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Tiedrich tweet about 10-year-old girl who had to travel to Indiana get an abortion: (Original Post) tblue37 Jul 2022 OP
It's not their ten years old daughter and in their mind "she deserves it" onecaliberal Jul 2022 #1
+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #2
It is probably the father who is the grandfather alphafemale Jul 2022 #3
This sort of reasoning will only get loonier. Bourgeois Liberal Jul 2022 #17
A prehistoric shithole dalton99a Jul 2022 #4
A Christofascist shithole NT drmeow Jul 2022 #5
Oh, you have visited. /S 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #14
An 'opportunity', a 'blessing from God' acc to republicans. keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #6
In Gilead, any female human who has started menstruating is MineralMan Jul 2022 #7
How long will it remain legal in Indiana treestar Jul 2022 #8
IN Legislature Special Session coming up Captain Zero Jul 2022 #21
Sick and disgusting. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2022 #9
Sadly DownriverDem Jul 2022 #10
What kind of shithole country allows media silence about the name of her rapist. ancianita Jul 2022 #11
Publicizing the name of the child's rapist wnylib Jul 2022 #27
Hard agree. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #31
Okay, I hear you. Fair point on behalf of the victim. ancianita Jul 2022 #33
junior bush did this lefthandedskyhook Jul 2022 #12
Colombia and the US Mosby Jul 2022 #13
The state of Ohio should have been charged w/ child endangerment. NT SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #15
This really pisses me off. Ten??? Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #16
For whatever reason, girls in the US are maturing at earlier ages. Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #19
One of the reasons for early maturation could be the amount of estrogen given to cattle in fed lots. panader0 Jul 2022 #24
So does Florida They think it is hormone's in milk or the amount of sunlight over the years Oppaloopa Jul 2022 #37
It's worse than you think: tblue37 Jul 2022 #38
I started when I was ten MustLoveBeagles Jul 2022 #26
I was 11, in 6th grade, 51 years ago. wnylib Jul 2022 #28
Republicans are also the party of child brides IronLionZion Jul 2022 #18
And pedophiles. ancianita Jul 2022 #25
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Jul 2022 #20
And if it was their ten year old daughter Demobrat Jul 2022 #22
First of all, the father should be prosecuted. appleannie1 Jul 2022 #23
Yes he Rebl2 Jul 2022 #29
I would have been able to conceive at nine. I can't even imagine getting pregnant at that age. appleannie1 Jul 2022 #36
Why should the father be prosecuted? PTWB Jul 2022 #30
The father of the concepts, not the father of the rape victim Danmel Jul 2022 #34
The father of the baby, not the father of the girl. Unless,of course, he was the dad of the baby. appleannie1 Jul 2022 #35
Why are we not reading about the rapist being arrested? nt Hotler Jul 2022 #32
Because it could lead to the identity of the child. Nt xmas74 Jul 2022 #39
Don't need a name. Just like to know that there was an arrest made and, Hotler Jul 2022 #40
Generally not too impressed with this Tiedrich guy gulliver Jul 2022 #41

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
6. An 'opportunity', a 'blessing from God' acc to republicans.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jul 2022

An 'opportunity', a 'blessing from God' acc to republicans.


Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
21. IN Legislature Special Session coming up
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:05 PM
Jul 2022

At the end of this month.
I'm sure even the guy from Noblesville who was a member of the Proud Boys in the past will be attending.

Ostensibly this is to reduce Indiana's 80 cent per gallon gas tax since we have a $4-6 billion surplus depending on who you believe, but I'm sure it will descend into a race to the bottom on abortion legislation as soon as they refund as little of the gas tax as they can.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
11. What kind of shithole country allows media silence about the name of her rapist.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jul 2022

What kind of shithole country doesn't have media report every rapist's arrest.

What kind of shithole country jails the pregnant and not their impregnators?

What kind of shithole country has rapists at all?

