stumbling all over points that she’s trying to make. When I was still working, we called it “fumfering the copy” (blowing the lines). She couldn’t get a smooth adlib out to save her neck. Just stumbled all over it.

All I could think of, while she wandered around, lost in almost-total verbal confusion, was: “time to hang it up, honey. Retire while you can still do it gracefully!”

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OUCH! Has anybody noticed how much Andrea Mitchell is flailing? (Original Post) calimary Jun 2022 OP
She is lost. Time to move on bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #1
Lordy, was she lost! calimary Jun 2022 #6
She is not lost. She is upset. Upset that her GOP pals are being exposed for their crimes. Samrob Jun 2022 #28
The only reason I haven't noticed is that I don't watch her. BigDemVoter Jun 2022 #2
Ditto Beakybird Jun 2022 #3
Indeed! calimary Jun 2022 #9
Someone must have given her a list of words she cannot use..they took her "SNARK"... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2022 #4
Yeah, she's way past her "sell by" date. brush Jun 2022 #5
Either that or she's got a damn good agent calimary Jun 2022 #11
OMG yes Novara Jun 2022 #7
... and put her out of OUR misery, definitely! calimary Jun 2022 #10
monotonal and reaching for words agingdem Jun 2022 #17
She used to be really good but this is painful Novara Jun 2022 #21
I never watch her JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #8
As a person of a certain age myownself, I am opposed to forced retirement. Stinky The Clown Jun 2022 #12
Emails has been on the wrong side of stumbling since 2016. sarcasmo Jun 2022 #13
That one got so bad that, around our house, calimary Jun 2022 #31
That's because GenThePerservering Jun 2022 #39
Same here, she will forever be known as, Emails. sarcasmo Jul 2022 #45
At the end of one of her segments after a piece on Hillary Clinton, Andrea made a snide remark "I SheilaAnn Jun 2022 #14
I heard it. She was speaking to Yamiche Alcindor. yorkster Jun 2022 #38
Oh yes, smarmy is the word. I kind of would like Hillary to run again but doubt she would put SheilaAnn Jun 2022 #40
I have been emailing MSNBC for several years now to have her retired. Laffy Kat Jun 2022 #15
Yes, there seems to be a steep decline. I'm wondering if she is on meds tulipsandroses Jun 2022 #16
I'm sure she feels the pressure to retire which makes it worse for her. FloridaBlues Jun 2022 #18
Yes. I've never liked her much, but I feel bad for her. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #19
It could be beginning dementia Bluesaph Jun 2022 #20
She is a "prestige" hire. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #22
And if she wants to keep being regarded in that way, calimary Jun 2022 #33
She's not confused. tavernier Jun 2022 #23
Who??? NewHendoLib Jun 2022 #24
I don't watch her very often. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #25
It's definitely gotten worse. Noticeably so. calimary Jun 2022 #32
Useless. When we need sharp, expert Karma13612 Jun 2022 #42
Andrea Mitchell is way past her sell-by date... ultralite001 Jun 2022 #26
Unwatchable. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2022 #27
Yes and it makes me uncomfortable to watch her oregonjen Jun 2022 #29
I agree. It's very uncomfortable to watch her, Sogo Jun 2022 #30
Tremendously uncomfortable to watch. calimary Jun 2022 #34
Well, I don't think that it has anything to do with her age. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #36
She's ancient budkin Jun 2022 #35
she is 75 Skittles Jun 2022 #41
Andrea is 75?????? Wow!!! Eom Karma13612 Jun 2022 #43
she has been awful, I don't watch her but have as she does the J6 hearings Hamlette Jun 2022 #37
she's checked out jcgoldie Jun 2022 #44
Why is she afraid to retire? It was a lifetime goal for me to stop being a wage slave, Emile Jul 2022 #46
If she retires, she loses her platform - the one with the network TV cameras calimary Jul 2022 #47
She needs the money to supplement her meager retirement income dalton99a Jul 2022 #48
came across her on the tv the other day orleans Jul 2022 #49

calimary

(81,298 posts)
6. Lordy, was she lost!
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022

Just stumbling all over her lines. All over the place. SHEESH!

I kept mumbling “make your point and get ON WITH IT, girlfriend! ENOUGH with the verbal over-decorating!!!!!”

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
28. She is not lost. She is upset. Upset that her GOP pals are being exposed for their crimes.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jun 2022

She is fumbling words because she really does not exactly how to spin on their behalf without exposing her spin. Maybe she should go on over to FOX?

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
2. The only reason I haven't noticed is that I don't watch her.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jun 2022

She is a lying sack of shit in my humble opinion.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. Someone must have given her a list of words she cannot use..they took her "SNARK"...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jun 2022

She knows no other way...shut her off years ago..I call her last word snarky...

brush

(53,782 posts)
5. Yeah, she's way past her "sell by" date.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jun 2022

Wonder who at NBC she's got kompromat on because she should've been gone.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
11. Either that or she's got a damn good agent
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

who engineered one helluva contract for her.

