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Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:08 PM

Alex Wagner has totally lost a viewer. WTF is she doing trying to act like the college

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loan forgiveness is going to trash the democrats' chances in November? She was all up in arms because Biden (RIGHTFULLY) said MAGAts are trending semi fascists. There's nothing fucking "soft" about it! They are mostly white "christian" nationalists, and they're shooting democrats all over the place!

I can't stand how she was fishing for how badly Joe Biden is doing.

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Reply Alex Wagner has totally lost a viewer. WTF is she doing trying to act like the college (Original post)
BComplex Aug 2022 OP
Murphyb849 Aug 2022 #1
dhol82 Aug 2022 #6
Green Line Aug 2022 #22
BComplex Aug 2022 #7
questionseverything Aug 2022 #45
wackadoo wabbit Aug 2022 #40
Ocelot II Aug 2022 #2
elleng Aug 2022 #3
dchill Aug 2022 #5
BidenRocks Aug 2022 #26
questionseverything Aug 2022 #30
BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #42
Samrob Aug 2022 #57
questionseverything Aug 2022 #69
BComplex Aug 2022 #65
questionseverything Aug 2022 #68
yorkster Aug 2022 #70
BComplex Aug 2022 #71
BlueIdaho Aug 2022 #9
Celerity Aug 2022 #20
BComplex Aug 2022 #72
inthewind21 Aug 2022 #73
BComplex Aug 2022 #74
tishaLA Aug 2022 #33
Hekate Aug 2022 #37
kentuck Aug 2022 #50
inthewind21 Aug 2022 #56
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #4
BComplex Aug 2022 #11
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #13
Sogo Aug 2022 #17
Celerity Aug 2022 #23
BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #44
Name removed Aug 2022 #8
SlimJimmy Aug 2022 #19
Takket Aug 2022 #10
RicROC Aug 2022 #12
mahina Aug 2022 #16
yorkster Aug 2022 #29
txwhitedove Aug 2022 #64
yorkster Aug 2022 #67
BComplex Aug 2022 #66
Deuxcents Aug 2022 #18
CousinIT Aug 2022 #24
ebbie15644 Aug 2022 #27
ebbie15644 Aug 2022 #28
BComplex Aug 2022 #14
brooklynite Aug 2022 #15
BComplex Aug 2022 #21
Abolishinist Aug 2022 #31
BComplex Aug 2022 #32
Abolishinist Aug 2022 #35
BComplex Aug 2022 #36
W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #41
BComplex Aug 2022 #63
Deminpenn Aug 2022 #46
brooklynite Aug 2022 #34
W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #43
Deminpenn Aug 2022 #47
BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #60
PufPuf23 Aug 2022 #51
Treefrog Aug 2022 #76
USALiberal Aug 2022 #25
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #38
USALiberal Aug 2022 #49
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #75
renate Aug 2022 #39
Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #53
Emile Aug 2022 #48
Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #52
BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #54
pwb Aug 2022 #55
BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #58
pwb Aug 2022 #59
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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:11 PM

1. I do not like her show. I miss Ali Velshi.

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Response to Murphyb849 (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:17 PM

6. I do too.

At least Ali didnít put me to sleep.
She seems sincere but just has no dynamic presence.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:51 PM

22. Totally agree with you

Ali is so much better, sheís boring.

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Response to Murphyb849 (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:17 PM

7. I miss Ali, too.

Alex must be trying to impress the overwhelming majority of the republicans that make up the board of directors. Poor Ron Klain was trying to back-step her relentless right wing push, but she just kept coming.

Tim Ryan needs to explain the college loan forgiveness for all the massive interest that so many people have had to pay to go to college. The students didn't just have to pay for school: their loans amount to WAY more than what they originally borrowed, and even Ohioans can understand getting sucked under for debt.

