CNN isn't going GOP. It already was. So is MSNBC. Both enabled RW narratives & causes since

[themaguffin]

their inception.

Most notably the Iraq war and trump, but countless "smaller" things too.

[CrispyQ]

1. The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it. bumper sticker

I like DUer gab13by13's example.

--> Fox News falsely reports that Obama beats his wife.

--> CNN reports that there is no evidence that Obama beats his wife.

--> MSNBC reports that Obama definitely does not beat his wife.

All three are discussing right-wing talking points, instead of democratic accomplishments. The media will help Trump get elected again, if he runs, count on it.

[PortTack]

2. Nailed it....and this is exactly why I refuse to watch

[GoodRaisin]

37. Yes, and it couldn't be more obvious. nt

[Jarqui]

3. The American Oligarchs who sympathize with the GOP

policy of not taxing the wealthy own CNN & MSNBC.

It is in their financial interest to keep the GOP in power.

90+% of the US media is owned by these people.

Democrats have to use social media and other more effective means to reach voters.

If every Democrat flipped one Republican ...

[Tommymac]

14. Yes and no. They depend on the common person to spend spend spend.

A country torn apart by civil unrest and violence IS NOT a GOOD Marketplace.

They know this, and the 1% always try pull their punches to make the ordinary worker feel unthreatened.

However the recent Frankenstein TFG/christofascist movement does not give a shit about the common worker, or profits for anyone but TFG, or any religious morality except to harass, ruin and/or kill ALL non-believers.

I believe the 'mainstream' 1% are trying to have their cake and eat it too, but they have unleashed a power that they cannot possibly control.

They have fucked up big time. The result is TFG, Putin, Ukraine, Brexit, an emergent People's Authoritarian Republic of China, and woke nationalism and hate groups world wide.

The 1% wants to put the genie back in the bottle, but they cannot - the Frankenstein Monster is free and running amok.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

[Jarqui]

31. During the GHW Bush Admin, I participated in a Think Tank

It was on Free Trade.
On one hand, we feared what would happen to the Rust Belt for example and to US manufacturing know how where significant innovation came from the shop floor - that would occur in other countries.

On the other hand, the brains in this Think Tank feared the economic imbalance in the world. Nature had a way to balance extremes over time. They feared the have-nots in the world would rise up and take the wealth if the US did not do more to share it.

The American oligarchs would be wise to fear that. Whether they like it or not, it is nature's way.
What they're up to will not last. People will catch on and get fed up enough to lash out.

The genie in the bottle is controlled by the media which the oligarchs control.
The media made Trump and they can end Trump tomorrow.
That won't end their mistrust, anger, distress, etc they have stirred up.
They'll just misguide it elsewhere.
"Biden's political prosecution of Trump put Trump in jail but DeSantis will pardon Trump if you elect him."

I feel like we are being toyed with.

[Piratedog]

4. We'll I'm sorry. I appreciate MSNBC. I like their shows. I even like mornjng joe

I’m not going to be like the right wing idiots that villify the mainstream media on every occasion. It doesn’t do any good. That’s a trump move and I’m not filling his playbook.

[GuppyGal]

15. Love Morning Joe...LOVE IT

[themaguffin]

29. I'm not "vilifying" anything. Just noting the corporate media is inherently conservative.

[randr]

5. I've been watching them for years

And I am still liberal

[Doc Sportello]

6. This is so far off base it's hard to formulate a response

But I'll try. There are literally more than a dozen reporters and pundits at the two channels who prove every day your assertion is wrong. I could a lot of time and provide links and examples, but this post has zero of that so it would be a waste of time.

[GuppyGal]

16. +1000

[Ocelot II]

7. I don't want liberal media, I don't want conservative media, I want media

that report facts accurately without telling me what I ought to think about them.

[onecaliberal]

9. SO MUCH THIS!

[greatauntoftriplets]

22. And that's what journalism is supposed to be.

[Lunabell]

30. Exactly!

Whatever happened to that?

[LAS14]

36. Absolutely!!! nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. That's a pretty broad brush- MSNBC has changed more than a chameleon in a Skittles factory

Since it first went on the air- FFS, Tucker Carlson and Mary Matalin used to have shows on MSNBC.

Currently, the only RW enablers at MSNBC I’m aware of are Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell. The rest of the on air talent call out the Big Lie, and highlight the current risks to Democracy on a regular basis. Medhi Hasan is hardly someone who “enables RW narratives”.

CNN, on the other hand, is actively courting Republicans; the new CEO has been meeting secretly with Republican lawmakers to find out what changes CNN needs to make in order to get them to appear on the network.

Big difference.

If you can’t see the difference between MSNBC and CNN, and between those networks and FOX, Newsmax and OAN, I can’t help you.

[Tommymac]

18. Good Post. +1 nt

[USALiberal]

10. Proof?????

[lpbk2713]

11. No big loss to me. I never had much use for CNN.

I always got my news and opinion here on DU.

[Bayard]

12. MSNBC

Has the nightly lineup that regularly goes for the jugular--Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow on Mondays, and Lawrence O'Donnell. So far, I've liked what I've seen from Alex Wagner.

[brush]

25. Reid, Melber and Wallace also. It's a wait and see...

for me on Wagner as she kind of indicated she's delve opinion from both sides...something to that effect.

[Elessar Zappa]

13. CNN and especially MSNBC are not rightwing.

They both spend hours every day taking down Republican talking points. That may change on CNN now that there’s a new boss but it hasn’t happened yet, as far as I can tell.

[Tommymac]

19. They have cancelled Reliable Sources.

That is the bellwether of things to come.

[Samrob]

17. I recall that Morning Joe was a fav for Trump and Mika just snarled at the name Hillary.

They try to paint a different picture but if you watched them then, you know they heavily favored Trump.

[Marcus IM]

21. Yep. They were trying to bump their numbers...

... by boosting tRump and having him phone in every day to spew his bigotry and hate and slander.

Apparently there are DUsers who love that.

[cbabe]

20. MSM lives by the ad dollar. The RNC is low on cash and canceling

ads. What will this do to coverage?

[Ocelot II]

23. A lot of cable media aren't presenting straight news as much as op-ed programming.

Fox is entirely that; I don't think they even have an actual news program any more. CNN does straight news sometimes, and they're pretty good with events like natural disasters and plane crashes. MSNBC's evening line-up is entirely op-ed programming with a liberal slant, which is fine to the extent that it counteracts Fox - except that the people who watch Fox don't watch MSNBC or vise-versa. So both networks are just preaching to their respective choirs and not converting anybody. MSNBC doesn't make up facts the way Fox does, so at least its bias is fact-based - but it's still op-ed material. There's nothing wrong with that, except that we always have to watch out for the normal human tendency toward confirmation bias, the unconscious desire to believe information that supports whatever you already believe. We need a neutral media, but nobody would watch it because our confirmation bias makes us feel good.

[ananda]

24. Yeah, I canceled my cable tv several months ago.

And guess what, I don't miss it.

[Kaleva]

34. You've joined the 95% of adults who don't watch cable news

[Polybius]

27. They might now be as liberal as you are...

But they are certainly not conservative.

[musette_sf]

28. As I've said since Lush Rumballs first tainted the airwaves:

There hasn’t been a “liberal media” since Watergate.

[Kaleva]

32. About 1-2% of the adult population watches CNN and MSNBC

[BannonsLiver]

33. All cable news is shit.

[LAS14]

35. ???? I don't think so. nt

[drmeow]

38. American mainstream media

is fascist corporate (Fox), center right corporate (CNN), and center corporate (MSNBC)