Is there a Trump mole in the DOJ?

[fightforfreedom]

This may be another possible reason Garland is being so secretive. The DOJ has to be worried someone in the DOJ could feed Trump information. Just a thought.

I also found it interesting Trump called a witness that had not been announced yet?

[secondwind]

1. Trump placed many folks in Justice Dept., Pentagon, INTELLIGENCE

He is a COMPLETE CROOK.

[mucifer]

3. supposedly, some with expertise in prosecuting mafia are working on the trump case

But, who knows

[FoxNewsSucks]

24. It started before MF45

BushCheneyCo purged the CIA and DOJ of "non-loyal Bushies". They actually used that term, which is why I remember reading about it.

Of course, Dems, who play fair, did not do the same, and in my opinion did far to little to get rid of those plants.

[2naSalit]

2. Probably...

Recall that two or three of Barr's immediate family were employed there, may still be there along with untold others. Non-appointed positions are harder to turn over than appointed positions where the person has to be invited to remain or compete in an open announcement. I'm sure there are some who are well concealed yet. Some are in the FBI and other agencies. They did a serious job of infiltrating everything in order to weaponize and destruct.

[Ilsa]

6. Absolutely. Look how high Flynn got in the

military as an extremist. They are everywhere.

[JonAndKatePlusABird]

10. His brother too

[Ilsa]

12. Yes, I'm concerned there may not be enough of an investigation

on the DOD side of things, and whether they were readied for martial law.

[mopinko]

4. take it to the bank. not a mole, a nest of moles.

he has so much clean up to do. flying the plane while rebuilding the engine.

[msfiddlestix]

20. "flying the plane while rebuilding the engine"

great analogy.

[duhneece]

30. That really describes so much that Biden has on his plate

Scary thought, too

[mopinko]

32. i would NOT buy a ticket.

[Ilsa]

5. Environmental lawyer Clark was in the DOJ. He was a Magat.

There are likely a few more out there who are willing to contact TFG to warn him when the DOJ is coming.

[SoFloDenny]

29. "Donald Trump left the board of his social media company weeks before federal subpoenas"

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/07/trump-left-social-media-company-board-before-federal-subpoenas.html

[onenote]

37. Clark left the DOJ before Biden was inaugurated.

[Ilsa]

38. Which is great, but I bet he wasn't alone there. nt

[BlueJac]

7. I assume he did as much evil business as possible!

Trump is a mob boss that relies on many loyalists to do his bidding! This man needs to be locked up.

[dalton99a]

8. It is a given.

[panader0]

9. tfg calling a witness that had not yet been announced caught my attention too.

Would the mole be in the DOJ or perhaps an aide or someone that worked for the J-6 committee?

[karynnj]

34. Trump did not need to be told who was likely to be called

Unlike us, he KNOWS who are people who were present at points illegal things were done. Even without knowing all the people in the Trump administration, people here and in the media have speculated at various points about who might be called.

Like many, I have been extremely impressed by the logical, focused paths the committee has taken. Consider that Trump and those near him, see both the lines drawn and dots connected by the committee AND they know some or all of what happened behind the scenes. It makes sense that Trump might try to contact anyone he is concerned with testifying against him. I would not be surprised if it was more than the one who went to their lawyer who went to the committee.

What was interesting about the Pierson/Pascale emails is that after the insurrection, he had regrets. This from the man who was probably involved with Cambridge Analytical. It is very possible that he gave Russia voter list information and the CA stuff to help target people in 2016. To me, this shows that even people quite willing to cheat to win (think decades of voter suppression) found Jan 6 a step too far. I would note that while that was a January 2020 reaction - and you also had the McCarthy and McConnell Congressional statements - in the last year and a half the Republican party actually backtracked on this. Not to mention, there were many who voted against certification.

I wonder if the clarity of the Jan 6 hearings might be moving at least a few individuals in that direction.

[edhopper]

11. I don't think the DOJ knows the committee witnesses

more likely someone in Congress.

But I don't equate "secretive" with not pursuing Trump.

[fightforfreedom]

14. My statement about the witness was separate from my statement about a possible mole in the DOJ.

[edhopper]

41. okay

thanks

[brooklynite]

13. Points for coming up with a new conspiracy theory...

I’m sticking with: the DOJ doesn’t share information. Out ongoing investigations with the blogosphere.

[fightforfreedom]

16. Wondering if there is a Trump mole in the DOJ is not a conspiracy theory.

It is something that is very possible. We all know Trump supporters are fanatical and will do anything for Trump. We know there are Trump supporters everywhere, including the DOJ, FBI, etc.

[867-5309.]

15. This sounds like the TFG's "deep state" claims

Let's stop dreaming up excuses for Garland.

[fightforfreedom]

17. No it does not. Stop making things up.

It was a simple question.

[867-5309.]

19. How is it different? n/t

[fightforfreedom]

21. My question about a possible mole in the DOJ is like a Trump deep state lie?

Give me a break.

