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One of the highest positions in the government of the United States has an Associate of Arts degree. I had to look this up since his behavior does not fit the description of an educated man. I was wondering why he was willing to go down with the Tugboat. Hes undereducated for the position, unqualified for his office, apparently unable to manage higher level thinking. On our worst day, he sat like a teenager staring into his phone, waiting to hear from his friend Gym Jordan who, apparently, was in on this coup plan.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Not a deep thinker and definitely not able to handle a crisis.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,538 posts)that it will be Meadows and Ghoulani, in the end, that will turn on the orange fool. Watch this space as the saying goes.
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)The game of chess requires a lot of critical thinking. Maybe education of our kids should include the teaching of chess as part of their class instruction as a work around.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)The "arts" may refer to graduating from a liberal arts school. You can get "bachelor of arts" in history, or psychology, or biology, among other degrees. My guess is Meadow's degree that it has nothing to do with Picasso or Rembrandt. If it's an associates degree, my guess is he had completed the basic liberal arts requirements at his school, but maybe didn't have a major focus (as most people that graduate with a bachelors degree do).
You would think that someone interested in Politics would major in Poli Sci or philosophy, but maybe they couldn't deal with being failed or downgraded for their poorly-reasoned (in terms of providing evidence for whatever argument you make) papers.
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)He is Immoral and racist. Just like his buddy chump. Birds of a feather, flock together.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)There are a lot of high profile republican politicians who went to Ivy League schools. Some even spent time at Oxford. If youre a piece of shit youre a piece of shit.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)keep_left
(1,783 posts)Mark Meadows, Sarah Huckabee, Hope Hicks, etc. Some were more educated than others, but they all had the same total lack of qualifications for being in the positions they were.
General Flynn--God help us--even took the Fifth when asked about whether he believed in the "peaceful transfer of power" in this country, i.e. those things called "elections"! It's hard to get your head around that one...how one of the most decorated military officers can have such contempt for the Constitution, all while taking advantage of the legal protections it contains. That's certainly a lack of qualifications right there. Did this guy fall asleep in civics class?
Only "the best people" for Drumpf!
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)elected member of the HOR. One of the original teabaggers!
Bayard
(22,073 posts)Most people in trump's orbit--and trump himself--had college degrees of some sort, but it didn't keep them from being sub-human.
BTW--Neither George Washington nor Abraham Lincoln had college degrees.
electric_blue68
(14,903 posts)onethatcares
(16,168 posts)a step up from a highschool diploma with the next level being a Bachelor degree? The chosen field could be forestry, history or any number of things with a PhD being the highest educational level.
I graduated high school, never went to any level of college but I read alot trying to self educate myself. No way in hell I'd want to swim in power circles making decisions concerning the world.
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)I don't think that in itself would disqualify him if he had masses of relevant experience but it doesn't sound like he has that either.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Meadows is just a corrupt extremist
RussBLib
(9,013 posts)... and you know how Trump valued that. And that don't make you a genius.
andym
(5,443 posts)University of Pennsylvania.
De Santis graduated from Yale, and Harvard Law School. But his education seems wasted.
Senator John Kennedy of LA graduated from Vanderbilt, University of Virginia Law School and has law degree from Oxford as well. His education seems wasted as well
mahina
(17,659 posts)Two-year community college level degree is great for some things but not for this. Im guessing critical thinking didnt really come up.
Ill respect to the many excellent fields that an associates degree further. And 100% not feeling that a four year college degree is any kind of criteria for general quality of life for success other than those fields that need more. Trades are awesome and we need them. This is not that.
Duncan Grant
(8,264 posts)Those people who work the trades? Whip smart and skilled to the nth degree.
Please go after Meadows with all you got. Lets just not insult the riff-raff without college degrees.
EndlessWire
(6,531 posts)An Associate degree is the first step towards a higher degree. It is a broad education for general education requirements of a Bachelor's degree.
With an Associate degree, you can then port it to the Bachelor degree of your choice. Even though most Associate degrees have some kind of specific subject focus, it is mostly used to fulfill general ed.
When you earn a Bachelor's degree, you have more focus on a specific subject. Most people stop here. Yet, going on to a Master's degree should be the aim of every scholar. A Bachelor degree is becoming the basic degree needed for entry level employment. You don't want to just reach that level.
A Masters degree will bring the most enjoyment of all the degrees. There are many opportunities to focus on just what you want to learn, and how you are going to receive the training, i.e., online, in person, and hybrid. The only thing stopping you is money. You should pick a degree that can be monetized, in order to be able to pay back the fafsa loan you will surely need.
And, that is kinda sad, because this old world needs creative, artisan type people who enrich our world immeasurably, but just don't get paid enough to actually live in prosperity.
Without a Masters degree, you cannot teach in the public arena. So, this guy isn't qualified to teach even at the Associate level.
PhD? "Piled Higher and Deeper."
Renaissance Man
(669 posts)A white male with an AA from the University of South Florida was able to become a Congressman and the White House Chief of Staff. That's white privilege.
FeelingBlue
(679 posts)Im an absolute believer in community colleges. And respect for trades. And education of all kinds.
If one is going to hold office in one of the most powerful positions in the world, it seems to me that it would help the office-holder and the nation and the world if the person in that high position has excellent character+ a great education that would have trained him/her to THINK, to reason, to listen, to consider, to synthesize and to serve.
No 2 year degree can do all that. Even a BA may fall short. We need the best and the brightest in there+ moral decency.
Above comments are good and true: there are lots of educated dolts and failures. I agree. Moral character has to play a role in democratic government. We are living the results of choosing immoral and corrupted people to represent us. Education alone isnt enough. Nor is a simple good heart in the heat of complex decisions. We need good and well educated, well-prepared people in all positions close to power.
AKwannabe
(5,661 posts)Put there for exactly what he did while there. To orchestrate what tRump wanted.