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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn re: DOJ Investigation ?
Is there a bigger story than January 6th, electoral fraud, and seditious conspiracy, that they are investigating? What could be bigger?
Some folks have suspected that the Trump crime family has been involved in international money laundering for a long time. Is the FBI investigating other crimes that are not on the radar at the present time? Have they been waiting to gather evidence on the big bust?
Few doubt that there were crimes committed before Donald Trump stole the White House. Was there espionage? Was he working with Russia and Putin? Was he a Russian agent? Nothing sounds too bizarre with this bunch of criminals.
Could it be that the FBI is looking at a much bigger picture than the one we have been discussing?
Or is the truth more than the American people can handle?
dclarston13
(414 posts)I hope it will turn out like a paint by numbers, the whole picture will be clearer as we near completion.
bucolic_frolic
(43,345 posts)Sidney Reilly was in the service, at various times, of governments and corporations, particularly oil companies of the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Reilly
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)When all you do all day, all week, and all your life is criming, and the only reason you've never been held to account is that your money bought you freedom, once the dam breaks, it's pretty much "pick a crime, any crime" for the prosecutors.
My hope is that the first major crime they nail him with disallows holding office ever again. Let's get THAT out of the way, THEN let's put him in prison for the balance of his years for the multitude of crimes he committed before our very eyes.
Irish_Dem
(47,492 posts)We know they have looked the other way repeatedly when it comes to the GOP.
And yes of course. The Trumps are a crime family and committed many crimes.
We may never know the full extent.
Firestorm49
(4,037 posts)How many in the military would like to see fascism?
How many in law enforcement, both local and national, would like to see fascism?
How many other three initial agencies would like to bring about fascism?
How many idiotic politicians would like to see fascism?
How many of your neighbors are too stupid to understand the consequences of fascism?
Are the cards stacked against us? Lets pray not.
And then theres us. There are more of us than them. Weve proven that in the past. Do we need to step up this game to counterbalance authoritarianism? If so, when? After its too late?
Irish_Dem
(47,492 posts)Oligarchs included here as well. The don't want to pay taxes or fund programs good for the American people.
And a big chunk of the American people are fine with fascism as long as it means white, male christian minority rule.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)And, to answer your questions about whether there was espionage or was he working with Putin, yes of course. We know this. The Cambridge Analytica story shows it incontrovertibly.
And BTW, Facebook was the broker of that relationship of Putin and tfg through Cambridge Analytica. And Facebook knew exactly what they were doing while they were brokering that relationship.
All of this has been out in the open for years. But I imagine someone will tell me it is not a Law and Order episode and there are double-secret-probation investigations happening right now.
But, frankly, that's nuts.
onecaliberal
(32,916 posts)Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)and STILL that is very little understood. I can't even imagine what we don't know!
Once when I mentioned Facebook/CA, a DU poster - A DU POSTER! - said to me, "What's the big deal about that? They did a questionnaire and then sent political posts to those who answered!"
After I stopped crying, I told the poster what happened in a nutshell. The poster said he didn't believe it. I sent that poster the documentary that explains "what the big deal" is. With the hidden camera admissions from the horses' mouths. The poster replied by saying they would rather not watch the videos and I should summarize them for him
A DU poster. SMDH.
onecaliberal
(32,916 posts)gab13by13
(21,425 posts)Is DOJ looking into it? DOJ is looking into the investigation of Russia's involvement, to indict people for investigating Russia's involvement.
I will be happy to have DOJ indict the domestic traitors.
Ohio Joe
(21,769 posts)Right now I think the real active investigations are:
1 - 1/6, something along the lines of seditious conspiracy... Other crimes surrounding it. I'm not certain what the exact charges will be.
2 - Fake electors. The second of the major investigations that could lead to serious (meaning jail time) criminal charges.
3 - Misuse of various 'defense' funds. Defend by building the wall, defend him against criminal charges, etc. I don't think this one is to actually get any additional jail time but rather to syphon off large amounts of time and money from tfg while he tries to fight of the criminal charges.
There are other things like the secret documents that could also be used to syphon off time and money that they might seriously pursue but I think 1 & 2 above are the main focus with the resources they have. I also have zero doubt that other crimes have shown themselves to be prosecutable if time and resources were available to put into investigating them, so they are put on the board with a pin, holding them for later when such things are available.