Inside the Extreme Effort to Punish Women for Abortion, (jail or death penalty)

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Inside the Extreme Effort to Punish Women for Abortion
Abortion “abolitionists” are the outer edge of the anti-abortion movement. They’re looking to gain followers after the decision to overturn Roe, unsettling mainstream anti-abortion groups.

Hours after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last week, a man with a wiry, squared-off beard and a metal cross around his neck celebrated with his team at a Brazilian steakhouse. He pulled out his phone to livestream to his followers.

“We have delivered a huge blow to the enemy and to this industry,” the man, Jeff Durbin, said. But, he explained, “our work has just really begun.”

“Even the states that have trigger laws,” which ban abortion at conception without exceptions for rape or incest, did not go far enough, Mr. Durbin, a pastor in the greater Phoenix area, said. “They do not believe that the woman should ever be punished.”

Resistance to “the question of whether or not people who murder their children in the wombs are guilty,” he said, “is going to have to be something we have to overcome, because women are still going to be killing their children in the womb.”

Even as those in the anti-abortion movement celebrate their nation-changing Supreme Court victory, there are divisions over where to go next. The most extreme, like Mr. Durbin, want to pursue what they call “abortion abolition,” a move to criminalize abortion from conception as homicide, and hold women who have the procedure responsible — a position that in some states could make those women eligible for the death penalty. That position is at odds with the anti-abortion mainstream, which opposes criminalizing women and focuses on prosecuting providers.

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About one in three American adults believe that, if abortion is illegal, women who have the procedure should serve jail time or pay a fine or do community service, according to a Pew Research Center study conducted in March. Men, white evangelicals and Republicans are among the most likely to believe that a woman should be punished, the study found.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/us/abortion-abolitionists.html8

[Ohio Joe]

1. K & R - nt

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Well, of course men lead in believing women should be...

punished simce no man will be punished for having an abortion. Women, however, seem to believe that, abortions shouldn't happen at all. The Guardian has published surveys showing 60% of women are opposed to abortion. I doubt the veracity of these surveys, but haven't senn much from the other side. This is at least somewhat believable since women have been told for ages that they are special as givers of life.

But, this sideshow should not distract us from attacking those who in any way attempt to make abortion a part of the criminal code, except where other parts of the code, like negligence, are called in.

It would be interesting if we did go after women, though. The thought of millions of women under sudden indictment for what is essentially a religious offense would keep a generation of lawyers employed. This thought no doubt keeps the anti abortion forces awake at night. They know that they will have to lose.

[Skittles]

3. "most likely men, white evangelicals and republicans"

[Corgigal]

4. Going to hurt

the wrong person wife or daughter.

Guess some people must learn the hard way.

[crickets]

5. So, in the case of a pregnancy caused by a rape,

the rape victim who receives the death penalty for getting an abortion will receive a much heavier punishment than anyone has ever tried to levy against a rapist in the US justice system. Ever.

Frankly, forcing a raped woman to carry a child to term, to be responsible for raising that child for at least 18 years, and then be forever biologically tied to her rapist through that child is also a much heavier punishment. Pity the poor child as well.

It really is all about punishing women, essentially for being women. Abortion "abolitionists" like Durbin are a menace.

eta non paywall link
https://archive.ph/XZ6qZ