College should be free.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:44 AM

45. Klain was there to defend the administration's policies

Alex was the friendly media serving him up softball questions

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Response to Murphyb849 (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:17 AM

40. Let me join the chorus of those who want Ali Velshi in that slot

He is so, so much better than Alex Wagner and is a worthy successor to Rachel. Wagner is not.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:11 PM

2. I guess I was watching a different Alex Wagner; I didn't get that interpretation at all.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:12 PM

3. Thanks

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:14 PM

5. Right?

There seems to be a predisposure to dislike Rachel's replacement. I may not like everything she does, but I don't fault her motives.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:56 PM

26. This is Jeopardy!

About as tough.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:09 PM

30. Sometimes people seem to feel if the reporter tells what the right is doing

It means they agree with it, which of course is incorrect

Wagner is doing in depth reporting, not cheerleading, which seems to upset some

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:34 AM

42. Spot on.

These kind of threads seem to be proliferating here lately. Interesting.

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:02 PM

57. Sometimes telling what the right is doing give needless life to their antics. We need more

discussion about that the President is actually doing and allow the viewers to decide what they think about what he is doing and not about what the RW-Trumpers think he is doing. If we want to know what they are doing we can always take a look at FOX.

What is heard and repeated often become reality for some people even if it is a lie. Wagner is not the only news host that does this.

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Response to Samrob (Reply #57)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:14 PM

69. No way Fox News is going to go into depth about how repubs are taking over school

Boards

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:34 PM

65. She wasn't telling what the right was doing...which by the way, seeps into everything

so we NEVER wonder what the right was doing...it's the default "reality" in this country.

She was pushing against what Biden & the hundreds of democratic representatives and senators have done with a very accusatory posture and message.

Ron Klain was speechless for a minute there, and VERY much on the defensive.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #65)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:11 PM

68. Klain was on a delay , not speechless

She was giving background and softball questions so the Biden administration could get itís message out

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Response to BComplex (Reply #65)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:22 PM

70. I saw that portion of the show later last night.

Her questions twisted Biden's words and had me wondering if she had listened at all to what he said.
Klain did well, but the whole interview came across as confrontational and misleading on the part of the host.

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Response to yorkster (Reply #70)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 04:04 PM

71. That was what I saw, too, yorkster, and I don't understand the disconnect

represented on this thread. It seems a bunch of us watched the same thing, but only some of us got our radar buttons pushed.

That's just really strange to me!

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:18 PM

9. Me either nt.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:50 PM

20. yes, the hit patrol is out on multiple threads inventing things out of whole cloth once again

smdh

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Response to Celerity (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 04:05 PM

72. That's just your opinion.

And one I take issue with, obviously.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #72)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 04:08 PM

73. And your's

is just yours.

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Response to inthewind21 (Reply #73)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 04:12 PM

74. No, actually it's a very popular position.

There are just as many people here who think she's doing a right wing push, as there are cheerleaders for her like yourself.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:18 PM

33. same nt

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 11:34 PM

37. Same here

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:34 AM

50. Neither did I...

I did not interpret her as doing anything except in-depth reporting?

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:02 PM

56. Right

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:13 PM

4. Oh well. Her hosting does not meet with your approval? Will she lose the election for us?

Not fucking likely.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:21 PM

11. That's not even the point.

There's SO MUCH that is great about what Biden/democrats did in getting that bill passed! She's up there not just whining about Tim Ryan's chances being ruined by it in Ohio, but stating that "BIDEN" made it harder for a lot of races where candidates don't support it. WTF???

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Response to BComplex (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:27 PM

13. So she will lose the election for us?

Maybe we should get the fires underway.....

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Response to BComplex (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:39 PM

17. Uh, Tim Ryan has come out in opposition to the loan forgiveness....

She didn't say it was ruining his chances.

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Response to Sogo (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:52 PM

23. correct, she never said that

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:35 AM

44. Thank you nt

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Response to Name removed (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:47 PM

19. Wow

I like your enthusiasm, but I'm not buying a blue wave. Generally speaking, I try not to set myself up for failure. My predictions,. We hold the Senate, but lose the House. Feel free to bookmark this for later.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:19 PM

10. yeah nothing trashes election chances like giving the public what it wants

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:25 PM

12. I miss Ali Velshi, too.

At least now with the changes in MSNBC evening line-up, i have more time to do other things since I don't need to be glued to the tv all night long. Other than Monday night, I feel up to date if I just watch just The ReidOut and Lawrence O'Donnell.