[femmedem]

46. Sorry people are being sh*tty to you.

You are wondering, not claiming something is a fact.

I hate it when DUers pile on other DUers. A lot of good people have left over this kind of thing. I hope that you don't.

[BlackSkimmer]

42. Yes, I find it interesting this particular poster is floating this "theory."

The poster is always absolutely positive Garland will put tfg away.

Doubts creeping in, perhaps?

[PJMcK]

18. Maybe but there's something about the new witness

Rep. Cheney has been very careful in her choice of words.

When she referred to Trump having tried to call a witness, she said, “After our last hearing, President Trump tried to call a witness in our investigation — a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings..." (my emphasis).

That sounds like the witness has already testified at least once. (Cassidy Hutchinson had testified repeatedly in private before her public testimony.) Since we don't know all of the people who have testified behind closed doors, this is a tantalizing tidbit that may signify something much bigger.

The walls are closing in on Trump. I trust that AG Garland has the guts for his position.

[yaesu]

22. Lets face it, the DJ's credibility has been destroyed for most of us because of 4 yrs of fascist

control. It will take years (if we have years) to build that trust back. That is one tool fascists use to destroy democracies, distrust in government.

[LoisB]

23. Probably in every department as well as Congress.

[Turbineguy]

27. Christo-Fascists have been infiltrating for decades.

Luckily, like those attracted to trump, they are not very good.

[LoisB]

28. Yes. Also, if I remember correctly, a bunch of trump's appointees became Civil Servants as a way

to stay in government.

[kairos12]

25. More like

whatever you call a grouping of maggots.

[ananda]

52. A Mindless of Maggots

...

[Hortensis]

26. Let's remember, we're talking about world-class crime busters. Criminal cartels,

foreign and domestic terrorist organizations, foreign espionage nests, treasonous cabals, they go after them.

AG investigations are always very secretive, and this one is as highly sensitive as possible. There's no need for another reason to explain lack of information out of there. And their A teams are on this investigation.

As for tRump and McConnell sympathizers in the Doj, sure, but the problematic will have been invited to leave, fired and prosecuted, or transferred to Human Resources or projects in Winnemucca, NV and Pine Apple, AL.

Those remaining have to be pretty concerned for themselves these days. Most (all or almost all?) would also have long been known to or suspected by their associates in the DoJ. More recent hires of avowed tRumpists were never well regarded and always mistrusted by colleagues at all levels. Had real problems getting dates and invitations to parties too.

[True Blue American]

31. Trump is getting reports. His funding is paying many of the legal bills.

[ancianita]

33. It's likely there's a mole in the Jan 6 committee staff, imo. Probably not the DOJ.

It's a so-called bipartisan effort, and we know what their side's "effort" means.

[Farmer-Rick]

35. According to Wiki there are at least 12

At least 12 Trump appointees are still working at top levels in the DOJ.

So Trump moles in DOJ is Not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Justice_appointments_by_Donald_Trump

[onenote]

44. That list is woefully inaccurate. It's a fact.

Rule number one with Wikipedia -- verify anything before relying on it.

A review of the current status of the individuals identified as still with DOJ reveals that almost everyone so identified actually left DOJ on or shortly after Trump's inauguration. That includes Engel, Donald Washington, Patrick Havakimian, Laura Rogers, Caren Harp, Darlene Biehl, David Mulhausen, and Jeffrey Anderson. Jon Adler actually left in 2019. The only ones still serving in an appointed position are Chris Wray (the decision to keep him was affirmatively made by Biden), Gerri Ratliff who is a career DOJ employee who first joined the Department in 1994 while Clinton was president, Deline Reardon, who serves on the board of the Federal Prison Industries as the Department of Defense (not DOJ) designee, and Regina Lombardon, acting chief of BATF, who joined BATF 30 years ago during the Clinton administration.

It's a fact.

[Farmer-Rick]

45. Fact: That's why I listed where I got the info from

I didn't mean to trigger you over wiki.

Even by your assertions, 4 are still there. Though I don't agree with the accuracy of your data because you provide no links.

And Wray as head of the FBI? Why reconfirm a Trump appointee?

[onenote]

53. Here are the links. There is exactly one Trump holdover in a "top level" DOJ position.

Actually, only two, not four are still working full time for the DOJ. Two others have full time positions outside the DOJ but serve in part-time positions on DOJ-related boards/commissions, neither of which has anything to do with the January 6 prosecutions.

The two full time include Wray and Gerri Ratliff and only Wray has role in connection with the January 6 prosecutions. (Ratliff is acting director of the Community Service Office of the Marshals service, but is a long time DOJ employee who started out as the counsel to Clinton's deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick.

Bottom line: if you want to focus on Wray, fine. I'm not going to defend Biden's decision to keep him on as FBI director. But focusing on him is moving the goal posts to a different planet from your claim that there are at least a dozen Trump appointees still working at top levels in the DOJ and that these "moles" are a fact, not a conspiracy theory.

