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Nevilledog

(51,121 posts)
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 01:57 PM Aug 2022

Flying over Miami, where DeSantis is holding a rally



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Ron DeSantis is doing a rally in Miami today and we are flying a banner over the city that says DESANTIS IS A FASCIST. This is how you treat wannabe authoritarians like DeSantis. You ridicule and mock them.


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10:52 AM · Aug 21, 2022
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Flying over Miami, where DeSantis is holding a rally (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2022 OP
I think most of his followers have no idea what a fascism is as they don't read and don't know MLAA Aug 2022 #1
By Jove- I think you seriously nailed it. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #17
I was just thinking that same thing. calimary Aug 2022 #43
I think our messaging would be better to use dictators rather than fascists. MLAA Aug 2022 #45
That's a good idea. calimary Aug 2022 #46
Exactly MLAA Aug 2022 #47
Those people can't explain what a communist or socialist is, NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2022 #2
The best way I have found to shut them up: SCantiGOP Aug 2022 #7
i just tll them they should have paid attention in school moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #14
Cause they weren't woke SCantiGOP Aug 2022 #24
But they do love those big important-sounding words! calimary Aug 2022 #44
I've had several Rs in my red town KS Toronado Aug 2022 #8
This woman is a PERFECT example of that. I mean, all you have to do, in her words, Abolishinist Aug 2022 #13
It's all about the effect of using that word es466 Aug 2022 #19
Same thing with "woke" and "CRT" Wednesdays Aug 2022 #27
"You just study it out' geardaddy Aug 2022 #39
Thank You Florida Protesters Against Cha Aug 2022 #3
I appreciate the sentiment HariSeldon Aug 2022 #4
In Florida, I would think Medicare and SS are bigger and more effective issues... bahboo Aug 2022 #5
IKR? But the Floridiots voted in Rick Scott for Governor and now Senator. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #6
No. You don't deal with fascists by ridiculing and mocking them. SledDriver Aug 2022 #9
this should be good... please clarify. WarGamer Aug 2022 #10
How do you deal with fascists in a democracy? Please tell. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #33
The sign should read: Ron DeSantis, betraying Floridians 24/7 jaxexpat Aug 2022 #11
I unfortunately agree with others. LiberalLovinLug Aug 2022 #12
Now you're just building support for him. JohnnyRingo Aug 2022 #15
I have have a lot of fun with young people who want to end socialism. The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #16
Your last line seems accurate. A 24/7/365 mean-spiritedness if you will, that controls the brain, to Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #18
Mostly it is just a fun exercise helping people to think. The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #20
EXCELLENT talking points! calimary Aug 2022 #21
+1. All of it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #34
It boils down to not wanting to share with The Other. That's why they love National Socialism Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #35
Got that right Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #22
Is DeSaten going kacekwl Aug 2022 #23
Shame none the dopes attending wouldn't know a fascists from the anti-Christ. Proved that with TFG. Pepsidog Aug 2022 #25
DeSantis was in Ohio for JD Vance yesterday. True Blue American Aug 2022 #26
Same in Pa. slater71 Aug 2022 #38
If DeSatan talks like a fascist, and writes like a fascist... sakabatou Aug 2022 #28
DeSantis probably thought it was a compliment from and admirer. Chainfire Aug 2022 #29
I remade a bumper sticker for BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #30
Ridicule and mock them... ultralite001 Aug 2022 #31
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #32
They better be careful. He will have that mutha shot down. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #36
I am afraid this is free advertising for the NatC randr Aug 2022 #37
To his followers that's a feature and not a bug. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2022 #40
A propos of nothing cilla4progress Aug 2022 #41
If I had money I'd totally fly one that says "TP USA IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION". Initech Aug 2022 #42

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
1. I think most of his followers have no idea what a fascism is as they don't read and don't know
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:01 PM
Aug 2022

world history. And the few that do understand fascism like it.

calimary

(81,316 posts)
43. I was just thinking that same thing.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

I bet very few of his followers even know what that word means.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
45. I think our messaging would be better to use dictators rather than fascists.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:15 PM
Aug 2022

However, I have little hope more a few percent of the trumpasses will ever listen to anything other than cult-like personality figures.

calimary

(81,316 posts)
46. That's a good idea.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

Everybody “gets” what a dictator is and what it means.

“Fascist” is just a fancy word that makes you feel smart when you use it, even if you’re not sure what it means.

NameAlreadyTaken

(978 posts)
2. Those people can't explain what a communist or socialist is,
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:12 PM
Aug 2022

so I doubt they would even know what a fascist is. Here's an older example of them throwing around words they don't know the meaning of:

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
7. The best way I have found to shut them up:
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:38 PM
Aug 2022

When idiots call Democrats marxists or communists, I ask them to clarify, since those are theories of economic systems where the private ownership of property is prohibited, and elections are banned in favor of a Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
I then ask them for one citation where the group or individual has proposed that the government seize all private property.

moonshinegnomie

(2,454 posts)
14. i just tll them they should have paid attention in school
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:05 PM
Aug 2022

since the have no knowledge of what the word means

calimary

(81,316 posts)
44. But they do love those big important-sounding words!
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:02 PM
Aug 2022

Cuz it makes them feel smart.

Notice the attempted deflection here. Just repeating the word “Communist” doesn’t mean you know what the word means.

Whoever you are, ma’am, you just proudly displayed your ignorance and a refusal to defend a point you were loudly asserting. You were given several chances to enlarge on your point but all you were able to do was to repeatedly fall back on a one-word label.

