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(52,320 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:42 PM Jul 2022

a few truths i'm tired of the media failing to acknowledge

1) donnie is nuts. insane. the world he sees is a world no one else sees. in it, he's the greatest human ever, and it infuriates him if anyone should disagree or even fail to remind him of it on a regular basis.

if it weren't for the crazy money he was born into, he'd likely be in a mental institution, prison, or otherwise be destitute. people would then have an easier time calling him cuckoo for cocoa puffs. only because he's had money, he's been able to surround himself with co-dependent sycophants and others who think they can profit from his unethical business and later political practices.

just stop with the "breaking norms" and "exciting to watch" and all that crap. there's a reason we don't give tons of airtime to people who are insane, and when we do, the media is usually very careful to caution that hey, these are the ravings of a lunatic.

donnie needs to be covered that way. c'mon, he's comically textbook in terms of some specific mental illnesses. the media looks like chumps when they make like we should listen to what he says. it's just nuts.


2) donnie isn't merely a liar, he's quite likely the most prolific liar in all human history.

ok, i can't say for sure, maybe some history buff will point out some other great liar. but it's hard to come up with someone who lies as often as donnie. he basically sees the lying as *the entire point* of talking. if there's something truthful, why waste his time speaking about it? everything he ever says is trying to push either some fantasy or twist something with maybe, maybe a grain of truth into something it's entirely not, amounting to a total lie.

it's simply what he does. we've all heard the joke about how do you know such-and-so is lying, his lips are moving. haha, comic exaggeration. but in donnie's case, yeah, that's pretty much true. he *always* speaks with an agenda and virtually always, that includes lying.


again, the media make themselves look like chumps when they go back to that well for yet more poisoned water. you *know* he's a liar, about virtually everything, so why, why care what he has to say if you know it's going to be a lie, or maybe a dozen lies?


3) republicans are authoritarians or fascists. they are *not* "conservative". just because the party has the same name as continuity with the republicans of the 1970s, and *they* were conservative, doesn't mean that today's republican party is.

today's republican party has far, far more in common with the fascist parties of europe nearly 100 years ago. they don't believe in democracy, they believe in rules for others but not for themselves, they believe in lying and propaganda to gain and keep power, they believe in sowing division and hatred, labeling people who disagree with them as "enemies" or "unpatriotic", they *never* disavow violence and often encourage it, and so on.

and they are *completely* un-self-critical. they view the unquestioned, (misplaced) loyalty to the republican party and its leadership as being of primary importance, far more important than allegiance to america or any sense of ethics or morality. all is excused if it's done by republicans.


the media looks like a bunch of fools when they call fascists "conservative". actual conservatives have been chased out of the party. they're now either democrats or independents who usually vote for democrats. because a conservative's best choice for actually conserving the status quo, including a safe, environment for businesses to profit and make money for their shareholders, is to vote for democrats. republicans are all about upsetting the apple cart, and yes, some businesses may make a mint, but others will be crushed. and those that do survive a full fascist takeover may find themselves destroyed by the incompetence and greed of the republican leaders.


4) there is no material voter fraud. just stop with this nonsense. there's about as much voter fraud as there was flag-burning in the 1988 election, but even back then, the media beclowned themselves talking about the *four* annual cases nationwide and made it a major voting issue.

the odds of any voter fraud actually changing a result are slim to none at the presidential level. you'd really need a local election in a small town to have a handful of cases change the result, or *massive* impossible-to-miss voter fraud at the national level.

what we do have is republicans (fascists, remember) puffing up this fantasy as an excuse to rig election through a variety of jim crow, er, i mean "election security" laws that, gee, somehow always seem to result in fewer votes from minorities and poor people and people in democratic precincts.

*that* is the massive voter problem. voter suppression, and *that* is happening on a massive scale. extreme gerrymandering, de-registering voters, fewer voting machines (long lines) in democratic areas, voter id (a blatant poll tax), etc.


yet again, the media focuses on the tiny, immaterial problem (because that serves republican interests) and doesn't raise the alarm on a far, far bigger problem of voter suppression. the media needs to call out republicans for what it is they're actually doing -- lying about a fantasy problem in order to subvert democracy and the will of the people.

government power flows from the will of the people, and voter suppression has no role in a democracy.

which brings us to...


