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Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:20 PM

Newsmax Host Suggests School Shootings Due to Unarmed Kids

A Newsmax host seemed to suggest Friday that recent school shootings are the result of students not bringing guns to class, saying that when children did so decades ago there were “no mass shootings” and “no problems.”

Carl Higbie, in an interview with Rep. Greg Steube (R-FL) focusing on the assault weapons ban that passed the House earlier in the day, showed a clip of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) criticizing the methods that “some totally irresponsible people” use to train their young children in firearms usage. Higbie took offense at her remarks.

“I’d say it’s about a hundred years ago, these so-called toddlers and 8-, 9-, 10-year-olds used to carry guns to school as a completely normal thing in a lot of areas of the country–and probably even more recently than a hundred years ago. No mass school shootings, no problems,” Higbie claimed sweepingly, to which Steube agreed.

Higbie, who worked for a Super PAC that supported Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, also boasted that he taught his 9-year-old how to use an AR-15.

“Do you think that guns, as Nancy Pelosi says, are really the problem?” asked the Iraq War veteran and 2014 Connecticut congressional candidate.

“Of course they’re not the problem,” replied Steube, who, as a sign of his devotion to the Second Amendment, couldn’t help but show off his gun collection during a House Judiciary Committee hearing last month on gun reform.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsmax-host-when-kids-used-to-carry-guns-there-were-no-school-shootings?ref=home

Let's talk about irresponsible journalists

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:23 PM

1. These propaganda shows should not be allowed to use the moniker 'NEWS'

They are anything but....

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Response to spanone (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:28 PM

2. Pretty much applies to all of the major "news" channels.

Most of their engagement & programming is op/ed - with a few daytime exceptions.


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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:30 PM

3. 7 Opinions That Cost Former SEAL Carl Higbie a High-Powered DC Gig

https://www.military.com/undertheradar/2018/01/24/7-opinions-cost-former-seal-carl-higbie-his-high-powered-dc-gig.html



Just one year ago, Navy veteran and former SEAL Carl Higbie interviewed to be and was under serious consideration as President Trump’s press secretary before he lost that job to fellow Navy man Sean Spicer. Higbie did land a high-profile gig as Chief of External Affairs at CNCS, the Corporation for National & Community Service. That’s the agency that oversees public service projects like AmeriCorps and Senior Corps. But he resigned from that position last week amid a furor over recently unearthed comments he made in recent years. After he completed his military service, Higbie ran for Congress in Connecticut in 2014 and was an active commentator on conservative media. It was that career that came back to cause him trouble. On Friday, a CNN KFile story compiled a few of the statements he made during his commenting appearances and Highbie promptly resigned from his CNCS post. He then took to Twitter for a public apology.



Here’s a question: if those words don’t represent who he is or what he stands for, was Higbie just clowning for a paycheck, saying outrageous things to “build the brand” in conservative media? Or did he believe these things when he said them and now he’s sorry that everyone knows what he thinks? Here are a few things that U.S. Navy veteran Carl Higbie said:

1. On PTSD

On Sound of Freedom radio in February 2013, he embraced some surprising opinions about military veterans struggling with post-traumatic stress as he talked about a military member named Brandon: "Yeah I'm a gonna go out on limb here and say, a lot of people are going to disagree with this comment. But severe PTSD, where guys are bugging out and doing violent acts, is a trait of a weak mind. Now things like Brandon, where he was legitimately blown up and a loud noise makes him on edge -- completely understandable, but when someone performs an act of violence that is a, it is a weak mind. That is a crazy person, and the fact that they're trying to hide it behind PTSD makes me want to vomit." On the Women Patriots Blog Talk Radio show in August 2014, he followed up by saying this: "I'd say 75% of people with PTSD don't actually have it, and they're either milking something for a little extra money in disability or they're just, they honestly are just lying. Twenty-five percent legitimately do have problems. They have bad dreams. They can't cope. They have problems with noises and things like that. And I really think there are people that cannot deal with the stress of combat and some people can."

2. On Undocumented Immigrants

In a February 2013 episode of "Sound of Freedom," Higbie asserted 2nd amendment rights for U.S. citizens confronting undocumented immigrants. "What's so wrong with wanting to put up a fence and saying, 'hey, everybody with a gun, if you want to go shoot people coming across our border illegally, you can do it fo' free?’ And you can do it on your own, and you'll be under the command of the, you know, National Guard unit or a Border Patrol, I think stick a fence six feet high with signs on it in both English and Spanish and it says 'if you cross this border, this is the American border, you cross it, we're going to shoot you.'"

3. On Gay Americans..........

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:35 PM

4. Maybe they should change their name

to NOISEMAX

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:40 PM

5. Now you're talking

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:40 PM

6. It's a common argument made

Basically, if we taught gun safety from an early age, kids would be more respectful of the power of guns, and less likely to use them irresponsibility. The reference to guns being brought to school in generations past is when kids would bring their guns for ROTC classes or hunting guns because they'd be hitting the woods right after school got out. This was still a thing when my dad was in high school in the 70's. A 17-yr old with a gun rack in his truck in the school parking lot wasn't uncommon.

That's how I was raised, to respect firearms as a powerful tool, NOT a toy, and that's how I'm teaching my daughter when we shoot together. I think there's something to it.

Of course, the argument goes out the window when the parents are themselves completely irresponsible with their own firearms, leave them lying around loaded, and and treat them like toys. You've got absolute imbeciles with arsenals, raising kids to do the same.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:47 PM

7. My great granddaughter just turned six

and will be starting first grade this year. I guess we need to accelerate her AR-15 training. We lived in terror when she had to attend day care unarmed.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:51 PM

8. TLDR since Newsmax, but responding to the heading: That IS 1 way to look at it?

Are they in a contest to out DUMB each other?

Just picturing their sick DUMBPOOL.


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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:54 PM

9. "Of course they're [guns] not the problem"

In the only civilized country with this problem, how could the ridiculous proliferation of guns possibly be the problem? Steube can't say what the problem is, but he's absolutely sure it's not guns.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 04:41 PM

10. Decades ago they maybe had a 22 rifle or shotgun

not an AR15.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 05:18 PM

11. This happened eight years ago. Higbie you dolt.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 06:37 PM

12. Just For Context

After a short-lived peak after the man baby threw a tantrum about Faux, NM has settled in at about 100,000 viewers.
BTW: Their website claims 740,000 viewers and calls CNN a laggard.
https://ctv.kwayisi.org/networks/nmax/
Apparently, they don't know there are organizations that follow TV channel ratings as their job.
A 7.4x lie? Not too big a lie for them, obvi9usly.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 06:38 PM

13. Yeah, it's the victims that are the problem!

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 06:40 PM

14. In addition to the "the rest of the world has mentally ill people and violent video games" argument,

the rest of the world's schools have unarmed kids, and this doesn't happen in those other countries.

So what's the common denominator?...



Hint:


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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 06:44 PM

15. My dementia must have crept up on me silently

I went to school in the USA, except for some time in Spain, and I had COMPLETELY forgotten that we all carried guns to school in the 1960s and 1970s.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2022, 02:25 PM

16. I Wish I Had Carried a Gun to School

Maybe then the bullies would have left me alone.

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