How did TFLG get hold of documents in the SCIF?

[G2theD]

The Security Compartmented Information (national security documents) resides in a hardened secure facility called a SCIF.
You are only allowed to view documents if you have proper clearance. They generally cannot be removed from the SCIF, except by very highly security clearance.

I’m sure they can be checked out by the president, but they must be returned by EOD.
Why didn’t they notice immediately that they were not returned?

So how did Trump get these documents?

[Sneederbunk]

1. He had accomplices.

[G2theD]

9. They would have to be employees of NARA.

[NotHardly]

27. THIS ... he's got his little Nazi minion hidden everywhere, time to clean out the gov of these Nazi

[Evolve Dammit]

30. Lots of them in every agency. The coup was closer than we want to think

[Delphinus]

31. You are correct.

And that worries me a lot.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Depends - Extra Large nt

[brush]

20. Exactly. The big question is who got the docs out of the scif...

or copied and boxed them, then smuggled them out of Washington DC and shipped/smuggled them to trump's basement in Florida and stored them...allowed access to them to do whatever trump wanted with them (can you hear me Jared?).

Trump did none of that as he's certainly not capable. He had operatives/help in stealing the docs and possibly disseminating them to who knows who...Putin, Saudis, anyone with interest and enough money for trump to be bothered with.

Inevitable some names will come out as we are not the only ones wondering and asking these questions.

[OMGWTF]

32. Look in Ivana's casket for documents, etc. Srsly.

I've been posting this link a lot lately because there's too much hinky shit and I have learned to assume the absolute worst about Trump and then multiply by ten -- https://politizoom.com/what-the-hell-is-in-ivanas-casket/

First, Ivana is killed (pushed?) two days before the Trump Crime Family are supposed to testify, so that was postponed. Then, she was supposedly cremated yet her casket took TEN men to move. Then her casket is buried on a golf course in what looks like a temporary grave. Most gravesites are covered with grass, not a pile of dirt like a fking dog. And then, exactly two weeks later, that weird, contrived Saudi golf tournament takes place at the same golf course. Seems like it would have been a good time to give the Saudis what they bought for $2B since they were on site. There may be nothing in there -- now -- but this is what I think happened because Donald J. Trump is the worst person in my lifetime. And I'm old.

Hanging is too good for this mofo and the world will celebrate bigly when he's dead. Believe me!

[brush]

33. I like how you think.

"Hanging is too good for this mofo and the world will celebrate bigly when he's dead. Believe me!"

I've been using MFer quite a bit but "Mofo" rolls off the tongue so much better.

[Ocelot II]

3. He had help.

I'm looking at you, Kash Patel.

Also, record-keeping in TFG's White House was so sloppy and disorganized that it would have been easy for him to just walk off with whatever he wanted, and nobody would stop him.

[G2theD]

8. The SCIF is controlled by NARA

So Trump does not have jurisdiction over it. If you check out a document it is recorded and must be retuned by EOD.

[Ocelot II]

10. He'd infected the whole executive branch with his stooges.

Who's to say there wasn't someone in NARA who let him have documents he shouldn't have had, or didn't see to it that he didn't return documents?

[G2theD]

12. That's the only way I think it could happen.

[G2theD]

15. You really can't dismiss someone being "MAGAZED".

They are all nucking futs.

[brush]

35. That would be my guess too...trump moles in NARA.

Somebody got the docs out of the scif.

[tanyev]

4. He just popped a couple Tic Tacs and then grabbed whatever took his fancy.

[SheltieLover]

5. My 1st thought!

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Probably waved off the guard, saying

"I'll take care of it later . . . . "

Maybe a tip (someone else's money, of course).

[Haggard Celine]

7. He had people like Flynn.telling him what documents to ask for

and he put his appointees who were loyal to him into places where they could assist in obtaining the documents. He gave security clearances to people who should not have had them, including his family. He was looking for something in particular, I think. I wonder if he found it.

[G2theD]

11. He would have needed a mole inside NARA.

I hope they are investigating this. I can’t believe they wouldn’t ne.

[Haggard Celine]

18. I think he probably had one there.

He had moles all over the place, and there are still some in there. He shouldn't have been able to do all that he did. Presidents are given a lot of latitude in how they run their administrations, but he should have been stopped when he first let his family members have top clearance. I hope nothing like this ever happens again. It's a security nightmare.

[AntiFascist]

16. Even though Flynn was fired, his top secret security clearance wasn't revoked...

https://theweek.com/speedreads/790815/some-reason-michael-flynn-apparently-still-security-clearance

[G2theD]

19. That's crazy. Then again all magats are crazy.

[Haggard Celine]

21. That right there says a lot.

Do we have any watchdogs that guard our secrets? I always assumed we did, but now I'm not so sure.

