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Fiendish Thingy

(15,623 posts)
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:29 PM Aug 2022

Emptywheel: Next steps in Trump stolen documents investigation

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/21/next-steps-in-the-trump-stolen-documents-investigation/

A number of people have gotten impatient that the search of the former President’s golf resort has not yet yield an indictment. “If you or I did what he did,” a common refrain goes, “we’d already be in prison.”

I often point to the example of Joshua Schulte, the former CIA coder convicted last month of the Vault 7 and 8 leaks. He wasn’t jailed until almost nine months after the initial search of his apartment, and only then because he violated bail conditions on charges related to Child Sexual Abuse Materials allegedly found on his server. He wasn’t charged on the Espionage Act charges until 15 months after that initial search.

And it sounds like Trump won’t be charged anytime soon. At a hearing before Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart last week, the head of DOJ’s counterintelligence section, Jay Bratt, said the investigation is in its “early stages.” That may suggest that Trump or others are suspected of more than just storing classified information in insecure conditions and refusing to give it back. Perhaps the people entering and exiting the storage closet at Mar-a-Lago did something more than just hide stuff from DOJ. Or perhaps the obstruction investigation — which may be obstruction of this investigation or others — is more complex than we imagine (which isn’t hard, because most journalists are simply ignoring that suspected crime).

Whatever the reason Bratt stated that DOJ will need to do significant further investigation, there are steps that would be required in any case. There are four steps that the FBI would take before considering charges.


Much, much more at link, including details of the likely next steps in the investigation:

Filter Review
Scope Review
Classification Review
Inventory

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Emptywheel: Next steps in Trump stolen documents investigation (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 OP
Thank you. Tick Tock. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #1
It sounds like the DOJ is afraid of Trump Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #2
This Still Comes As A Surprise To Many SoCalDavidS Aug 2022 #3
Not how I read it Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #4
No, they are simply following normal procedures. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #5
+1 Jarqui Aug 2022 #10
Very informative. Thanks for this. K&R crickets Aug 2022 #6
normal procedure has been fucked and its time to fuck back Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #7
well, that's helpful stopdiggin Aug 2022 #8
We don't need no stinkin' due process! Off with his head! If they're pissing on the Constitution Ocelot II Aug 2022 #12
I don't think these people realize that they are stopdiggin Aug 2022 #13
thank you! emptywheel is a solid source stopdiggin Aug 2022 #9
+1 Jarqui Aug 2022 #11
So thorough empedocles Aug 2022 #14
In 15 months, we'll be well into the 2024 presidential election season Poiuyt Aug 2022 #15

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. This Still Comes As A Surprise To Many
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:47 PM
Aug 2022

Every day there seems to be threads about how he's going to be indicted. How he's going to be sent to jail.

I don't expect either of those things to happen, tomorrow, next month, next year, or EVER.

He's ABOVE THE LAW, and he knows it.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,623 posts)
4. Not how I read it
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:48 PM
Aug 2022

If they took 15 months to charge, and even longer to successfully convict Schulte for some of the same crimes listed on Trump’s search warrant, then I would expect DOJ to show the same meticulous process for successfully prosecuting Trump.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
5. No, they are simply following normal procedures.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 05:00 PM
Aug 2022

Read the linked article. That's how it works and why it takes awhile.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
8. well, that's helpful
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 05:49 PM
Aug 2022

So we should not follow SOP and fairly rigorous 'process' on this case?

Gee - bet that'll go over well ... --------- -----

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
12. We don't need no stinkin' due process! Off with his head! If they're pissing on the Constitution
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 05:57 PM
Aug 2022

that means we get to do it too, right?

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
13. I don't think these people realize that they are
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 06:22 PM
Aug 2022
equally dangerous to the system, as those they so ardently and vehemently oppose.

(and then, more chilling still - have to believe that some of them actually do ... )

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
15. In 15 months, we'll be well into the 2024 presidential election season
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 07:03 PM
Aug 2022

If Trump is running, will Garland indict him? My guess is not.

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