And you refused the opportunity to win someone over with an intelligent or enlightening argument. When you fall back on just repeating a big word, and that’s all you’ve got, then all you’re doing is demonstrating how little you actually know.

But it’s f flinging a big important-sounding word around makes you feel smarter than everybody else, go for it. Knock yerself out.

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
8. I've had several Rs in my red town
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:44 PM
Aug 2022

say Democrats are communists and when questioning them get the same vague answers as in your clip.
Be nice if we could convince them MAGAts are Fascists but that would require some critical thinking
skills on their part which seem to be nonexistent with them.

Abolishinist

(1,301 posts)
13. This woman is a PERFECT example of that. I mean, all you have to do, in her words,
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:59 PM
Aug 2022

is 'study it out and you'll see'. Then accuse the one asking the question of not doing their homework.

I really do miss Chris, he was always my favorite and would have been SO good to watch over the last several years.

es466

(114 posts)
19. It's all about the effect of using that word
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:52 PM
Aug 2022

not about any rational argument. Purely emotion-based and about pushing buttons.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
4. I appreciate the sentiment
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:26 PM
Aug 2022

But I agree with other posters that it's not clear enough to the uninformed. I'd prefer "DeSantis: Florida's budding Hitler"

bahboo

(16,343 posts)
5. In Florida, I would think Medicare and SS are bigger and more effective issues...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:29 PM
Aug 2022

the fact that he's a fascist probably makes him more popular with the troglodytes. That being said, good on the protestors...

OMGWTF

(3,959 posts)
6. IKR? But the Floridiots voted in Rick Scott for Governor and now Senator.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:32 PM
Aug 2022

His company paid the largest fine ever for Medicare fraud. Fines schmines. These criminals need to start going to prison. Until they do, the floggings will continue.

SledDriver

(2,059 posts)
9. No. You don't deal with fascists by ridiculing and mocking them.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:47 PM
Aug 2022

There is only one way to deal with fascists.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
12. I unfortunately agree with others.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 02:55 PM
Aug 2022

Kind of a bit of a waste of the money. Not that they shouldn't have, but for one, the DeSantis MAGAts just see another word that means "bad". Oh no...some commie Democrats don't like The Next One.

And DeSantis? He probably is secretly flattered.

He LIKES Fascism. And his closest advisors, along with many in the R party.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
15. Now you're just building support for him.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:08 PM
Aug 2022

DeSantis would put that on his signs if he could. That's what those people want these days, though they may call it something else.

Thanx for posting
K&R

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
16. I have have a lot of fun with young people who want to end socialism.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:29 PM
Aug 2022

I tell them first we end public education. Pay for your own kid and get your hand out of my pocket. Second end the dependent deduction. Third end the mortgage deduction.
You can hear a pin drop.
Everybody wants to end the other guys socialism.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
18. Your last line seems accurate. A 24/7/365 mean-spiritedness if you will, that controls the brain, to
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:35 PM
Aug 2022

take and expect things for themselves, but only themselves and screw everyone else. I've known a few.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
20. Mostly it is just a fun exercise helping people to think.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:53 PM
Aug 2022

In my area educating one kid is 20-25 grand a year.

calimary

(81,316 posts)
21. EXCELLENT talking points!
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:10 PM
Aug 2022

The word "socialism" is toxic. A lot of strategic work has been done to make it that way. So you throw that word around and suddenly people start getting scared that "the Commies are coming!"

I like the way you're simplifying point by point. The knee-jerk response is to the dreaded word, but nothing's presented that explains what the ramifications are.

I don't wanna pay to help you.

Screw you.

You're on yer own!

Grab as much as you can (so the other guy doesn't get any)!

Nobody wants to share anymore, and it's a shame, because sharing is caring.

Sharing is - EVERYBODY gets a chance.

Sharing is caring!

Sharing is helping. And healing.

Sharing is being mindful of others, and what they may need.

Sharing is neither ME FIRST nor ME ONLY.

Sharing is inclusive.

Sharing means EVERYONE has a place at the table.

And for the religiosos out there:
Sharing is what Jesus would want you to do. Cuz that's wha He did.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
35. It boils down to not wanting to share with The Other. That's why they love National Socialism
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:43 AM
Aug 2022

Nazism or National Socialism means sharing among the privileged, and white people are automatically privileged in Nazi states, more or less, since the most privileged are rich old white male party members.

tRump's base, and many others in the Republicon party and the CONservative movement are happy about sharing with privileged whites as they jockey for position in a thugocracy of violent whites. But sharing with people of colour, oh no, they are the dreaded "other" upon whom all problems are blamed so that those whites can scoot away and maintain privilege.

Note: you can drop out of the privileged white class by being disadvantaged from birth or meeting financial disaster (medical bills) or related reasons. In the eyes of the privileged they become "white trash" and don't have to be shared with. A sort of adjunct "other".

Being anti-"woke" means not having to share as much.

slater71

(1,153 posts)
38. Same in Pa.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 08:31 AM
Aug 2022

Would not allow cameras or recording devices. They had their brown shirts patrolling around if you would be caught breaking any of their rules you would be removed immediately.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
29. DeSantis probably thought it was a compliment from and admirer.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 07:52 PM
Aug 2022

He knows that he is a Fascist bastard. His voters don't mind it, because they are too.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
30. I remade a bumper sticker for
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 10:22 PM
Aug 2022

my car with tRump's ugly puss and it says Facsit Liar. Lock him up! and I get lots of positive feedback, but I do live in a blue areas that helps.

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