An Iranian Woman In 1973

[ItsjustMe]

[tblue37]

1. K&R for visibility. nt

[dalton99a]

2. Yep

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

3. K&R

"There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." - Senator Webster

[Wingus Dingus]

4. Presumably men could control themselves better back then.

Now the ladies need head-to-toe Hefty bags for their own protection. Prisoners for life of religious insanity.

[erronis]

10. I'm guessing the physical and sexual abuse within those walls are worse than in an open society.

From my limited knowledge of fundamentalist Abrahamic religions (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and millions of offshoots), one group - usually senior patriarchs, can control anybody else - especially the lower ones (women, non-cultists.)

The not nice thing about burkas and other coverings is that they hide signs of physical abuse.

Of course the controlling men are free to travel to "hot" spots to satisfy their particular sins.

[DFW]

24. If they could, there probably would not have been a 1979. n/t

[LeftInTX]

29. No. I knew alot of ME men back then

Women kept their distance here and there.
The men were wild and expected something if you were friendly. They often mistook politeness for something else.

The Iranian Revolution wasn't about sex. It was about FU to the Western World.

[3catwoman3]

5. If I were a man, I would be highly insulted to have it assumed...

…that I could not control my behavior because of my genitalia.

[LoisB]

11. As would I. Wonder why no one has invented a chastity belt for men?

[erronis]

14. Hoping you are a man in your next incarnation. We're not hard to figure out...

Ever watch a swarm of gnats in the summer? Most of them are males swarming a poor female.

Of course the females have a lot of tricks too. Eating their mate(s) after copulation (yes multiple mates).

While we might think we are above the fray, our primal impulses are usually much stronger than our mindful ones.

The best thing that happened to me as an old man was ---- getting old.

[3catwoman3]

18. I was a teenager in the middle and late 1960s. My late mother...

…was a nurse, and was very open about the mechanics of sex. I can’t remember hearing it for the first time, as she started quite early.

She made it quite clear that not only was I responsible for my own sexual behavior, but also for that of any boy I might date. Never, ever sit on a boy’s lap - too stimulating for the male. Too many kisses would lead to arousal that would be severely painful for the poor male if not allowed to be released, so to speak - I used to count kisses, and any more than 6-8 would have me worrying I was courting disaster.

I absolutely do not think it is fair for girls and women to be held solely responsible for the sexual behavior of both males and females.

[whopis01]

27. Are you really claiming you couldn't control your primal urges?

That is nothing but an excuse used to justifying everything from rape to taking away women’s autonomy.

Every sane man is completely capable of putting their mindful impulses ahead of their primal impulses.

The attitude of “men just can’t help themselves”, “boys will be boys” is nothing more than an attempt to excuse evil behavior and shift the blame to the victim. This is what creates rape culture.

[Brenda]

28. Plus billions

Men are the same everywhere it seems.

[LeftInTX]

6. Iran's Revolution was about overthrowing the Shah who was considered a puppet of the west

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi



In 1953, the CIA murdered the Prime Minister in a coup and elevated the Shah.
It was a a coup over oil. ETA: The PM was arrested and put in prison, then house arrest until his death in 1967.

Afterward, the Shah got super rich and everyone got poorer and poorer.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

8. In point of fact, the Irani PM Mohammad Mosaddegh was not murdered in the 1953 coup..

He was arrested, imprisoned for three years (in solitary confinement), and then kept under house arrest until his death in 1967.

[LeftInTX]

12. OK

[evolves]

9. To your point,

the Shah WAS a puppet of the West. The CIA and MI6 put him in place, as you say.

[multigraincracker]

21. It was a great Democracy with a popular elected leader.

Then big oil from the U.S.A and Britton wanted the oil. They installed the Shah and his secret police. History is a bitch.

[JI7]

7. Majority of Iranians are non religious now

there is a lot of hatred for the Islamic rulers.

[erronis]

13. The US may be heading in that direction. Opus Dei trying to control the the lives of everyone.

Somehow I don't see the religious nuts on the SCOTUS being able to assume the same power as the Iranian Assembly of Experts with the Federalist Society serving as the Guardian Council.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran

First of all, poor Clarence would have to go. And then Amy (coat-hanger) Barrett and the rest of the female justices.

Finally we'd be pure. Except the remainder would be branded as heretics, just like Pence.

[mrsadm]

17. I like the name, Amy (coat-hanger) Barrett

Let's use that everywhere now!

[IronLionZion]

15. People will say it can't happen here, right before it happens here

and then they'll say it's bad for someone else but not so bad for me, and so on.

White American religious zealots love to say that religious zealots are brown and foreign.

[Mosby]

16. Its not just Iran.

The fact that Islamists claim that their theological roots go back to Taymiyyah, Qutb etc. the reality is that fundamentalism is a recent development in the Islamic world, growing after the failure of pan-arabism and nationalism.

Check out this series of photos from Cairo University:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024727575

[SunSeeker]

19. That change is heartbreaking. nt

[LeftInTX]

25. The Western World created the modern Middle Eaat

WWI..Sykes-Picot agreement
What you're seeing is backlash. The Middle East was backwards. Britain and France took it over. That's why everyone is dressed like that

[roamer65]

20. Religion is POISON.

[erronis]

22. They'll be a few that say it's not the religion, it's the person. Same as guns.

When you give access to a weapon (religion or guns) those people that want power will use these weapons.

Sure, there are really nice people who lead flocks without any apparent physical harm. These aren't the predators that are fleecing their sheep and encouraging extremism. The nice flocks are also not looking at some perhaps better options for their social activism.

[roamer65]

23. There is now quite often a wide gap between being spiritual and religious.

That’s what I see. The dogmatism is pervasive and spreading.

[Demovictory9]

26. Egypt too..modern country taken backwards by religion