5) we are not a democracy. to whatever extent we used to be an imperfect democracy, we are now a failed democracy and we need to have 5-alarm screaming about fixing it.

the house is highly rigged due to partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression, to the point when republicans are awarded far more seats than their proportionate share of the vote.

the senate is essentially automatically gerrymandered as it gives far more representation to people in small states than to people in large states. this results in a highly undemocratic institution that greatly favors republicans. again, their numbers in the senate greatly outweigh the popular vote the get.

the bi-cameral system, where a law must pass *both* houses in order to become law (plus the president's signature, or a veto override), make it very difficult to pass any law, especially if there is an undemocratic problem in *either* house -- and as noted, both houses are undemocratic. and this doesn't even take the filibuster into account, which on its face is completely undemocratic.

and don't get me started on the electoral college.

there has, only very recently, been some media attention to how undemocratic the supreme court is and has become, noting that the many of the courts radical right majority came into office after lying to congress and after being appointed by quite unpopular presidents. and of course, mcturtle abusing rules to deny obama, a popular president, a choice and transfer it to donnie -- blatantly violating the will of the people, centuries of tradition, and the clear intent of the founders and the constitution.

on issue after issue, the majority of people agree with the positions of the democratic party, yet we barely have nominal control, and effectively don't have real control in the senate other than on administrative party votes. consequently, it's difficult to do what the majority of voters want us to do.

doesn't sound like much of a democracy, does it. and this is before you consider that republicans have no problem with a coup attempt to get their way.


6. republicans are serial saboteurs. their basic strategy when there is a democrat in the oval office is to root for failure and hope for major ills to befall america, so that they can profit from it as a party. beyond mere rooting, they will delay and kill any legislation that can that might be seen as an achievement by the democratic president. they don't care how many americans will be harmed. in fact, they *want* a ton of americans to be harmed, because they believe the democratic president will be blamed.

and we return yet once more to the media. republicans do this routinely because they *know* they can count on the media for never calling them out on it. the media *always* blames democratic presidents for things not in their control and *never* holds republican president responsible for disasters.

carter got the blame for the stagflation that was due to opec's oil supply war and price-gouging, nixon/ford's incompetence at dealing with inflation, and also for the hostage situation that was due to iran's revolution and anger at america going back several previous administrations. not carter's fault, but he got roasted for it.

point of fact, carter eventually solved the stagflation by appointing volcker to the fed, who jacked interest rates to the moon to bring inflation under control. of course, the media gave all the credit to reagan because by then, he was president, even though he did nothing to help the economy and certainly nothing to control inflation.

meanwhile, after shrub ignored warnings before 9/11, we were told we all had to rally around the president. similarly, after donnie threw away the pandemic planbook, and actively sided with the virus at pretty much every step, the media rarely took him to task over it. gosh, who could have predicted 9/11 or a pandemic?

that's always the line when bad crap happens when a republican is president, as if anyone could have predicted hostages being taken for over a year in iran.

today's economy is largely a boom economy after the pandemic. inflation is due to supply problems precisely because the economy boomed so much due to pent-up demand and stimulus from the government. but these factors are temporary. the inflation we see is highly likely not to be enduring because we don't have strong unions. it's nearly impossible to have sustained structural inflation without strong unions.

regardless, biden could do a number of things to improve matters, but of course, republicans will just say no to anything and everything. because they can count on the media blaming biden for not getting the problem solved, even if it's blatantly the republicans who are preventing the problem from being solved.


the media looks ridiculous blaming democratic presidents for things they never blame republican president for, and for never holding republicans accountable for deliberately bringing harm to americans in order to further their own poltical ambitions.













