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Jilly_in_VA

(10,008 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 09:44 AM Aug 2022

Prison Cells Can Reach Nearly 150 Degrees in the South

Summers in the U.S. have been getting hotter year over year—and more dangerous as a result.

But very few Americans have to face the heat with next to no relief options like the country’s incarcerated population. Record-breaking temperatures can quickly become a health risk for the largely Black and Brown incarcerated population, particularly in the South.

Little has been done by U.S. prisons in recent years to combat their readiness for heat waves. In Texas, where just 20 percent of prison units in the state have air conditioning, cells regularly reach temperatures as high as 110 degrees, with some cells getting as hot as 149 degrees, according to a study released by the Texas A&M University Hazard Reduction and Recovery Center earlier this month. In Florida, where just 24 percent of prison units have air conditioning, prison reform activists recently told the Orlando Sentinel that cell temperatures exceed 100 degrees. And in Arizona, where temperatures as high as 120 degrees can result in the cancellation of flights, inmates were left outside to bear the brunt of it.

Texas, Arizona, and Florida are just three of 13 states that don’t have universal air conditioning in their prisons, according to the Prison Policy Initiative: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. Without air conditioning, which is mandatory in order to live comfortably in many of these states, inmates exposed to the heat for long periods of time can suffer from potentially fatal heat strokes, according to the Initiative, as well as adverse effects on their kidneys, liver, heart, and brains.

The effects that the grueling conditions of these prisons can have are made worse by the mandatory labor many of its inhabitants are forced to take part in, Jamila Johnson, deputy director for the Promise of Justice Initiative in Louisiana told VICE News.

“In the course of their day, there are people who are fully working in the fields, they're working in prison enterprises, working to make tags for license plates, doing other manufacturing work, working in kitchens,” Johnson said. “Those are our grueling jobs in the best of conditions.”

Working through the heat has always been a risk for American laborers. Between 2011 and 2019, at least 344 American workers died of heat stress in the U.S, according to the U.S. Department of Labor, with the agency adding that the figure is likely underreported.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bbba/prison-cells-can-reach-nearly-150-degrees-in-the-south

This constitutes torture. And you also know that prison medical neglect is one of my hot buttons....

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Prison Cells Can Reach Nearly 150 Degrees in the South (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Aug 2022 OP
Dogs can't be left in cars because of temps like that. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2022 #1
Kids, too. Brother Buzz Aug 2022 #3
Oh my god. femmedem Aug 2022 #2
Texas prisons must install air conditioning douglas9 Aug 2022 #4
Air conditioning an existing prison is not cheap. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #5
149 degrees is a heat index based on an likely erroneous outdoor temp of 114 degrees at 11:30 am. LeftInTX Aug 2022 #7
Thanks. "Feels Like" temps make me nuts. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #9
Unfortunately prisons are "closed systems" where AC is really the only option. LeftInTX Aug 2022 #10
I'll concede that. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #11
Class action lawsuits are the only solution LeftInTX Aug 2022 #8
Another reason for prison reform. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #6
It's like they do it intentionally RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #12

Brother Buzz

(36,475 posts)
3. Kids, too.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 11:43 AM
Aug 2022

California law lets people smash a window to save animals trapped in parked cars.

Thank you Jerry Brown

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
2. Oh my god.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 11:25 AM
Aug 2022

That's horrific. People must have already died due to these conditions. And the people responsible should be criminally charged and sued.

I hope this gets wide attention and that conditions change as a result.

douglas9

(4,359 posts)
4. Texas prisons must install air conditioning
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 11:50 AM
Aug 2022

Each year, summer poses an increasingly cruel and unjust punishment on incarcerated Texans without access to air conditioning.

Inside the 70% of prisons without air conditioning in living areas, people frequently find themselves living in 110-degree air including humidity, according to data collected in Texas A&’s report on extreme temperatures in prisons.

This is inhumane and unacceptable.

