Highland Park parade shooter's father says he is not culpable for son's attack

[Jilly_in_VA]

The father of the alleged Highland Park parade shooter, Bobby Crimo Jr., has told ABC News that he is not culpable in the Independence Day attack, in spite of having signed a consent form for his son to apply for gun ownership.

“I had no -- not an inkling, warning -- that this was going to happen,” Crimo told ABC News about the Fourth of July attack his son, Robert “Bobby” Crimo III, carried out in Highland Park, Il. “I am just shocked.”

Crimo claims both he and his wife asked their son just days before if he had any plans for the holiday. “He said ‘no.’ That was it,” Crimo recalled.

Crimo says he spent nearly an hour with his son in his yard the night before the attack talking about the planet. “Great mood,” he remembered. “I’m just shocked.”

Crimo says he never saw his son as a danger to anyone, but authorities recently disclosed past instances of violence. In 2019, police in Highland Park confiscated 16 knives, a dagger and a sword from the suspect’s home after a family member called claiming he “was going to kill everyone.”

https://abcnews.go.com/US/highland-park-parade-shooters-father-culpable-sons-attack/story?id=86355888

Either he is lying, or he is dumber than I give him credit for. Either way, he is an ACCESSORY to murder.

[elleng]

1. "I had no -- not an inkling, warning -- that this was going to happen,"

baloney (I'll grant he likely didn't know about the particulars, but surely did know something similar would occur.)

[TheBlackAdder]

37. Soneone's not paying attention to their kid. And that uncle seems just as daft.

[elleng]

38. Not paying attention or afraid to confront or not caring?

[DENVERPOPS]

42. That seems to be

the case with many of these youngsters..........It started with Keibold? and Harris? at Columbine................

My question then, and my question now, is where the fuck do these kids get the money to buy the guns, ammo, and other destructive arms?

And what kind of adult or parent would assist their kid in the purchase of an assault weapon????????????? Either by giving them the money, or directly assisting their kid to buy the assault weapon????????????

[elleng]

46. It's the case with their parents/adults in their lives.

As to the 'youngsters,' each one seems to have a variant of some anti-social characteristic, which we seem to have encouraged to 'thrive' in this culture.

They likely got the funds from family/friends, completely anti-social environments.

[liberalla]

45. I think there's a LOT of this in family dynamics. Fear of confrontation, avoiding difficult

conversations or situations. The temper tantrum of a child can be more frightening and dangerous in a young adult. Rather than dealing with an angry kid, parents may acquiesce in an attempt to placate the child. The desire for peace and calm is strong. Parents fool themselves that things aren't serious and that's just normal behavior for the kid to "get their way" or test boundaries. The kids may understand that they can control or intimidate the parent/s this way because the parent wishes to avoid anger, confrontation or realizing the problem is more than they can deal with.

The Sandy Hook shooter's mom was afraid of her son and didn't know how to deal with or help him. She thought guns and shooting was an interest/activity she could share with him. (!)

(Which seems insane to me)

[iluvtennis]

44. ++ agree. I used to search my teens rooms. They knew it and didn't like it, but I paid the mortgage

so they had no rights to privacy. My house, my rules.

[DENVERPOPS]

48. Klebold? and Harris?

If the parents or the police had ever looked in these kids rooms they would have found an arsenal AND a bomb making factory.
If the large bomb these kids had constructed and placed in the school lunchroom, had gone off, the casualties would have been massive..........

The parents must have given them an insane amount of allowance??????

The police had been called several different times about large explosions by these kids in the woods behind their houses, they went to the house but never confronted the kids or searched their rooms.

[gratuitous]

2. Thank you for your opinion, Bobby Jr.

Now, let's hear from a jury about your culpability.

[jimfields33]

3. The state, city, gun shop, father are all extremely guilty of this slaughter.

[Kingofalldems]

15. You forgot to mention the republican party....

and the NRA who are much more culpable.

[jimfields33]

29. True. It's still more the states fault though for easy and lax laws.

[Paladin]

4. No warning? Not culpable?

BullSHIT, dad.

I hope he loses every penny in a slew of lawsuits.