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a few truths i'm tired of the media failing to acknowledge (Original Post) unblock Jul 2022 OP
hell, i dont think the whole 'fiscally responsible' thing is dead, let alone mopinko Jul 2022 #1
i actually thought about adding that one, but i had to cut off the post somewhere. unblock Jul 2022 #4
The Two Santa Clause strategy... Shipwack Jul 2022 #11
Thank you! tanyev Jul 2022 #2
donnie actually signaled a lot of the j6 crap even in 2016. unblock Jul 2022 #5
The media should hammer that home... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #10
You know SS DENVERPOPS Jul 2022 #41
Yeah... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #43
Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility Martin Eden Jul 2022 #3
exactly! everyone's response should be, why should we care what a pathological liar says? unblock Jul 2022 #6
Well, we should care when those lies are believed by millions who become enraged ... Martin Eden Jul 2022 #7
same shit -different day ! cloudboy07 Jul 2022 #9
We should care *that* he lies and *that* he divides us unblock Jul 2022 #13
Myth of the **liberal media** Martin Eden Jul 2022 #14
Yeah, whatever "liberal bias" we had in the media vanished when nightline started unblock Jul 2022 #15
K&R onecaliberal Jul 2022 #8
#5 has bothered me for decades. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #12
Cult de-programming lambchopp59 Jul 2022 #16
Magnificent. Everyone should read this. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #17
They are all Russian FSB assets... Thunderbeast Jul 2022 #18
Some know/welcome it. Some know/fear it. And the rest are too stupid. erronis Jul 2022 #24
That Woodward interview revealed Trump's clear and nuanced understanding of the real pandemic nt Shermann Jul 2022 #19
Media complain complain complain about Democrats, everybody's hobby becomes whining about them. betsuni Jul 2022 #20
The media constantly says "The big lie" "there was no fraud" etc. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #21
Do you see rw tv and thousands of radio and bloggers Boomerproud Jul 2022 #33
I have seen more than one reporter on Fox say "there is no proof" oldsoftie Jul 2022 #34
Well said KnR BlueGreenLady Jul 2022 #22
Good start. I'd add labeling any Democrats who express plans for PatrickforB Jul 2022 #23
r&k Excellent. ❤ MerryBlooms Jul 2022 #25
And my coda: That there has to be some organized group/s that works at sabotaging democracy. erronis Jul 2022 #26
Indeed, it goes back to the Koch brothers and the john birch society unblock Jul 2022 #27
Another myth the media pushes is that they're fiscally responsible. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #28
Thanks for this think-piece, unblock! calimary Jul 2022 #29
It actually just spilled out onto the (virtual) page unblock Jul 2022 #31
Well, GOOD that you posted 'em all, here! calimary Jul 2022 #45
Thanks!! unblock Jul 2022 #47
K&R GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #30
Yep. Call it like he is. Unhinged. JHB Jul 2022 #32
That's a good one. calimary Jul 2022 #46
The question the poster should have asked is why the media is in the tank for Republicans? Dustlawyer Jul 2022 #35
Crazy isn't in and of itself enough of a legal defense unblock Jul 2022 #38
Spot on! I get rankled when people say Trump is crazy or insane because he is not. Dustlawyer Jul 2022 #40
MSM got rid of the only "talking head" willing to say these truths on air. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #36
The REPUBLICAN Owned Media! live love laugh Jul 2022 #37
"Iran Contra" IbogaProject Jul 2022 #39
Don't forget Nixon sending Kissinger to Paris to negotiate with North Vietam geardaddy Jul 2022 #48
K&R. We play an integrity & intellect game, while they universally cheat and exploit that to shreds. JudyM Jul 2022 #42
Republicans stopped being conservative long ago IronLionZion Jul 2022 #44
Yes! Quanto Magnus Jul 2022 #49
You've hit one right out of the park. Permanut Jul 2022 #50

mopinko

(70,216 posts)
1. hell, i dont think the whole 'fiscally responsible' thing is dead, let alone
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jul 2022

buried. confess i havent heard it much lately. dr dean countered that pretty well, and i cant say i've heard it srsly since then.
but i dont see much tv news.

unblock

(52,320 posts)
4. i actually thought about adding that one, but i had to cut off the post somewhere.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jul 2022

republican fiscal policy is a racket. they drain the treasury and run up huge deficits, giving massive cuts and giveaways to rich donors, who naturally kickback a portion to get their republican politician re-elected.

then a democrat becomes president and all of a sudden they're all about fixing the deficit. they love tax hikes just so long as it's a democrat they can blame it on and of course, as long as it doesn't hurt the rich too badly. but then, they don't really mind even that too much because it gives them an excuse to hit up the rich for more contributions so they can get in a fresh tax cut for them, etc.

rinse, repeat.

every little everything democrats do has to be fully paid for. then donnie comes in and immediately burns a $2+ trillion hole in the deficit for no good reason whatsoever.

rules for democrats, no rules for republicans.