Anymore, I feel like I need an ear-cleaning treatment. Her adlibs are like an endless chain of Gordian Knots!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

Novara

(5,842 posts)
7. OMG yes
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

I had a medical procedure yesterday morning and took the rest of the day off so I watched her for the first time in ages. The last time I watched her I noticed that she does fine when reading the news but she can't ad lib to save her life. It's way worse now. There seems to not be one single follow-up question she can get out without stumbling all over her words. At times she seems lost how to express a thought. I cringe for her. It's way past time she be put out of our misery. Take her off the air. Please.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
17. monotonal and reaching for words
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jun 2022

her questions are non sensical and never ending... I'm 74 and I knew when it was time to get of the stage..someone needs to retire her now...

Novara

(5,842 posts)
21. She used to be really good but this is painful
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

It's like when Willie Mays played too long in his career. Painful.

People like Buster Posey know that hanging them up when you're at the top of your game leaves a much better legacy that hanging on too long and making an embarrassment of yourself.

Stinky The Clown

(67,807 posts)
12. As a person of a certain age myownself, I am opposed to forced retirement.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

I am, however, not opposed to canning someone who is unable to do their job.

She should be told she's lost it. Assuming she hasn't been.

But then it is up to her. If her contract allows her to keep working based on her decision not much can be done.


I am still working but slowing down to part time. Mostly mentoring these days.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
31. That one got so bad that, around our house,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jun 2022

she was known and referred to as Andrea “oh but her emails” Mitchell.

It got to the point where I started to suspect a deep jealousy rearing its ugly head in DEEP resentment of Hillary Clinton. I was in a similar situation in a much different arena when I was still working. There were women I worked with who resented me for no other reason than because I had some job they thought they should have had, but I’d gotten there first. There were a couple who actively tried to screw me over because of it. I still carry the scars of “knife wounds in the back”.

You’d have thought that, when women finally started making inroads on the air (mid-70s to early 80s), we’d all be celebrating each other and pulling for each other and sharing that sense of historic accomplishment together as a united front. “For the movement” kind of thing. HAH! Fat chance! It was often more like “every woman for herself.” Some of ‘em could stab you in the back and you’d never even feel it - until too late.

It was really disappointing and discouraging! I thought it wasn’t supposed to be that way, because “sisterhood” and all that. SHEESH was I wrong.

I found that the worst and sneakiest saboteurs (at least who I encountered or tried to work with) were inevitably female. No guy ever reacted or treated me that way.

GenThePerservering

(1,824 posts)
39. That's because
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jun 2022

you aren't a guy. They'll stab each other in the back just fine - I've seen it often enough. They're not as threatened by women.

Edit for fat fingeritis.

SheilaAnn

(9,708 posts)
14. At the end of one of her segments after a piece on Hillary Clinton, Andrea made a snide remark "I
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jun 2022

doubt she'll be doing that again." I don't know whether it was in regard to voting for President Biden but that was my take. Did anyone else hear it? I wasn't really paying attention to Andrea but I thought I heard that.

yorkster

(1,497 posts)
38. I heard it. She was speaking to Yamiche Alcindor.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jun 2022

She pretty much said to Yamiche that she needn't have asked Hillary if she'd run again, because of course she wouldn't, which she, Andrea, knew from her in-depth coverage of the HRC campaigns. It came across as a put down of both Yamiche and Hillary, with the usual smarmy delivery.

SheilaAnn

(9,708 posts)
40. Oh yes, smarmy is the word. I kind of would like Hillary to run again but doubt she would put
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jun 2022

herself through it.

Laffy Kat

(16,382 posts)
15. I have been emailing MSNBC for several years now to have her retired.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jun 2022

I get too embarrassed to watch her.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
16. Yes, there seems to be a steep decline. I'm wondering if she is on meds
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jun 2022

causing that. I’ve been on 2 meds that did that. I was searching for words I normally use. When I reread the documentation I did for work. I was horrified.
Topamax used for migraines and seizures is a big culprit. There is a reason that Topamax’ nickname is Dope-A-max.

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
20. It could be beginning dementia
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jun 2022

I have horrible brain fog at times and can’t get an argument out to save my life.

I used to be quite sharp and quick on my feet.

Never liked AM and wish her no I’ll will. But she needs to retire now. The anxiety caused by the loss of your abilities worsens things.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
22. She is a "prestige" hire.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

Like the studio films designed to garner Oscars nominations that no one watches.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
33. And if she wants to keep being regarded in that way,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jun 2022

She really should retire NOW. Before the wrong impression starts to set in permanently with the viewers.

