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tblue37

(68,213 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:00 PM Aug 2022

Jonathan Chait: The reason Donald Trump is the first former president to be treated like a criminal

is that he is the first former president who is a criminal.



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New York Magazine
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The reason Donald Trump is the first former president to be treated like a criminal is that he is the first former president who is a criminal. @jonathanchait writes
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Jonathan Chait: The reason Donald Trump is the first former president to be treated like a criminal (Original Post) tblue37 Aug 2022 OP
K&R PJMcK Aug 2022 #1
Pellucidly...! spanone Aug 2022 #2
Bwaaaaah! malaise Aug 2022 #8
Damn straight it tis! spanone Aug 2022 #10
Well....the second....after Nixon MerryHolidays Aug 2022 #3
Technically, he was pardoned, so not... Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #4
I guess Nixon was the smarter criminal Ohio Joe Aug 2022 #11
Yep Rebl2 Aug 2022 #12
He went through Criminal Change Therapy. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #24
Trust me - there were more than two. soldierant Aug 2022 #23
And, of course, the follow-up response is..... MyOwnPeace Aug 2022 #5
It's the vapors. They all have the vapors. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #6
I've seen this act before ornotna Aug 2022 #18
Last Republican President that was not a criminal (as far as I know) was Gerald Ford pecosbob Aug 2022 #7
He did Rebl2 Aug 2022 #14
A president of gravitas and integrity, all in all - although... peppertree Aug 2022 #20
Not an entirely unique perspective bucolic_frolic Aug 2022 #9
Honey Pot Beetwasher. Aug 2022 #15
More of a personal compulsion, I think gratuitous Aug 2022 #25
There is no Other choice if We are to be a Nation of Laws Beetwasher. Aug 2022 #13
President Precedent BOSSHOG Aug 2022 #16
Exactly what I said yesterday. niyad Aug 2022 #17
Yes, magats Chose to Yoke themselves Cha Aug 2022 #19
not entirely true. barbtries Aug 2022 #21
Nixon claimed he was not a crook IronLionZion Aug 2022 #22
How is "I am not a crook !" not a criminal ? RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #26
A lifelong career criminal. dalton99a Aug 2022 #27
He told Harding, Jackson, and Nixon to hold his DIET COKES? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #28

Rebl2

(17,422 posts)
12. Yep
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:35 PM
Aug 2022

made a deal with Ford or the feds to agree to leave the presidency as long as he was pardoned. In other words he said I am guilty.

soldierant

(9,289 posts)
23. Trust me - there were more than two.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:06 PM
Aug 2022

but none to the extent of Trump** until Trump himself.

Also, none that I know of whose crimes threatened to compromise national security and destroy democracy. And I think you can take that to the bank.

MyOwnPeace

(17,446 posts)
5. And, of course, the follow-up response is.....
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:05 PM
Aug 2022

Yes, no President has ever been 'raided' by the FBI because NO PRESIDENT had ever shown cause to make that necessary!!!!

(Gawd, they're SO f-ing dumb.... )

Rebl2

(17,422 posts)
14. He did
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:37 PM
Aug 2022

pardon a president that was a criminal. I know that doesn’t make him a criminal, but I wish he hadn’t pardoned Nixon.

peppertree

(23,132 posts)
20. A president of gravitas and integrity, all in all - although...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:51 PM
Aug 2022

A late friend of mine from California - who got to know many interesting people over the years - assured me that Ford had been cheating on Betty with a mother-daughter team of escorts.

Was it true? We'll only know when we cross over (supposedly) - but can you imagine if that had come out ?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. More of a personal compulsion, I think
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:07 PM
Aug 2022

Everything belongs to Donald in his world. He clearly thought the trappings and privileges of office were for his personal use. The Department of Justice was his personal law firm, and there was never a bill! Talk about being in heaven for the former guy. He could order staffers around, like he always has, but he could also order around military officers, right up to and including generals. And none of them would say "boo."

So why wouldn't he think that all this classified and top secret stuff that crossed his desk wasn't his, too? A lot of people would pay a lot of money to know what's in this report or that white paper. Money that should be paid to Donald because it's his administration that produced it. At long last it looks like he'll be held to account about it.

Beetwasher.

(3,174 posts)
13. There is no Other choice if We are to be a Nation of Laws
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:37 PM
Aug 2022

There is no choice and there is no turning back. Bring it on.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
16. President Precedent
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:32 PM
Aug 2022

But when conservatives lose the next civil war it won’t be a precedent.

It’s fun to type precedent fast with one finger. Thank you President Precedent.

Cha

(316,974 posts)
19. Yes, magats Chose to Yoke themselves
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:49 PM
Aug 2022

to a Flagrant Crook".. and now they're mad said Traitor Crook is Busted!

IronLionZion

(50,840 posts)
22. Nixon claimed he was not a crook
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:53 PM
Aug 2022

Warren Harding claimed his friends were the crooks. but yes, Trump is the worst in recent times

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