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RAB910

(3,501 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 12:45 PM Jul 2022

NC- White police force quits, refuses to work for a black woman

Less than a week after the entire police department in Kenly, N.C., announced their resignation, citing a “toxic” and “hostile” work environment, elected officials from the town of about 2,000 residents have gone silent on a plan for law enforcement moving forward. The July 20 mass resignation of the department’s police chief, four full-time officers and two town clerks, who are all white, came less than two months after the town hired a new town manager, who is Black, leaving many critics to question whether race was at the core of the department’s sudden collapse.

Justine Jones, who has worked for 16 years in local governments in Minnesota, Virginia, South Carolina and North Carolina, was selected to be town manager after a "nationwide search" of 30 candidates, according to a town press release. She began the job on June 2.

Kenly is 36% Black, 20% Hispanic and 36% non-Hispanic white.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/a-north-carolina-city-hired-a-black-town-manager-then-its-entire-police-force-resigned-224423896.html
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NC- White police force quits, refuses to work for a black woman (Original Post) RAB910 Jul 2022 OP
Yeah it's definitely not about race. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #1
In an odd way DakotaSnow Jul 2022 #27
Oh I agree the outcome is the best possible thing that could have happened for the city. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #31
Well aren't they special. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #2
Time to hire 8 new Officers. aeromanKC Jul 2022 #3
Yup. milestogo Jul 2022 #4
FAR MORE such monsters should vacate the stage and crawl the fuck back under their rocks. RobertDevereaux Jul 2022 #5
Hire new staff and investigate closed and cold cases. Marcuse Jul 2022 #6
yeah, it's scary to think just how much abuse of power has gone on in this department RAB910 Jul 2022 #7
The town's police chief was a special guest on FOXNews last night (Ingraham show) Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #8
Reading the title- "of course he was" FOX "news" is the racist channel of choice RAB910 Jul 2022 #10
He is suing the town over his CHOICE Bettie Jul 2022 #23
...in a 60% non-white community. Iggo Jul 2022 #9
Kenly is according to the 2020 census a minority/majority town peggysue2 Jul 2022 #11
The previous Town Manager was also Black MichMan Jul 2022 #12
So? Misogyny is better than racism somehow? Why defend them? n/t FSogol Jul 2022 #13
I dont automatically accuse people of racism with zero proof MichMan Jul 2022 #15
you didn't exactly tell the whole story RAB910 Jul 2022 #18
And that proves they are racist...? MichMan Jul 2022 #20
resigning enforce when a black woman takes over sure seems that way RAB910 Jul 2022 #21
Interferes with the narrative Sympthsical Jul 2022 #22
Unfortunately that is par for the course here way too often MichMan Jul 2022 #30
If I were a speculating person Sympthsical Jul 2022 #32
Good riddance. Request help from state police until a new force can be hired. n/t FSogol Jul 2022 #14
Transfer her from town to town - clean house lame54 Jul 2022 #16
Great idea elias7 Jul 2022 #25
Does this town have a bank? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2022 #17
Gee inthewind21 Jul 2022 #19
The previous town manager was black also. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #24
Fine and dandy... BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #26
If ads I see on Facebook are any indication, I'll bet they have no problem finding work. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2022 #28
She found some shit and they all quit nt eleny Jul 2022 #29
 

DakotaSnow

(51 posts)
27. In an odd way
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:05 PM
Jul 2022

I'm kinda OK with this. They just self-identified as individuals you don't want on a police force, quit, and the town can now hire in people who better represent the town. A fresh start from scratch. The silver lining is this is a golden opportunity.

onecaliberal

(32,852 posts)
31. Oh I agree the outcome is the best possible thing that could have happened for the city.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jul 2022

They can hire competent people there to do a job.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
8. The town's police chief was a special guest on FOXNews last night (Ingraham show)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

From the little I was able to stomach, the police chief is suing the town?

Laura Ingraham is shocked, just shocked, that these white policemen should have to take orders and criticism from a black woman.

Look for the police chief to become a new RW media star.

We are living in interesting times.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
11. Kenly is according to the 2020 census a minority/majority town
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jul 2022

Whites represent less than 50% in a town of approx 2300 people. This, I suspect, is a battle against the present and the future. Not only is Justine Jones of mixed race but she's a woman, a double whammy to fragile, police culture egos.

Demographics is playing a big part in right-wing discourse and panic modes, the whole replacement theory discourse.

Solution?

Replace the police chief and officers.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
15. I dont automatically accuse people of racism with zero proof
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jul 2022

It seems to me that for multiple people to all quit at once, there may be other factors, other than race or misogyny at play.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
18. you didn't exactly tell the whole story
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jul 2022

there was a town manager who was black (and corrupt as sin) who the police supported and tried to cover up his crimes for, but he left back in 2020

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
21. resigning enforce when a black woman takes over sure seems that way
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jul 2022

not sure what essentially amounts to the "some of my best friends are black" defense is going to offer much in the way of cover

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
22. Interferes with the narrative
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jul 2022

I am super curious about this. As you noted, they didn't have a problem with the previous black town manager.

What I want to know - because I'm a stickler for information - is what the conflict is about. Did she implement new oversights? For example, did she mandate body cams when they didn't have them before? What were her asks that they feel so strongly against that they're resigning?

No one is talking, so it's impossible to understand what motivated it. Literally the only information given in the article is race, so that's what we're going with here.

I wonder if she was introducing reforms, and the department balked. Reading between the lines, it certainly sounds like something like that. If we had that information, we could better determine if and to what extent the police are being total shitheels.

But without any information whatsoever to go on. "Fuck it. They're racists." I mean, maybe. But why her and not the previous manager? What's the story here?

People are so incurious to learn any further about a narrative they were just so overtly and blatantly spoon fed.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
30. Unfortunately that is par for the course here way too often
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jul 2022

Ordinarily, without knowing the race of anyone involved, a mass resignation of employees would be taken as clear proof that the manager was a bully and the employees would be praised for standing up to "the man"

Switch the races around, and the manager would be the one accused of being a racist white supremist, while the police would be lauded for their courage for refusing to work for an oppressive bigot.

No one knows what led to a mass resignation in this case, but generally those occur very infrequently, and are quite unusual. Almost always it indicates a management problem, as long term employees don't ordinarily all quit their jobs because they are wrong and the new boss is right.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
32. If I were a speculating person
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jul 2022

Given the new manager's experience and the geographical location of her previous jobs, she wanted to introduce reforms on a location/system that was perfectly content with the way things have always been done. Even though, as the article cites, the Black community there was not necessarily all that happy with the way things were always done.

So she comes in with some pretty abrupt changes, they don't like it, and it goes south fast.

There's actually a very similar situation happening in San Francisco at the moment. Chesa Boudin, the DA, was recalled, and the mayor appointed Brooke Jenkins, a black woman, to replace him until the next election.

Well. It has gone full on cage match.

https://news.yahoo.com/san-francisco-district-attorney-cleans-214229501.html

Jenkins wants to change the way things are done in the office, and she's not using a light touch. However, no one's implicating her race or sex in it. There are two very opposing views within the DA's office about how crime and justice should function. It's been a total brawl, and progressives are not necessarily siding with Jenkins on this.

This story brought that situation to mind. When the new boss and the old employees have very different ideas of how things should be, things can fall apart quickly.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
28. If ads I see on Facebook are any indication, I'll bet they have no problem finding work.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jul 2022

Also, the pensions are probably underwritten by the state or otherwise carry over.

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