FBI searches Trumps home, find documents marked Top Secret.

[fightforfreedom]

FBI now investigating to see if any laws were broken. DUH!!

Top DOJ prosecutors are debating, is stealing Top Secrets documents, obstructing a federal investigation, enough to charge Trump now.

The debate is expected to last at least a year or two.

[Irish_Dem]

1. "When you're a star they let you do it."

[fightforfreedom]

2. In my opinion, the number one reason Trump is not being charged is this.

FEAR!

[Irish_Dem]

3. I think that is part of the equation yes.

Fear of the GOP starting a shooting civil war.

[hadEnuf]

15. The American Civil War was settled 157 years ago. They lost.

Anything now is simply terrorism and we have the resources to deal with terrorism.

[Irish_Dem]

20. They call it civil war, we call it terrorism.

There are many Americans who do not accept the outcome of the last civil war.
They kept fighting.

[hadEnuf]

30. They can call it whatever they want but it is still plain old domestic terrorism.

The country needs to stop playing their framing game and call it what it is.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

10. Already here

The shooting civil war has already started. So far the Confederates are losing. If fear of these cretins is paralyzing it’s guaranteed that the shooting will only get worse. If indicting Trump brings more out in the open open then the easier it will be to dispatch them. Appeasement is not an option.

[GoCubsGo]

4. Please stop referring to that dump as his "home."

It's not his home. It's a hotel/golf club that he rents out. He just happens to stay in one of its rooms whenever he is in town. Which he hasn't been all summer. He's not even legally permitted to use that property as a living quarter. All calling it his "home" does is feed into his play for sympathy, and ignore the illegality of his using that roach motel as such.

The fact that he took classified materials to that shithole, and left them in an unsecured closet, while anyone and everyone was running around there, willy-nilly, makes it even more egregious.

[belpejic]

12. This is absolutely the case

Another example of misleading framing (or should I just say lying) by the media. It's a freaking club where members pay a fee for entry and then get to stay there when they can book rooms. And have you seen the pictures of it on TV? Parts of it are crumbling, with tarps and ladders all over the place. It's the kind of place where I'd immediately put my luggage in the bathtub for fear of bedbugs, which apparently have been a problem at other properties of his.

As the poster said, Merde Lardo is an expensive roach motel that he happens to stay at once in a while, not a "home," and certainly not an "estate." And AFAIK there is some sort of municipal ordinance that forbids him from living there, but not necessarily staying there as a temporary guest.

[GoCubsGo]

26. Trump and his toadies are actually the ones who started calling it his "home."

The rest of the media has been going along with it, mostly out of sheer laziness, rather than intentionally misleading framing of the situation.

When Trump bought that place, he had to sign a covenant stating that he could not use the place as a home, as it is a fucking country club, not a place of residence. The City of Palm Beach has been letting him skirt by, so far. I'm sure he gets away with it, in part, by bugging out for the summer, and heading to his New Jersey shithole.

[FoxNewsSucks]

24. AMEN!

I'm sick of seeing that bedbug palace called his "home". MF45 doesn't have a "home". Closest thing was that garish apartment in Manhattan, and he doesn't even use that.

Fuck him and his whiny ass. And fuck the morons who worship him.

[GoCubsGo]

27. That gilded abominatin has been his home for decades.

It just so happens that his home has been a penthouse apartment, rather than a house. He only left it because he finally realized that everyone in that city fucking hates him and doesn't want to play with him any more. So, he picked up his toys and took them to Florida. He's a big, bloated, thin-skinned baby. Technically, that apartment is still home, whether he lives in it or not. He's just throwing one of his tantrums. If he really intended to leave that eyesore for good, he would have sold it by now. My bet is that he turned it over to Malaria or Barron, in hopes that it won't get confiscated with the rest of his assets when the hammer finally comes down.

[EndlessWire]

31. Actually

Back in 1993, I believe, his original deal with Palm Beach said it couldn't be used as his personal residence. However, after his neighbors complained, the Palm Beach City Council said he could live there.

When he was pRes, they allowed him to have a helipad, with the proviso that it be removed when his term was up, but I don't know if that has been removed.

So, he can live there. He also owns property around Mar-a-Lago.

I don't have links handy, but I discovered this stuff by Googling, "Is Mar-a-Lago a national monument?"

[C_U_L8R]

5. Why aren't they searching his other properties?

And also his co-conspirators? There seems to be ample evidence and justification.

[Eyeball_Kid]

13. By this time, setting up surveillance for ALL of is properties seems a given, and not doing so

would come across as a complete lack of competence. The monster is a national security threat and he should be treated as such.

[Tetrachloride]

6. He needs to be questioned under oath again

[sop]

8. He took the fifth over 400 times the last time.

They should release the video from that deposition.

[Tetrachloride]

9. Indeed ++++

[Tetrachloride]

7. so many allegations and zero indictments

[Stuart G]

11. ZERO INDICTMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. NOT FOREVER..please ..HAVE PATIENCE..PLEASE!!

IF I WERE GOING TO INDICT TRUMP, I WOULD MAKE SURE MY Ts and Xs were perfectly crossed and in perfect order..