Shipwack

(2,171 posts)
11. The Two Santa Clause strategy...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:48 PM
Jul 2022

Republicans knew that people associated the Democrats with being the party who met their needs. To combat this (and to keeponey from going to the undeserving non-wealthy types) the Republicans developed this strategy in the 70s...

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/12/thom-hartmann-how-the-gop-used-a-two-santa-clauses-tactic-to-con-america-for-nearly-40-years_partner/

tanyev

(42,613 posts)
2. Thank you!
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jul 2022

It’s satisfying but also frustrating to hear so many talking heads be astounded by the J6 hearings, because a lot of that information was already out there. I understand why the average American would be astonished by much of the testimony, but why are people whose job it is to follow this stuff acting like this is the first time they’re hearing it????

unblock

(52,320 posts)
5. donnie actually signaled a lot of the j6 crap even in 2016.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jul 2022

he has always basically said that any election he wins is legit and any election he loses is rigged.

how the media ever could promote this guy is just... arrrrgghhh!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
10. The media should hammer that home...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jul 2022

over, and over, and over again. They didn't pay much attention to it at the time, and have completely forgotten about it since.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
41. You know SS
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jul 2022

that the mainstream media in the entire U.S. is 80+% owned by wealthy Republicans......

It is no surprise to see them pushing certain BS articles and down playing others.......

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
43. Yeah...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jul 2022

sometimes I forget and actually think I'm reliving the days of Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley. Those days are long gone.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
3. Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:59 PM
Jul 2022

When TFG was POtuS and the media would hang on his every word (still does to a large extent) and Democrats would often be asked to respond to his latest mendacity, I suggested the standard response should be -- and I mean the standard response repeated EVERY DAMN TIME -- over and over and over again until Democrats constantly repeating it would become a news story unto itself:

Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility

Repeat:
Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility

This statement has the virtue of being absolutely true.

He is a liar who lies and every time he lies which is pretty much every time he opens his mouth he should be called out on his lies and called a liar with:

Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility

unblock

(52,320 posts)
6. exactly! everyone's response should be, why should we care what a pathological liar says?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jul 2022

similarly for any republican regarding any scandal. the crap they throw at democrats is just nuts. hillary got lambasted over basically non-scandals, yet republicans get away with murder and incompetence on a massive scale.

i mean, hillary didn't update security on a server that wasn't supposed to have classified information, had very little, didn't get breached as far as anyone can tell, and there was no apparent damage to national security.

meanwhile, cheney blew out entire operation tracking nuclear materials in the middle east out of personal spite, and donnie was the most blatantly blackmailable person ever in contact with classified information and had some completely private conversations with putin but *republicans* are the ones we're supposed to think are more reliable about national security??

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
7. Well, we should care when those lies are believed by millions who become enraged ...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:19 PM
Jul 2022

... some of whom are incited to acts of violence causing serious damage and death.

Your other points are spot on.

Democrats play by a different set of rules while Repukes commit atrocities with little or no consequences.

 

cloudboy07

(351 posts)
9. same shit -different day !
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jul 2022

get a few good sites & do not click on the garbage newspaper crap'ola ! all for free press , but not liar new's that want ratings! they know we can't sue them because of army of damn lawyers, solution is don't click on the garbage!

unblock

(52,320 posts)
13. We should care *that* he lies and *that* he divides us
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:06 PM
Jul 2022

And the media should cover that.

But it should not be propagating those lies and his divisive stereotypes. A headline might be that Donnie lied in a speech or that he used a racially offensive stereotype in a tweet.

Then, in the 8th paragraph, the actual lie or stereotype is shown. The story is that he lied or used an offensive trope. Leading with the actual quote gives it legitimacy it doesn't deserve. And the media quoted Donnie or showed him live far too often.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
14. Myth of the **liberal media**
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:17 PM
Jul 2022

For-profit corporate media is first and foremost motivated by shareholder value (making the rich richer).

The tRump circus was a gold mine.