[MontanaMama]

5. His son threatened to kill his whole family

and the police took knives away. RED FLAG, daddy-o. He was also apparently the sponsor for the firearms purchase for his son and he did this knowingly after his son threatened to kill his family? This guy is in denial, a giant maroon or a liar...maybe all three. Sheesh.

[SheltieLover]

6. This!👆

[dchill]

7. I'm gonna get a second opinion.

[SunSeeker]

8. He is a lying Republican. He ran for mayor as a Republican in Highland Park and lost.

He ran for mayor in 2019 and was defeated by a pro-gun control Democrat. https://www.newsweek.com/robert-crimo-father-lost-highland-park-mayor-race-gun-control-democrat-1721775

His bitterness and hate no doubt spread to his stupid son.

[viva la]

9. He's giving us advice now.

"Crimo said the whole system needs to be overhauled, to prevent tragedies like this from happening again. “We need to come together as a community here in the country to come up with something, whether it's new laws, guidelines … this country is our problem right here.”

[ARPad95]

10. Disgusting! Did this guy even graduate from high school? His brother seems to be weak in the brain

function department, too.

Here's my advice...STFU, "Bob" Crimo, Jr.!

[greatauntoftriplets]

11. Daddy Crimo is full of crap.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

12. The Party Of Personal Responsibility.

Exhibit #25,652 (or something like that).

[Model35mech]

13. Maybe this is a generational thing...

each generation gets presented with new angles on problems and new explanations of their causes... community-wide accepted explanations change. I get that. Really.

But, blaming parents, aka Moms and Dads for the heinous crimes of their adult offspring generally exceeds my expectation of the system's ability to demonstrate such culpability at this time.

I do understand that 'bad parenting' is suggested to be linked to some of the severe behavioral and mental problems, but considering the state of behavioral psychology and it's incapacity to reliably name and describe observable causal mechanisms I think going down that path will be quite a demonstration of populist social power over elite expert knowledge, that is unlikely to follow the science

[ARPad95]

14. The father was instrumental in his son's ability to obtain assault weapons and likely lied to

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authorities when knives and swords were removed and then restored to the home based on his story that they were his and he had only stored them in his son's room.

[Model35mech]

16. Yes, I've read some of that. Mostly on social media which is less than trustworthy

But if they -really- can get a jury to assign culpability to parents of Crimo 3's crimes, it will work in our system.

BTW, the system wants to assign criminal blame and move on... anticipating the need to be able to assign blame to someone close to the perps in the next dozen or so mass shootings.

[DENVERPOPS]

49. Really?

I feel that many times (not all) kids are a product of the environment that they grew up in.........

[Model35mech]

51. ya, really.

[Boomerproud]

17. This cretin ran for mayor.

No words.

[H2O Man]

18. Recommended.

I vote for both lying and being dumb.

[struggle4progress]

19. "I have no sense of responsibility for my actions"

[CaptainTruth]

39. +1 Like the entire Republican party.

[raccoon]

20. Yes, you sure as hell are. Nt

[mopinko]

21. you keep tryin to put a shine on that turd, man.

lawyer up, dude.

[llmart]

22. Maybe he should start following the case in Oxford, Michigan...

to see what happened to those parents, and they're not through with that case yet. But both parents were arrested and taken to the pokey.

[edbermac]

23. Covering his ass for the avalanche of upcoming lawsuits

Borrowing a page from the master.

[barbtries]

24. given the history of previous death threats,

this rings hollow.

[IronLionZion]

25. GOP and NRA don't feel culpable either

But they sure want more people to buy more guns

[moonshinegnomie]

26. sue him into oblivion

take evry last dollar from him

[BidenRocks]

27. Obviously he hasn't looked at the kid!

You allowed this crap to happen!
Accessory!

[dlk]

28. Aiding and abetting...?

The father knew, he just didn’t care.

[childfreebychoice]

30. I am just curious as to where many of these young ppl,

many with no jobs, get the money for very expensive weaponry. An aside, have seen stories where the parents never ventured into their terrorist kids rooms...Wth

[DENVERPOPS]

47. BINGO CFBC

We are talking thousand(s?) of dollars for these weapons and ammo...............