With her long and, yes, distinguished career, you’d think she’d want to quit while she’s ahead, with that career being what everybody remembers, and not her increasingly glaring decline.

Now, it looks pretty obvious that she’s only in it for the face time.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
23. She's not confused.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

She’s pissed off that the hearing is not going her way and that her pals might be exposed.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
25. I don't watch her very often.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:10 PM
Jun 2022

But I think she has always had that “searching for words” style.

But maybe it has gotten a bit worse. She is trying to be clever by always having zingers, but sometimes while she is mentally trying to create the zinger, she appears to be fumbling. So the whole thing fails.

It isn’t a good look. And I discount her when she is on.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
32. It's definitely gotten worse. Noticeably so.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:07 PM
Jun 2022

The verbal stumbling around, wandering in dome rhetorical wilderness, almost blindly groping for the words she was attempting to use, and points she was trying to make, is much more glaring. Particularly this week.

Sometimes it looked painfully clear that she was lost in that rhetorical wilderness. Cluttering up the commentary with extra angles and asides that clouded up whatever main point she was trying to make. Like hiring a window-washing crew of 50 when all you needed was a spritz of Windex and a couple of tissues on the bathroom mirror.

By the time she got to the point she was trying to make, the whole point had been lost and long forgotten. The headline was lost in a sea of sidebars that just confused the issue and anybody trying to listen to it.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
42. Useless. When we need sharp, expert
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:42 PM
Jun 2022

Commentary and reporting.

Must be she has a contract that means she can be awful and still keep her job. Maddening because we pay cable bills and get crap.

oregonjen

(3,338 posts)
29. Yes and it makes me uncomfortable to watch her
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jun 2022

The phrasing she’s past her sell by date is ageist and I don’t like it. It’s clear she is having problems finding words on air and that is an issue considering that is her job, to communicate with her audience. I hope MSNBC addresses the issue with her. It’s uncomfortable to watch and makes me sad.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
34. Tremendously uncomfortable to watch.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jun 2022

They need to gently ease her off the air before her reputation becomes permanently tarnished. She’s been a role model for multitudes of women - for probably a couple of generations. And that’s how she deserves to be remembered. NOT as a “former great” who stayed too long at the fair and didn’t know when to go home.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
36. Well, I don't think that it has anything to do with her age.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

I actually agree with the others who are saying it is likely that she cannot find a credible way to spin the information.

If you saw the clip of Brett Bier (sp?) on Fox with "Sandra". Where they toss to her after talking about how devastating Cassidy's testimony was and Sandra takes several seconds to answer, to the extent that the other guy on the screen was saying, "Sandra, are you still with us?"

Mitchell has always been at very least, a libertarian. She is married to Alan Greenspan for goodness sake. She has always had a way to spin information to the "Bad for Democrats" angle. The January 6th hearings however, have been masterful in their presentation. She can't be like Hannity or Carlson on Fox, who simply ignore, or straight up lie. There is some expectation on MSNBC that the hosts be somewhat credible. She just can't get the angle on how to spin it as bad for Democrats.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
37. she has been awful, I don't watch her but have as she does the J6 hearings
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 04:34 PM
Jun 2022

she comes on during breaks and before and after the hearings. It's almost like she doesn't really understand what she is reporting on, she's missing the point. Usually a guest brings her back as Tur has done in what I've seen.

Someone needs to tell her retirement is great.

Emile

(22,771 posts)
46. Why is she afraid to retire? It was a lifetime goal for me to stop being a wage slave,
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:15 PM
Jul 2022

but some people I guess it gives them a feeling of importance.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
47. If she retires, she loses her platform - the one with the network TV cameras
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:26 AM
Jul 2022

and the ego in her probably is desperate to maintain that exposure - especially as she ages, surrounded by equally (if not MORE) capable and more photogenic younger women.

I could imagine myself becoming increasingly panicked in that situation, looking at the younger and hungrier competition. She looks like she’s “had work done” especially in and around the mouth area, but not her neck. If you’re on camera every day, and you want to remain competitive, that’s one of the things women have to deal with, unfortunately.

But it’s not her physical age that bothers me. Hell, I’m no spring chicken either! But it’s her presentation. Her increasingly choppy, shaky delivery, the lines she blows, the points she no longer seems able to make succinctly, even almost getting lost while trying to find her way to whatever observation or comment she’s trying to reach. It’s becoming a distraction.

orleans

(34,053 posts)
49. came across her on the tv the other day
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:56 AM
Jul 2022

(i forget what show)

saw her hem and hawing, and ummimg and stumbling & thought: fuck you--fuck this shit. click. she was gone.

she was having a major problem with her thoughts & words & this dem (moi) wasn't interested in watching her make an ass of herself as she struggled to say some crappy shit about democrats.

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