[AntiFascist]

22. Whistleblowers reported Flynn's actions to the House Oversight Committee...

as they were acting to transfer nuclear technology to Saudis, but no one seems to remember this!

Flynn-backed plan to transfer nuclear tech to Saudis may have broken laws, say whistleblowers

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/flynn-backed-plan-transfer-nuclear-tech-saudis-may-have-broken-n973021

Here's their report from 2019:

Whistleblowers Raise Grave Concerns with
Trump Administration’s Efforts to Transfer
Sensitive Nuclear Technology to Saudi Arabia

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf

[Haggard Celine]

23. It's obvious to me that Saudi Arabia wants nuclear technology

to build weapons. That country is floating on a sea of oil, so why would they need nuclear technology if not for for weapons?

[AntiFascist]

26. The entire decision to "fund" Trump's presidential run may have been to...

curtail Iranian and Turkish influence in the Middle East, particularly since Iran is now developing nuclear weapons:

This wasn’t the only high-powered meeting that the 59-year-old consultant arranged for MBZ in recent years. In mid 2015 Nader helped convene a yacht meeting in the Red Sea that included the crown prince, his Saudi counterpart Prince Mohammad bin Salman, President Sisi of Egypt, the crown prince of Bahrain, and the king of Jordan. The objective, according to sources who spoke with the pro-Qatari Middle East Eye, was to curtail the influence of Turkey and Iran. It’s not known what was discussed at the meeting, which took place after Trump announced his candidacy that June, but these were the countries that, with the exception of Jordan and the addition of Libya, would form an anti-Qatar alliance in 2017.

Nader’s entrée to Trumpworld started with Prince. The Blackwater founder arranged an August 2016 meeting at Trump Tower in New York between Nader, Donald Trump Jr., and an Israeli social media specialist, Joel Zamel. At that encounter–two months after a notorious Trump Tower meeting at which a Russian attorney offered damaging material on Hillary Clinton–Nader told Trump Jr. that the princes who led the UAE and Saudi Arabia were eager to help his father win the election. Zamel pitched Trump Jr. on a multimillion-dollar social media manipulation campaign run by his company PSY-Group, which employed several former Israeli intelligence officers.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90233994/how-a-secret-seychelles-meeting-signaled-the-uae-pull-in-trump-d-c

[brush]

36. Who is the Nader you're referring to?

[AntiFascist]

38. George Nader...

George Aref Nader (Arabic: جورج نادر, born May 15, 1959) is a Lebanese-American consultant, lobbyist, political adviser, and repeat sex offender. He has REPEATEDLY acted as an unofficial liaison between United States politicians and the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia and as a lobbyist for private security firm Blackwater.

Nader has served as an adviser to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates and as a consultant to Blackwater founder Erik Prince. In January 2018, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigators questioned Nader in connection to suspicions that the UAE had been involved with President Trump's 2016 campaign.[3] In August 2016 Nader met with Donald Trump Jr., Erik Prince, and Joel Zamel, an Israeli entrepreneur and specialist in social media manipulation, to offer help to the Trump team in winning the elections. There are conflicting accounts of whether the close to 2 million dollars Nader paid Zamel after Trump's victory is attributed to that or not.[4] In 2021, Nader pleaded guilty to violating U.S. campaign finance laws by using over 3.5 million dollars to reach out through a front to Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign for the U.S. Presidency.[5]

Nader has had several run-ins with the law over the years related to sexual abuse of children. He was convicted in the 1990s of transporting child pornography publications, and imprisoned in 2003 for sexually abusing ten boys in the Czech Republic.[6] He pleaded guilty in early 2020 to flying a 14-year-old boy from Europe to the US for sex, and transporting pornography depicting child sexual abuse and bestiality.[7][8][9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Nader_(businessman)

[Paper Roses]

13. If he took the documents out, it would be easy to use a copier.

A short time later, return them. Who's to know?"

[G2theD]

17. Round them all up and water board them.

[Mr.Bill]

24. Probably by saying

"I'm the fucking President"

[Ohioboy]

25. Trump has a lot of MAGA accomplices

It's most likely a big reason why Trump and team would like to get information from the affidavit. That way Trump and team would know who among them they can trust, and who needs to be harassed and threatened.

[ashredux]

28. Well the first thing that comes to mind, is classic espionage. Someone was helping

[Martin68]

29. They would have noticed and contacted the president's staff and then they would have been ignored.

It could be that the FBI's investigation started with that information.

[malaise]

34. The same way the Jan 6 seditionists

Got their tours

[jmowreader]

37. He got them out the same way spies get them out of intelligence facilities

Photocopiers are the traitor’s best friend.