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Response to RicROC (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:37 PM

16. Is he gone? Rats.

It was Johnny on the spot any a great insights and I think heís a very fine journalist.

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Response to mahina (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:06 PM

29. He's not gone. Still doing Sat and Sun 8 to 10am.

I really liked him in the evening slot. He sometimes covers for Lawrence on Friday night.

Alex is ok, but no reason why Velshi should not have that slot if he wants it. They replaced Brian Willuams with a female host, could certainly have a male host in the 9 pm slot. Velshi has gravitas, empathy, and graciousness.
As someone said a week or so ago, maybe Velshi prefers the schedule he has now. He's free to do book tours, host various forums etc. His intelligence and genuine curiosity shine through. Oh well. ..

I also think that Alicia Menendez has been doing very well whenever she substitutes for vacationing hosts.

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Response to yorkster (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:31 PM

64. Very well said, and exactly why I watch Velshi whenever he is on.

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Response to txwhitedove (Reply #64)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:38 PM

67. Thanks, txwhitedove..... n/t




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Response to yorkster (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:38 PM

66. I agree. Alicia Menendez has been awesome!

She would be better in that slot than Alex.

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Response to RicROC (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:43 PM

18. I'll agree.. change is hard but like you, I pick my favorites.

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Response to RicROC (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:53 PM

24. I like those too and Nicole Wallace on Dateline

...even though I often miss it because it's on at 4:00 pm where I live. I've not made any judgements yet about Alex Wagner. Her first two shows were OK. I missed it tonight.

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Response to RicROC (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:02 PM

27. They're the only ones I watch too

I did watch Velho but I never cared for Alex Wagner much

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Response to ebbie15644 (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:03 PM

28. Velshi

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:27 PM

14. Someone posted on Linked in

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217084121


Somebody just posted that Jesus' miracle of blessing the fishes and loaves and feeding the crowd was a slap in the face to everyone who had brought their own lunch.

There's a woman and her husband in North Carolina that have always been rightwing republicans, and the Roe decision and the republican whining about the college loan forgiveness has turned them both into democrats.

This couple are in their late 60's.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:33 PM

15. So your problem is that she disagrees with you?

I can think of a lot of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:51 PM

21. Such as?

I can think of a lot of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.


I would love to hear them. I'd especially like to hear "a lot" of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.

You mean, it might make selfish rightwingers whine?

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Response to BComplex (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:09 PM

31. A few from Tim Ryan.

I'm not a big fan of the forgiveness, per se. In the end I could give a flying F, but to me the ENTIRE program from top to bottom has been out of control for a very long time. My overall view is pretty much in line with Mr. Ryan.

"Instead of forgiving student loans for six-figure earners, we should be working to level the playing field for all Americans Ė including an across-the-board tax cut for working and middle-class families, medical debt cancellation, targeted forgiveness for essential workers and more opportunities for student borrowers to refinance their loans, and investing in apprenticeships, universal community college, and workforce development and training programs so all Americans Ė not just college grads Ė have a shot at success," Ryan added.

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Response to Abolishinist (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:17 PM

32. And I argue that "instead of" it should be "in addition to".

Education should be free and public. A better educated population makes better decisions.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #32)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:48 PM

35. Fascinating.

So, to be clear, an MBA working for Goldman Sachs makes "better decisions" than a factory worker at, say, General Motors.

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Response to Abolishinist (Reply #35)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:58 PM

36. So maybe we should just forego education altogether.

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Response to Abolishinist (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:31 AM

41. 90% of the relief will go towards those making less than $75,000/year.

A very small percentage -- we're talking you can count it on one hand -- will go towards those making """six figures,""" and even among those, there are plenty that live in high COL areas where """six figures""" doesn't go nearly as far as much less than that does in a state like Ohio.

