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Swede

(33,254 posts)
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:28 PM Aug 2022

Tweet-He was concerned & told me to avoid houses with black flags bc that meant they will shoot us.

WTF?


"While canvassing a teacher who was out on his porch stopped me to ask what I was doing. He was concerned & told me to avoid houses with black flags bc that meant they will shoot us. I was like seriously?! How is this American. I warned the other canvass team."



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Tweet-He was concerned & told me to avoid houses with black flags bc that meant they will shoot us. (Original Post) Swede Aug 2022 OP
truth OneGrassRoot Aug 2022 #1
I live in FL and have not seen this. lark Aug 2022 #3
I'm also in FL & we had one in our neighborhood... CaptainTruth Aug 2022 #17
Scary! What part of FL? lark Aug 2022 #26
Report them to FBI! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #4
What is the FBI supposed to do? Mariana Aug 2022 #27
Heh.. sounds like 'Niitedayale'... OldBaldy1701E Aug 2022 #14
Report them to FBI! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #2
It's not illegal to fly a black flag. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #5
No it's not, but when it stands for a clear intention to perpetrate violence , I think they might be SheltieLover Aug 2022 #6
No. Unless it's clearly an incitement to *imminent, unlawful and likely* violence Ocelot II Aug 2022 #7
The point might not be to make any immediate arrests Tom Rinaldo Aug 2022 #9
Precisely! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #12
It's not illegal to report 48656c6c6f20 Aug 2022 #10
And what do you think would happen? Ocelot II Aug 2022 #11
It doesn't matter what I think will happen. 48656c6c6f20 Aug 2022 #28
It would be pointless though. Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #13
Some here don't like free speech Kaleva Aug 2022 #24
We have a 3 Percenter in our neighborhood. BMW2020RT Aug 2022 #8
Haven't seen any of those yet. nt doc03 Aug 2022 #15
That stop sign in the picture looks like it's taken more than a few bullet hits. mn9driver Aug 2022 #16
Pretty sure those are raindrops onenote Aug 2022 #20
The more threats the FBI gets... rubbersole Aug 2022 #18
The black flags are UN-American - they were used by the PatrickforB Aug 2022 #19
The Black Plague must be in town. Turbineguy Aug 2022 #21
Disgusting and infuriating Sky Jewels Aug 2022 #22
WTF??? Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #23
lol settle down everyone, this isn't what you think! AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #25

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
1. truth
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:33 PM
Aug 2022

The people flying that flag are announcing that, as soon as their Dear Leader gives the word, they're ready to attack everything Trump hates, and that includes us.

I have a couple around me (suburb of Raleigh NC).

lark

(23,105 posts)
3. I live in FL and have not seen this.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:39 PM
Aug 2022

We walk a lot - every single day - and there are none in our neighborhood. We were in Daytona for a few days and didn't see any there either. Is this a regional thing, hope it is and doesn't spread - how awful!

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
17. I'm also in FL & we had one in our neighborhood...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:58 PM
Aug 2022

...couple years ago. The house was a rental & they didn't stay long, a few months, thankfully.

And yes, from my understanding it basically means "we don't take prisoners," which means no one taken alive, in other words, shoot everyone dead. Only people they don't like, of course.

That's the only one I've ever seen.

lark

(23,105 posts)
26. Scary! What part of FL?
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:56 PM
Aug 2022

I live in the Jax area so hopefully not here, although them being in any part of this country is such bad news.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,130 posts)
14. Heh.. sounds like 'Niitedayale'...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:41 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe Garner. One side of my family is from Fuquay, and I am sure there are more than a few flags there as well.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. No it's not, but when it stands for a clear intention to perpetrate violence , I think they might be
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:28 PM
Aug 2022

interested.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
7. No. Unless it's clearly an incitement to *imminent, unlawful and likely* violence
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:09 PM
Aug 2022

it's protected speech. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969) and Hess v. Indiana, 414 U.S. 105 (1973). Just flying a black flag can mean anything, and there's nothing about it that urges anyone to commit imminent, unlawful violence, nor does it make it likely that it will occur - since it's not explicitly telling anybody to do anything. Arresting someone for flying a black flag is just as wrong as arresting someone for flying a BLM flag.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
9. The point might not be to make any immediate arrests
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:29 PM
Aug 2022

It might be more along the lines of putting them on some kind of "watch list", if things start to heat up people sending signals like that might be subject to increased surveillance of some sort.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
12. Precisely!
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:39 PM
Aug 2022

Who knows how many of those resident's occupants are under some surveillance.

Or how many of those homes are arms warehouses for terrorists?

For me, it goes back to "if you see something, say something."

Campaign workers should not have to put up with this bs.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
11. And what do you think would happen?
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:39 PM
Aug 2022

You: "My neighbor is flying a black flag."
FBI: "That's not illegal."
You: "But it could mean they want to incite violence."
FBI: "What does the flag say on it?"
You: "Nothing, it's just black."
FBI: "Have your neighbors made any threats?"
You: "No, but they have a black flag."
FBI: "Why do you think that's inciting violence?"
You: "I read it on the Internet."
FBI: "Oooohkayyy. We'll make a note of it. Have a nice day."

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
28. It doesn't matter what I think will happen.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 06:08 PM
Aug 2022

I am just pointing out that reporting it isn't illegal. You know like your helpful hint previously. Why you still worrying about it?

BMW2020RT

(139 posts)
8. We have a 3 Percenter in our neighborhood.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:25 PM
Aug 2022

When news of the Mar-a-Lago search broke his Let's Go Brandon banner disappeared in favor of a small U.S. flag and a larger black flag went up too. It is not a black U.S. flag. It has diamond shaped stitching. Those are the only distinguishing characteristics I can make out from the street.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. Pretty sure those are raindrops
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:03 PM
Aug 2022

They are all over the photo, not just the sign.
And that would be a pretty tough stop sign if those "bullet holes" only left a light mark.

rubbersole

(6,696 posts)
18. The more threats the FBI gets...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:59 PM
Aug 2022

the more they're going to pay attention to these psycho fuck ups. Keep waving them flags, Skeeter.

PatrickforB

(14,576 posts)
19. The black flags are UN-American - they were used by the
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:03 PM
Aug 2022

slavery-sympathizing guerillas in Missouri during the Civil War. Quantrill, Bloody Bill and others fought under the black flag and it meant they did not expect quarter and they gave none.

THESE PEOPLE FLYING THE BLACK FLAGS ARE TRAITORS TO THIS REPUBLIC.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
25. lol settle down everyone, this isn't what you think!
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:55 PM
Aug 2022

First off I'd love to know how someone running for office does NOT know the basics of a social justice movement.
That isn't good and stuff like this is exactly how misinformation gets spread quickly.

That is NOT the black flag you're thinking of.
That is an ANTIFA flag! Literally! It's the recognized global symbol of the movement.
It's also a symbol for a legendary punk band. Remember the punk band "Black Flag" with singer Henry Rollins? Ya.
But given this day & age, I'd bet on ANTIFA.



The flag you're thinking of is the black AMERICAN flag.
Which that tweet clearly is not showing a pic of.
This is the flag in question....







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