Still in office:

Christopher Wray: Appointed director of the FBI by Trump. A Republican. Has a role in the investigation of the January 6 insurrection.

Gerri Ratliff: Appointed as Acting Director, Community Service of the US Marshals Service in 2018, but first started her long career at DOJ as counsel to Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, who was a Clinton appointee. Her position gives her absolutely no say over the January 6 prosecutions.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerri-ratliff-2969a410
See also https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVMAN-1997-05-30/pdf/GOVMAN-1997-05-30-Pg327.pdf

Part-time DOJ-related positions:

Patrick Hovakimian: First joined DOJ in 2014 (Obama administration). Appointed to part-time position as a commissioner of the Foreign Claims Settlement Commission in 2018. He apparently still holds that position (which has zero to do with the January 6 prosecutions), but left full time DOJ service and returned to private practice in January 2021.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickhovakimian
See also https://www.pillsburylaw.com/en/lawyers/patrick-hovakimian.html

Deline Reardon: Reardon never was a DOJ employee. She is a career Defense Department employee who currently is the Marine Corps Assistant Deputy Commandant for Installations and Logistics. She was appointed by Trump to be the DOD representative on the board of directors of UNICOR, the Federal Prison Industries Program aka UNICOR. https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/108396/deline-r-dee-reardon/ https://www.iandl.marines.mil/Leaders/View/Article/1856085/ses-deline-dee-r-reardon/

Not in Office:

Regina Lombardo: Former Director Bureau Alcohol and Firearms. Long-time BATF employee, she was made acting director in 2018. She stepped down to become director of security for the Metropolitan Museum of Art in May 2021. The Senate recently confirmed Biden's nominee for the position of Director, Steve Dettlelbach, making him the first Senate confirmed director since 2013. Between Lombardo and Dettlebach, the agency was led by two Biden appointed acting directors, Marvin Richardson (June 2021- April 2022) and Gary Restaino (April 2022 until July 2022) https://www.metmuseum.org/press/news/2021/regina-lombardo
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/20/politics/gary-restaino-acting-atf-director/index.html

Donald Washington: Former Director US Marshals Service. Appointed in 2019, he left government service in September 2021.
https://www.usmarshals.gov/contacts/leadership.html


Laura Rogers: Former Acting Director of the Office of Violence Against Women, another agency with nothing to do with the January 6 prosecutions. She left government service in 2021 and currently serves as Managing Director of something called Guidepost Solutions.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-rogers-08a89611a
See also https://www.justice.gov/archives/ovw/staff-profile/former-principal-deputy-director-laura-l-rogers

Caren Harb: Former Administrator of the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. She left office in January 2021 and was replaced by Chryl Jones; more recently, President Biden named Amy Solomon to run the Office https://www.ojp.Dagov/news/news-release/president-biden-taps-youth-justice-advocate-lead-ojjdp

Darlene Biehl: Former Director of the Office For Victims of Crimes. She abruptly left that position in 2019. The current director, Kristina Rose, was named by President Biden in 2021. https://thecrimereport.org/2019/12/27/hutchinson-biehl-out-as-federal-crime-victim-chief/
See also https://ovc.ojp.gov/about/ovc-director

David Mulhausen: Former Director of the National Institute of Justice. He left that position in 2021. He currently is employed in the private sector.
https://nij.ojp.gov/about-nij/nij-directors-1969-present#muhlhausen
See also https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbmuhlhausen

Jeffery Anderson and Jon Adler: Both listed as Director of the Bureau of Justice Assistance. Adler had the job until 2019 and is now director of a charitable foundation. Anderson held the job until January 2021 and is now president of something called the Main Street Initiative. The position was filled in January 201 by Kristen Mahoney who served until President Biden named Kelton Moore to the job in February 2022. https://www.ojp.gov/archives/about/jeffrey-anderson
https://www.ojp.gov/news/news-release/president-biden-taps-ohio-criminal-justice-director-moore-lead-bja https://www.fleoa.org/news-story.aspx?id=7845

[kentuck]

36. His name is:

Christopher Wray.

[Baked Potato]

39. Investigations can be strictly compartmented.

Therefore, only screened and cleared people with a valid need to know would have access to some or all of the investigation. Not saying it’s airtight, but that’s what the system attempts.

[live love laugh]

49. And moles can infiltrate and gain access.

It’s highly unlikely all of Barr’s people left when Barr left.

[ananda]

40. Only one? I expect there are quite a few.

...

[live love laugh]

48. ✔️

[onenote]

43. Not in a position of actually influencing anything.

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16921149

[live love laugh]

47. "A"? Multiples... I'm guessing.

[Blue Owl]

50. Whack a mole

[Kablooie]

51. Not only a mole but several large birthmarks that Trump stuck in there.

I personally don't think Garland is being secretive.
I think he just won't indict Trump no matter what the crimes and how strong the evidence because of the explosive Republican reaction. I expect he considers it too dangerous to indict a past president and so he's going to let Trump get away with everything.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any evidence to the contrary.