Joe Biden is relatively boring, so they spin a narrative of Democrats in disarray with a looming midterm disaster to drum up interest.

unblock

(52,320 posts)
15. Yeah, whatever "liberal bias" we had in the media vanished when nightline started
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:19 PM
Jul 2022

showing the hostage story every damn day.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
12. #5 has bothered me for decades.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jul 2022

This is how republicans run the country by minority rule. The only way to address this is by a Constitutional Convention, and I believe there's no chance of that ever happening.

For all intents and purposes, taxes from blue states subsidize most red states. Not exactly equitable considering the advantages of representation red states enjoy.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
16. Cult de-programming
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:20 PM
Jul 2022

Has to include recognition of staying on a subject. This is so damn frustrating to me any time Fox is trying to handle a "gotcha" item, backed into a corner with no real justification for an idiotic act of their Trumupy clowns is when they whip out:
"BUTT WHADDABOUT".
God dammit you Fox Noise bamboozled fools, start recognizing what they did rather than bobbling your empty heads, God dammit, God dammit.
Trump sold them a bridge. And a wall. And a shitload of completely worthless rhetorical bullshit.
"So this is hell. And there's a crucifix in it".
Just like Trump's social media called "Truth Social"
There are 74,216,154 bamboozled, fact-free fools for Trump who if not convinced after all that chaos, aren't likely to "get woke" as long as the likes of Fox keeps up it's bamboozlery.
And only 81,268,924 of us who acted responsibly.
Make it simple: remind the ilk that when they say "BUTT WHADDABOUT Hillary"... now, what did they just do?

erronis

(15,331 posts)
24. Some know/welcome it. Some know/fear it. And the rest are too stupid.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 08:37 PM
Jul 2022

I just wanted to segregate those that have some critical thinking skills and are all on-board with putin/libertarian take-over of the US, and those that have been made cooperative by threats. Given the weak-spined 'puglicons we've seen recently, I'll vote for many that have threats hanging over their heads.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
20. Media complain complain complain about Democrats, everybody's hobby becomes whining about them.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jul 2022

But in a way everybody's very happy during a Democratic administration. Constant negativity and snark, everything's their fault, don't do enough or do too much, negative headlines instantly believed without bothering to check if any of it's true, half-hearted fake scandals. Eight years of "Thanks, Obama!" Then Hillary the "over prepared" supermonstervillaincriminal. How fun! Lots of fun hate!

Ironic because that helps Republicans get elected and that's not as much fun because nothing is ever their fault and nobody much complains about them. Here media have an endless gold mine of juicy real scandals and lies and corruption and real supermonstervillaincriminals. But the mine is left untouched. Every day there could be exciting shocking true stories about Republicans that everyone would rush to find out about. It's as if Kim Kardashian got married again and the tabloids ignored it.

oldsoftie

(12,602 posts)
21. The media constantly says "The big lie" "there was no fraud" etc.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:47 PM
Jul 2022

I'll give them credit for that much, I see it mentioned all the time

oldsoftie

(12,602 posts)
34. I have seen more than one reporter on Fox say "there is no proof"
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:15 AM
Jul 2022

Radio, I don't give a shit. Those are opinion shows & only preach to the already conned choir. They don't count as "media" to me. Although I do know Erik Erikson has said repeatedly that trump lost and people need to get over it. I believe Ben Shapiro has said the same. I remember he said in Nov that trump was irresponsible for claiming victory, because that comment made the news

PatrickforB

(14,588 posts)
23. Good start. I'd add labeling any Democrats who express plans for
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jul 2022

Medicare for all Americans, expanded Social Security, and enriching other programs that materially help Americans as 'far left liberal' or simply far-left, and calling people like Manchin center, or centrist Democrats.

As Robert Reich recently (and brilliantly) pointed out, this idea is rubbish. There is no middle between an authoritarian dictatorship, which is what the GOP clearly supports, and democracy, and if there was, why would we want to be there?

erronis

(15,331 posts)
26. And my coda: That there has to be some organized group/s that works at sabotaging democracy.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jul 2022

This isn't grassroots. This isn't a few tea-bagger patriots deciding that they want control of the gov't. These boys-with-guns aren't just our normal yokels - they are being egged on.

This is well funded. It is sometimes well organized. The CNP and their spawn (FedSoc) are part of the funders but I think it goes much wider than that - into foreign interference.