AND many of the "parents" actually assisted the kid in "legally" acquiring the weapons, besides giving them the money....

WTF is wrong with these parents??????

If my teenage son wanted to get an Assault Weapon, I would take him down to the Army or Marine Recruitment Center.......

I saw an ad where some manufacturer is making smaller versions of these assault weapons. Sizes that a six year old could handle and pink ones for their small female children.............And an ad for a Republican politician standing for a family portrait with he and his wife, and children of all ages holding assault weapons...........

LOL, (but not really), I have several Dem friends who have old Trump President yard signs in their garage. They say if all hell breaks loose they will quickly put it up in their front yards.........

[Cha]

31. Of course the owner of Bob's Deli &

Pantry says that.. Magats don't take responsibility for their stupidity.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Upthevibe]

32. Kick. N/T

[choie]

33. Crimo claims both he and his wife asked their son just days before

if he had any plans for the holiday. “He said ‘no.’ That was it,” Crimo recalled. You mean, he didn't say "Yeah, dad, I'm going to shoot up the parade in Highland Park - should be fun!"

[AncientOfDays]

34. Absolutely culpable

He knew of the Red Flags and helped his son get a gun anyway.

All those conservatives/gun fondlers make these kinds of claims - yet they vote for Sheriffs/DA's/Politicians that refuse to enforce gun laws.

They claim the shooter is mentally ill, yet ignore the signs and refuse to fund mental health programs.

It's time to put the blame where it belongs - loudly, unequivocately.

[Javaman]

35. he should have a lawyer...

they words will come back to haunt him.

rightly so. he's an idiot.

[Brainfodder]

36. Well since he said so, that is not good enough for me!

[Grammy23]

40. Luckily for the rest of society,

It’s not up to him whether he’ll be held responsible — at least partially.

[ShazzieB]

41. He's in very, very deep denial.

Denial is a form of lying, but it's not deliberate, at least not consciously so.

Denial - A Primary Defense Mechanism

Psychology has identified denial as the primary defense mechanism that most people use to cope with highly stressful situations. It often involves blocking external events from our conscious awareness. Essentially, if a situation is too much for us to handle, then we refuse to experience it at all. That doesn't make the facts or the reality of the situation go away, but it allows us to pretend that it isn't real, therefore reducing its impact on us.

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/general/what-is-denial-psychology-how-to-address-it/

Denial is a common initial reaction to something truly horrendous. It can be a way of giving oneself time to process difficult truths. It becomes a serious problem if the person continues to cling to and hide behind denial over an extended period of time in the f⁹ace of mounting evidence that most would find undeniable.

It's early days yet. Personally, I'm taking what this guy says with a grain of salt for now. One some level I think he KNOWS the truth of the matter, and when/if it actually hits him, it'll hit hard.

I say when/if because he seems to have been in denial about the seriousness of his son's problems for some time. If it's already become habitual for him, he's less likely to ever confront the truth head on.

[samnsara]

43. i hope every family sues them and they end up working at piggly wiggly to..

..pay rent on their trailer


this is like the guy who was arrested in the U haul. He lives down the road from me. In the paper his dad said they were liberal and middle of the road politically however theres a huge trump flag in their yard. They removed the American flag after their son was arrested. The kid is still living in folks basement..just a cpl miles from a country school.

liars all...

[localroger]

50. He's going to be sorry he didn't consult a lawyer before making this public statement.

In the end it doesn't matter whether he knew what his son was likely to do. He signed the consent form. If he had cosigned for a loan and his son defaulted, he would be on the hook for the balance. In this case he will almost certainly be sued, and in a civil trial proof isn't required to secure a judgement. There is absolutely no dispute that he signed the consent form without which his son could not have gotten the weapon (at least legally), and if there is even the slightest reason for the jury to believe he shouldn't have done that -- and so far it looks like such evidence is more than slight -- well, if he owns his home, he won't for long.

[hunter]

52. In my Wild West American family tradition fools and their guns are soon parted.

Not always reliably before the damage is done.

I've got some PTSD issues with that.

[BradAllison]

53. He's a Trump humper

Nothing is ever their fault.