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
27. Publicizing the name of the child's rapist
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:49 AM
Jul 2022

could lead to identifying the child and making her name public. I am all for going after child rapists to the max, but not at the expense of the child's privacy being destroyed. She already has a ton of crap to deal with.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
31. Hard agree.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 11:11 AM
Jul 2022

Also, I'm pretty sure that every country has rapists (and if not every country, certain the vast majority). There absolutely are conditions that lead to greater or lesser amounts of all types of crime (including rape), but I'm not aware of any society in human history that has ever achieved the complete absence of it. I don't honestly know how the U.S. compares with other countries in terms of the number or rapists per capita, but I doubt that it qualifies for shithole status on that basis alone.

If anyone wants to talk about some of the other reasons, though......

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
33. Okay, I hear you. Fair point on behalf of the victim.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jul 2022

I maintain that when the rapist is 18 or over, they, just like all others are named in media for crimes, can be named -- the main stipulation being the use of the word alleged along with their name.

How the U.S compares depends on the year of measurement, and there's not much recently available, though I did take a look at this from 2021.

After arrest, alleged criminals have no reasonable expectation of privacy. After conviction they're placed on various nationwide sex offender registries.

As for my shithole use, I'm just riffing off Tiedrich's phrase, since I didn't think he uses it to hit at core problems with Republicans. Although I do believe that any country whose women are raped is a candidate for being "uncivilized" no matter how much wealth it has. Violating anyone's bodily autonomy with self styled impunity is barbaric.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
19. For whatever reason, girls in the US are maturing at earlier ages.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jul 2022

Even if they have their menses, the bodies of many young girls are not physically mature enough to safely give birth. The average weight for a 10 year old is 70 pounds. She could gain a third of her weight or more during pregnancy. Most adult women do not gain a third of their weight during pregnancy.

A 10 year old is a child, not a woman, and to force her to undergo pregnancy is cruel and inhumane. Of course, cruelty is the goal of the religious right.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
24. One of the reasons for early maturation could be the amount of estrogen given to cattle in fed lots.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jul 2022

It makes the cattle hold water, thus increasing their weight which equals more money.
Argentina, a big beef producer has the same situation.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
38. It's worse than you think:
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jul 2022
https://www.npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals

Most plastic products, from sippy cups to food wraps, can release chemicals that act li the sex hormone estrogen, according to a study in Environmental Health Perspectives.


Those esters might also be part of the reason for lowered sperm counts in males of many species, including humans.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
28. I was 11, in 6th grade, 51 years ago.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jul 2022

My mother told me that she was 16, later than all of her friends. So late, in fact, that her aunt, who was raising her, took her to a doctor.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
18. Republicans are also the party of child brides
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jul 2022

they are quickly slipping towards a Gilead style theocracy where refugees have to flee across state lines. Indiana is still a red state. Soon people will have to travel farther to get to their nearest blue state. All that costs money and taking time off work or school.

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
22. And if it was their ten year old daughter
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:16 PM
Jul 2022

they would never have to worry about her embarrassing them by becoming better educated, having a better career, or buying a bigger house.

I don’t know why people think these gorillas make exceptions for their sisters, wives, or daughters. Those females are precisely the ones who need to know their place and stay in it.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
23. First of all, the father should be prosecuted.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jul 2022

Second, giving birth at the age of 10 could very easily kill the little girl.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
29. Yes he
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jul 2022

should and yes it could kill the little girl. Wish there was a way to suppress girls that age from starting periods that early in life. Years ago (early 80’s) when I worked at Planned Parenthood, the youngest girl I saw was eleven and she had been raped by a step-brother. My supervisor told me to call division of family services. The mother pleaded with me not to do so, but by law I had to. She was very angry with me.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
30. Why should the father be prosecuted?
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jul 2022

The article linked in the OP does not indicate the father was the rapist. Are you just assuming, or do you have another source that has additional details?

If the father was the rapist he certainly should be prosecuted but if he wasn’t I’m not sure what you think he should be prosecuted for?

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
40. Don't need a name. Just like to know that there was an arrest made and,
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jul 2022

the fucker isn't walking around free and easy. Much like TFG is now.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
41. Generally not too impressed with this Tiedrich guy
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

I see a lot of his posts here. It's almost like DU is following him. Who the heck is he?

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