In a year where Democrats are doing surprisingly well in the Senate, and even Democrats in purple states are running as heavy favorites, maybe Ryan should look within and question why he's one of the few Democratic Senate candidates that is performing poorly, ESPECIALLY when you consider how terrible his opponent is.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:30 PM

63. Exactly!! Democrats do better when they come out STRONGLY in favor of our values

and when they say it loud and proud. That's why Bernie still brings crowds of thousands together.

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Response to Abolishinist (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:59 AM

46. Medical debt forgiveness is interesting

You'd probably hear the same "what about people who pay their bills" arguments.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 10:33 PM

34. Resentment from non-College graduates (who are NOT all "selfish right-wingers")

Open question of what happens to NEW college students taking out loans this Fall.

Failure to address the underlying problem of college COSTS.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 05:34 AM

43. They get to reap the benefits of Biden's new and improved repayment plan.

I remember you criticizing Fetterman for seeming "light" on policy -- you weren't aware of this?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:04 AM

47. The root problem is students/parents/families not

understanding how these loans work.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:09 PM

60. Trade school debt is eligible as well.

Trade schools are where people go when they want to learn valuable skills like plumbing and welding. They typically donít have spring cotillions, dadís day weekends or homecoming parades, but itís an education nonetheless. Itís a side of pleb life that perhaps is unfamiliar to some.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:01 AM

51. The predatory lenders and schools are made whole in any case by taxpayers

while some students turned debt slaves are less fucked.

Education costs have skyrocketed because of the availability of student loans.

But many students find their education not worth the cost and the outstanding loans hobble their lives.

Posted earlier:

>>The root problem of student loan debt is the money grubbing student loan "industry"

and the way above inflation of higher education costs to consumer.

I have an MBA from Haas Business School (Cal, otherwise known as UC Berkeley), Class of 1987 (graduated age 34).

I paid iirc about $1200 per year in student fees / tuition for 2 years or less than $2500 total.

Look at current costs for Haas, a public university.

http://mba.haas.berkeley.edu/admissions/costs-and-financial-aid

Current cost for student fees and tuition alone is $67,424 for a CA resident or about $135,000 for the two year program.

University more than ever is a filter to divide the haves from the have nots

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 08:38 PM

76. I think you nailed it.

I don't get why people watch shows they don't like. That makes no sense to me.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 09:55 PM

25. Apparently you and I watch a different show, please post the link to her issue that you don't like!

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:09 AM

38. I have not been able to watch her for more than five minutes or so

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #38)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:30 AM

49. Maybe just quit then!

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #49)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 07:58 PM

75. I have stopped watching this show

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:19 AM

39. I think she's doing a great job!

I adore Rachel and always will, but Alex seems to be focusing more on current events and less on history. Both are importantópast is prologue after allóbut I love her focus on the extreme rightís focus on education. Itís super important right now.

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Response to renate (Reply #39)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:37 AM

53. I don't wish to hear right-wing talking points so I won't watch her both sides kind of. show.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 06:22 AM

48. I said Ari Melber would have been a better choice for that time slot!

She didn't impress me when she was on Showtime's The Circus. She came across as a Republican lite.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:27 AM

52. That is what she does. This is why I never watch her nor will I. I hope she is done soon and we

get Velshi who is way better. I don't like her and never liked any of her shows.

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Response to BComplex (Original post)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 11:53 AM

54. All cable news is shit

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #54)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:00 PM

55. Did she mention Republicans all got help too?

They all act like it just goes to Democrats. Maybe she could ask pukes to give theirs back. No chance. Big money turns even our favorite news talkers to the dark side. Wealth has their ways.

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Response to pwb (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:04 PM

58. I wouldn't know

I gave up cable news 4 years ago.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #58)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:06 PM

59. Me too.

I get some channels on Hulu. My Apologies, that was meant to be a reply to the O P.

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Response to pwb (Reply #59)

Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:10 PM

61. No prob have a great day!

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