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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:55 AM Aug 2022

In re: DOJ Investigation ?

Is there a bigger story than January 6th, electoral fraud, and seditious conspiracy, that they are investigating? What could be bigger?

Some folks have suspected that the Trump crime family has been involved in international money laundering for a long time. Is the FBI investigating other crimes that are not on the radar at the present time? Have they been waiting to gather evidence on the big bust?

Few doubt that there were crimes committed before Donald Trump stole the White House. Was there espionage? Was he working with Russia and Putin? Was he a Russian agent? Nothing sounds too bizarre with this bunch of criminals.

Could it be that the FBI is looking at a much bigger picture than the one we have been discussing?

Or is the truth more than the American people can handle?

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dclarston13

(414 posts)
1. Probably lots of crimes to be uncovered
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

I hope it will turn out like a paint by numbers, the whole picture will be clearer as we near completion.

bucolic_frolic

(43,345 posts)
2. I'd bet on a private espionage network worthy of Reilly, Ace of Spies
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:03 AM
Aug 2022

Sidney Reilly was in the service, at various times, of governments and corporations, particularly oil companies of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Reilly

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. Pin a Crime on the Donkey's Ass
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:05 AM
Aug 2022

When all you do all day, all week, and all your life is criming, and the only reason you've never been held to account is that your money bought you freedom, once the dam breaks, it's pretty much "pick a crime, any crime" for the prosecutors.

My hope is that the first major crime they nail him with disallows holding office ever again. Let's get THAT out of the way, THEN let's put him in prison for the balance of his years for the multitude of crimes he committed before our very eyes.

Irish_Dem

(47,492 posts)
4. We cannot assume the FBI is investigating anything.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:06 AM
Aug 2022

We know they have looked the other way repeatedly when it comes to the GOP.

And yes of course. The Trumps are a crime family and committed many crimes.

We may never know the full extent.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
11. After hearing Wray on TV, I have lost faith in the FBI.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:22 PM
Aug 2022

How many in the military would like to see fascism?
How many in law enforcement, both local and national, would like to see fascism?
How many other three initial agencies would like to bring about fascism?
How many idiotic politicians would like to see fascism?
How many of your neighbors are too stupid to understand the consequences of fascism?
Are the cards stacked against us? Let’s pray not.

And then there’s us. There are more of us than them. We’ve proven that in the past. Do we need to step up this game to counterbalance authoritarianism? If so, when? After it’s too late?

Irish_Dem

(47,492 posts)
12. A big portion of the US government, military and public have gone to the dark side.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:41 PM
Aug 2022

Oligarchs included here as well. The don't want to pay taxes or fund programs good for the American people.

And a big chunk of the American people are fine with fascism as long as it means white, male christian minority rule.

Scrivener7

(51,025 posts)
5. That stolen election was six years ago. I doubt Wray is looking into anything about it.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:26 AM
Aug 2022

And, to answer your questions about whether there was espionage or was he working with Putin, yes of course. We know this. The Cambridge Analytica story shows it incontrovertibly.

And BTW, Facebook was the broker of that relationship of Putin and tfg through Cambridge Analytica. And Facebook knew exactly what they were doing while they were brokering that relationship.

All of this has been out in the open for years. But I imagine someone will tell me it is not a Law and Order episode and there are double-secret-probation investigations happening right now.

But, frankly, that's nuts.

Scrivener7

(51,025 posts)
8. Oh, definitely! There are documentaries out there on the Facebook/CA debacle
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 10:39 AM
Aug 2022

and STILL that is very little understood. I can't even imagine what we don't know!

Once when I mentioned Facebook/CA, a DU poster - A DU POSTER! - said to me, "What's the big deal about that? They did a questionnaire and then sent political posts to those who answered!"

After I stopped crying, I told the poster what happened in a nutshell. The poster said he didn't believe it. I sent that poster the documentary that explains "what the big deal" is. With the hidden camera admissions from the horses' mouths. The poster replied by saying they would rather not watch the videos and I should summarize them for him

A DU poster. SMDH.

gab13by13

(21,425 posts)
6. Is Russia involved? Mueller already proved they were involved, even indicted them.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:38 AM
Aug 2022

Is DOJ looking into it? DOJ is looking into the investigation of Russia's involvement, to indict people for investigating Russia's involvement.

I will be happy to have DOJ indict the domestic traitors.

Ohio Joe

(21,769 posts)
9. My guess...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 10:45 AM
Aug 2022

Right now I think the real active investigations are:

1 - 1/6, something along the lines of seditious conspiracy... Other crimes surrounding it. I'm not certain what the exact charges will be.

2 - Fake electors. The second of the major investigations that could lead to serious (meaning jail time) criminal charges.

3 - Misuse of various 'defense' funds. Defend by building the wall, defend him against criminal charges, etc. I don't think this one is to actually get any additional jail time but rather to syphon off large amounts of time and money from tfg while he tries to fight of the criminal charges.

There are other things like the secret documents that could also be used to syphon off time and money that they might seriously pursue but I think 1 & 2 above are the main focus with the resources they have. I also have zero doubt that other crimes have shown themselves to be prosecutable if time and resources were available to put into investigating them, so they are put on the board with a pin, holding them for later when such things are available.

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