Citizens United was a big chink in the armor of fairness. The current SCOTUS will continue to undermine democracy via a lot of little knife stabs as well as mortal wounds when they can.

unblock

(52,320 posts)
27. Indeed, it goes back to the Koch brothers and the john birch society
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 09:15 PM
Jul 2022

A ton of right-wing think tanks and political organizations were created and/or funded by them. Throw in rubbery Murdoch and you've got the backbone of the right-wing propaganda machine.

Sky Jewels

(7,137 posts)
28. Another myth the media pushes is that they're fiscally responsible.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jul 2022

No they're not. They just love to hack away at any program that actually helps people, especially non-white people and women. They spend like drunken sailors on their grifting programs that line the pockets of billionaires.

unblock

(52,320 posts)
31. It actually just spilled out onto the (virtual) page
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 12:34 AM
Jul 2022

So many thing been pissing me off the last few years.

calimary

(81,467 posts)
45. Well, GOOD that you posted 'em all, here!
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jul 2022

This is important stuff!

EVERY good idea, good line, good approach, good way to word it, ALL THAT STUFF is to put out there for more of us to see, use, pass around, share with friends, build awareness, and get ideas for more.

NONE of this need be wasted!

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
35. The question the poster should have asked is why the media is in the tank for Republicans?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jul 2022

The answer has to do with money. The big donors to Republicans are also the big advertisers. They leverage the media to report what they want reported and how it is reported with their ad dollars. Also, the media are the recipients of all of the campaign money.

The other area I strongly disagree with this post is saying Trump is crazy. Trump has a personality disorder, malignant narcissism. He is incapable of empathy, cannot stand being wrong, ever, vain, and can only care about himself. All decisions made by his ego. You cannot treat narcissism because it is not an illness, but who they actually are. Don’t let Trump get off on a mental illness claim!

The rest of the post is spot on!

unblock

(52,320 posts)
38. Crazy isn't in and of itself enough of a legal defense
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jul 2022

The media should have been warning us about his mental defects and consequent unsuitability for public office from the get-go.

In terms of a legal defense, I think he'd need to show he doesn't know right from wrong. Which is not his particular brand of crazy. He damn well knows he cheats and lies. He knows it's wrong and illegal but he knows how to get away with it. Hopefully, that has come to an end.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
40. Spot on! I get rankled when people say Trump is crazy or insane because he is not.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jul 2022

Like you said, he knows what he is doing is illegal and takes steps to hide it. Mentally ill enough to avoid criminal sentencing is where they do not know or understand that what they did was wrong. Definitely not Donald Trump!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
36. MSM got rid of the only "talking head" willing to say these truths on air.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:57 AM
Jul 2022

Keith Olberman is still saying them, but not with the MSM. They are too scared of the truth.

IbogaProject

(2,841 posts)
39. "Iran Contra"
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jul 2022

That whole mess started w a pre-election 'deal' for the hostages to be held. They were released 5 minutes after Regan was sworn in.
https://irp.fas.org/congress/1992_cr/h920205-october-clips.htm
Hitler was funded by Harriman Brothers, with Prescott Bush setting up the total 50 million Reich Marks Hitler was given before he seized power.
The Regressive party has been very wicked from the early 1900s.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
48. Don't forget Nixon sending Kissinger to Paris to negotiate with North Vietam
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:58 PM
Jul 2022

and to derail peace talks with the Johnson Admin before Dick was elected.

JudyM

(29,277 posts)
42. K&R. We play an integrity & intellect game, while they universally cheat and exploit that to shreds.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jul 2022

They beat us, hands-down, on the practical psychology of messaging, and we keep expecting ideas and integrity to win the day, but we are lacking in the message marketing dept.

We can’t stop them from cheating and exploiting. We can communicate far more effectively about that, and about our platforms/principles, to convey the vital significance of the difference between us, which will inspire more passion in November.

IronLionZion

(45,528 posts)
44. Republicans stopped being conservative long ago
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jul 2022

Restricting individual rights. Oppressing people they don't like isn't conservative.

No one in the media will acknowledge it.

Quanto Magnus

(899 posts)
49. Yes!
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:12 PM
Jul 2022

I've stopped calling any 'conservative' a conservative....

They are REGRESSIVES

Their philosophy is not conservation *(never has really)...... It's all about regressing our society as far as they can take it...

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