I Need Clarification On This: Mar-A-Lago Documents - Tr**p Instructed To Install Lock On Door?....

[global1]

Will someone clarify this for me. I just don't understand this.

Boxes were taken from MAL well before this search (that TFG calls a raid) was conducted.

Then I heard that some government body instructed TFG to install a lock on some door to secure documents. What documents are they talking about?

Did they know that TFG didn't turn over all the boxes and still had some and told him to secure them? Or is this referring to something else?

What is the timeline with respect to the talk of this lock?

The video that TFG wants to release - who shot the video? TFG or the FBI during the search?

For some reason - things are not adding up to me and I must have missed some critical info on this whole incident.

Will someone please clarify all this for me?

[TheRealNorth]

1. The confusion is part of the technique

[Beakybird]

2. Maybe they said, in case there's something else that you couldn't find, put a better lock on the doo

[Irish_Dem]

3. Yep doesn't make sense to me either.

So the FBI tells Trump that he can keep some documents, but he needs to keep them under lock and key.

Which means they must be classified or sensitive, or why else would they care about a lock?

[Ocelot II]

4. As I understand it they were still trying to get the docs back without having to do

what they finally had to do, so they made him lock them up until he either agreed to turn them over or the subpoena was enforced or they seized the documents, as they finally did when he refused to cooperate any further.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Ok that makes more sense.

The time line was not clear to me.

Thank you!

[SheltieLover]

10. They need to stop coddling this criminal.

Treat him like any other citizen.

[Claustrum]

6. From my understanding, after TFG gave the 15 boxes back,

the government found out there is more documents (the ones that's seized after the search) at MAL. That's when the government asked TFG to put a lock on the storage room in the basement to secure those documents. My assumption is that asking for a lock is at the same time when the subpoena is sent to TFG asking for those documents back (total guess and I have no source to back it up).

I've seen reports from the early days of the FBI search that the FBI asked the agents not to record anything in case of leaks. And the TFG lawyer and TFG talked about watching the FBI searching MAL through their CCTV. And the FBI took the CCTV footage, along with previous 60 days, to examine who gained access to those documents during that time.

[Meadowoak]

7. They were never in any basement! They were in a storage

Room in a corridor leading to the pool. Sounds really secure to me.

[Claustrum]

8. Basement or not.

This is a for-profit, open to the public (at least to people that can afford it), golf club. There is no arguing that in any capacity that it is a "safe and secure" environment. Anyone saying otherwise is gaslighting.

I keep hearing excuses after excuses from the GOP and I don't really see any/enough push-back on how unsecure it is that the documents are there and why the documents should be there in the first place.

[brush]

9. Here's a timeline. trump repeatedly didn't cough up...

all the docs he stole from the scifs/WH. 18 months of negotiations failed and the DOJ finally got a search warrant to retrieve them earlier this month.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/timeline-the-justice-department-criminal-inquiry-into-trump-taking-classified-documents-to-mar-a-lago/ar-AA10uxpQ

May 2021

"An official from NARA contacts Trump’s team after realizing that several important documents weren’t handed over before Trump left the White House. In hopes of locating the missing items, NARA lawyer Gary Stern reaches out to someone who served in the White House counsel’s office under Trump, who was the point of contact for recordkeeping matters. The missing documents include some of Trump’s correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as well as the map of Hurricane Dorian that Trump infamously altered with a sharpie pen.

Fall 2021

NARA grows frustrated with the slow pace of document turnover after several months of conversations with the Trump team. Stern reaches out to another Trump attorney to intervene. The archivist asks about several boxes of records that were apparently taken to Mar-a-Lago during Trump’s relocation to Florida. NARA still doesn’t receive the White House documents they are searching for..."

This continues at the link.

[agingdem]

11. no, it makes sense (to me)...

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I think Trump returned the first tranche of documents after he moved the remaining 11 boxes to another location...why? because the remaining boxes were not in the first wave returned to the National Archives, boxes the National Archives retrieved themselves..and only after an informant notified the authorities Trump was in possession of yet another cache of documents, did DOJ counterintelligence agents pay Trump an unexpected visit..the agents knew what they were looking for and where they were hidden ..a subpoena was issued and ignored and that's when it was determined the FBI had to go in with a warrant and seize the documents...

there is no way in hell Garland would have taken the unprecedented step of a search and seizure at Trump's home if the warrant and affidavit were not air-tight, beyond reproach, knowing what chaos Trump and his defenders would unleash on the Justice Department..Garland isn't fighting the release of the affidavit per se, instead he is insisting the names of the FBI agents, informants, and sources be kept secret to protect them (and the families) from Trump's loathsome faithful and his rabid lowlife militia

[Scrivener7]

12. I'm with you. Not much of it makes sense.

Here are more questions:

How did TS/SCI documents make it out of Federal building security pods in the first place?

How did it take a year for the National Archives to alert the DOJ that these most sensitive national security documents were missing? (Apparently the archives alerted the DOJ in February.)

How did it take 6 months for the DOJ to act on that information that these most sensitive national security documents were missing? If tfg was dicking around with our most sensitive national secrets, why was this warrant not served a LONG time ago. Why was there EVER a NEGOTIATION about the return of these most sensitive national secrets? (The only answer that makes sense is that the DOJ didn't know where the documents were. In which case, again, why the hell didn't they??)

Why is the FBI CONTINUING to search for missing documents? Apparently there are still some out there. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2957224

Is EVERY DAMN SECURITY DEPARTMENT in our government now FINALLY doing a risk assessment about this? Apparently a House Committee has just asked for this. They didn't after the archive reported the documents missing. They didn't after the first truckload of documents from Log O' Merde in February was found to contain TS/SCI documents. Why the hell not??