Texas knows about our prison heat problem. The legislature has tried to pass funding to install enough air conditioning to rectify sustained civil rights violations happening to thousands of people under state custody for years. But it has failed to do so in a majority of its units.

And, frustratingly, we are left to say this again. The state must act to cool its prisons to 88 degrees or lower, as a Texas judge recommended. Brutal, torturous conditions that we would not accept for animals in shelters cannot be accepted for human beings, without regard to their criminal history.

A&M’s report, which collected stories from over 300 prisoners in collaboration with Texas Prisons Community Advocates from 2019 to 2020, further reveals the dire circumstances


https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2022/07/20/texas-prisons-must-install-air-conditioning/

maxsolomon

(33,418 posts)
5. Air conditioning an existing prison is not cheap.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:03 PM
Aug 2022

Does the article say how many prisoners die each year from these conditions? The # needs to be significant, because installing AC in decades-old prisons is way down the list of priorities for GQP state legislatures.

Even many DUers think prisoners deserve to suffer.

LeftInTX

(25,587 posts)
7. 149 degrees is a heat index based on an likely erroneous outdoor temp of 114 degrees at 11:30 am.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

It was based on an outdoor temp of 114 degrees at the Hutchins Unit in Dallas County at 10:30 AM on July 19, 2011 but when I looked at the actual temps that day the official high was 100 degrees. Additionally afternoon temps outside the prison were lower than morning temps.

I believe the afternoon temps and their heat indexes to be more accurate

The afternoon heat indexes on that day are very typical.

Anytime outdoor temps are above 90 degrees, it's pretty dangerous in most Texas prisons






https://law.utexas.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/2014-HRC-USA-DeadlyHeat-Report.pdf



https://tamucoa-juiceboxinteract.netdna-ssl.com/app/uploads/2022/07/22-01R.pdf

149 degrees grabs headlines, but the real story is the chronic conditions with heat indexes between 110 and 120 degrees.

The only solution to all of this are class action lawsuits. Texas prisons are dangerously hot

The number of prisoners who actually die from heat is probably not a good indicator. I think the issue is long term health of the inmates. If you're stuck with heat index temps between 110 and 120 for 3 months out of the year, what does that do to your health?? You can't exercise. All you can do it lay around.

maxsolomon

(33,418 posts)
9. Thanks. "Feels Like" temps make me nuts.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:13 PM
Aug 2022

Still, that's fucking miserable.

Lots of people need AC, not just in prisons. The more AC we use, the more fossil fuels we use, the worse the ACC, the more we need AC.

The Great Circle of Anthropogenic Climate Change.

LeftInTX

(25,587 posts)
10. Unfortunately prisons are "closed systems" where AC is really the only option.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

I do spend time outdoors in the heat.
It is probably a safer option that leaving inmates indoors.
At least there is a breeze.

It is also possible to use huge blower fans in outdoor areas.

maxsolomon

(33,418 posts)
11. I'll concede that.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:21 PM
Aug 2022

There are several types of institutions that need artificial cooling: hospitals, for one.

We've built too many buildings that defy the climate instead of adapting to it.

LeftInTX

(25,587 posts)
8. Class action lawsuits are the only solution
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:09 PM
Aug 2022

Last year, the Texas House passed a bill that mandated AC in prisons
The Senate did not pass the bill, so it didn't happen

A class action action suit went to federal court and the conservative 5th Court of Appeals sided with the plaintiffs. A Texas prison was ordered to provide air conditioning. Unfortunately, the case only applied to one unit......

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,466 posts)
6. Another reason for prison reform.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:04 PM
Aug 2022

We already fail to protect prisoners from each other and from vicious guards and wardens. Now we're torturing them with the effects of global heating.

At least dig some underground cells.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,678 posts)
12. It's like they do it intentionally
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:26 PM
Aug 2022

Why is the prison budget last on the list. cause nobody really cares in these states, it's the same reason you can't trust them to handle women's health care choice, they play dirty !!!!

Do you really trust any of the states listed ????

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