New York Atty General is doing that and Garland is too. Be patient. Indictments will come in time. Not just 1, but
a few in my opinion......

[stopdiggin]

14. and again - a post(er) that is eager to tell Garland

exactly how he should be doing the job (together with snark and -- --)

Gee - that didn't take long at all. Quelle surprise!
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[Tacan]

21. Our nation's most sensitive secrets were illegally taken over 18 months ago.

They were stored in an unsecured location where numerous foreign dignitaries frequented. Eighteen months is a lot of time to make digital copies and sell them to the highest bidder. The DOJ knew Trump** took the documents, and that it was illegal. What did the Saudis buy with the $2 Billion? Classified documents? We can't wait 18 months to enforce our laws when the danger is so great.

The fake elector's scheme is another example. These people signed an illegal document, submitted it to Congress over 18 months ago. Not a single one of them have been indicted. Seems like an open and shut case--They signed them!

Garland might be very meticulous, and He might get Trump**, but in the meantime Trump continues to cause trouble. The threat to the FBI, and the rule of law cannot just be ignored. Garland needs to act!

[stopdiggin]

23. and we're back on the

"Garland not doing his job" "Garland needs to act", bandwagon.

So noted.

[EndlessWire]

33. I think you are being unduly harsh.

Look what's happening with Graham. He's busy wiggling out of his subpoena. He's going to get at least some of it quashed. You wouldn't have thought so, given the rules, but there it is. Remanded.

I don't blame these posters one bit for expressing anxiety. If this pr*ck, who is a threat to us all, is allowed to walk away based on the mere notion that crime can be committed simply because he lives there, then, do we deserve a democracy?

I think that Garland paid heed to voices from actual politicians when he did his pressers. But, certainly, it doesn't hurt this board to hear the voices of frustrated citizens who want Trump neutralized. Why are we not allowed to discuss stuff that bothers us? Should any of us be members of the thought police? Except for violating the TOS, why do we get to do this?

You, also, are allowed to talk about it. You just don't like discussions of whether Garland is moving fast enough, or perhaps waiting for Midterms to be over. And, it is so noted.

[dlk]

16. I trust Merrick Garland

As James Carville has said, Garland is a pit viper. Charging a former president is no easy undertaking, especially given the current violent political environment, and the many other considerations. Garland is taking this matter seriously and methodically and I have every confidence that when charges are filed against the former president, Garland will hit a bullseye. He would not have conducted the FBI raid, and all of its attendant political fallout, if the raid was going to be the end of the matter.

Of course, this day can’t come soon enough for any of us but when it does, it will be worth the wait.

[Beastly Boy]

17. Please. please, if you have evidence that the laws were broken, forward it to DOJ immediately!

Include factual references to which laws were broken, by whom, how, when, in whose jurisdiction, and the specifics of criminal intent in each case. Make sure your evidence meets the "beyond reasonable doubt" threshold.

Oh, make sure that your evidence has not already been considered and further steps in the due process of law have not already been taken by DOJ. While you are at it, if you are certain that DOJ has not already done so, help them file all the paperwork necessary to convince judges in proper jurisdictions to convene grand juries, and share with DOJ how you propose to prosecute the matter should the said grand juries find grounds for prosecution.

That might save a lot of debating on DOJ's part. I am guessing at least a year or two.

[Marcuse]

18. Was he told to lock the room only after having refused a request to return the records stored there?

[Emile]

19. Mar-a-lago is a club, not a home! Link below.

https://www.maralagoclub.com/

[AZSkiffyGeek]

28. He has a residence there

Why this is all of a sudden a talking point...

[Emile]

32. Because he had top secret documents in a very unsecure

club where many people come and go. This is not a home by any stretch.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

34. There are bigger issues

Than whether the place someone maintains a residence is their “home”. But keep worrying about the semantics. I’m sure the DOJ and FBI care about whether it is really his “home.”
I’m gonna worry about the next election and not play word games for fake outrage.

[Emile]

35. Fake outrage. . .

[AZSkiffyGeek]

36. Worrying about what a home is

Is fake outrage, yes.
He lives there. He shouldn’t have taken the documents there.
Whether it is a home or club is meaningless.

[Emile]

37. I know who is displaying fake outrage and

it's not me.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

38. You're Concern is noted

I’m sure the DOJ is sweating bullets over the “it’s not really a home!!!!!” Distraction. Enjoy your word games.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

40. Are you saying I'm a Trump sympathizer?

Because I noted that the place someone lives is called a home?
How is he took secret documents to a club less damning than he took them to his home?
You started this “it’s not his home!!!!!!” bullshit, then called me a Trump sympathizer for saying you were making a big deal out of nothing.
Fine it’s a club. Now explain. What difference it makes to this Trump sympathizer.

[Emile]

41. More fake outrage!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

42. That's what "some say"

And I notice that you couldn’t be bothered to explain why taking them to the club was worse than taking them home.

[Wounded Bear]

22. Correction: FBI is investigating if any MORE laws were broken...

[brooklynite]

25. I thought the Armchair Prosecutors were on summer vacation...

[AZSkiffyGeek]

29. Apparently one was...

And during their absence, one of their sparring partners has risen to fill the void...