OMG! TFG is actually asking for a copy of all seized materials!!

[Roland99]

From page 16 of 19 of his response to the DOJ filing re: Special Master

The Government should provide to the special master and to Movant a copy of the Seized Materials, a copy of the Search Warrant, and an unredacted copy of the underlying application materials.

Are you freaking kidding me??

[Historic NY]

1. He just doesn't get it

[BootinUp]

3. He is creating an alternative reality

For the magats and he gets it.

[forgotmylogin]

35. Because OF COURSE the goverment will make you a quick photocopy of any top secret document requested

[underpants]

7. He HAS to act like they are his.

He just has to. He doesn’t understand that he can’t dominate (if only in his mind) and he can’t because he is completely powerless.

[ShazzieB]

27. Exactly.

I think you nailed it.

[applegrove]

2. .

[getagrip_already]

4. No, they have a responsive judge.....

She may already have the court records, but she won't get the classified docs without a fight.

[SunSeeker]

26. Yup. That is the problem. She is bending over backwards for Trump.

She should have flat out denied his motion. Instead, she gave his lawyers legal advice on how to refile it. That is VERY rare for a judge to do for lawyers. Lawyers are normally expected to know what to do and carry malpractice coverage for when they screw up. She is basically treating them like sympathetic pro pers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. Exactly!

[Sneederbunk]

5. Has some customers who will buy copies.

[Ocelot II]

6. Um, no.

Not just no, but hell, no.

[SheltieLover]

8. Straight out of Pootin's playbook. Mockery of our justice system.

[lpbk2713]

9. What a sense of humor.

They are kidding aren't they?

[dchill]

10. And he's accusing the DOJ of "TEMERITY?!"

[Maeve]

11. You took the tv I stole so give me one just like it!!!!

[fierywoman]

12. ARREST HIM IN PA THIS WEEKEND.

[Cha]

13. STF U You Treasonous POS DT.. Damn

Idiot.

[mopinko]

14. almost seems like that should be a crime.

it's certainly evidence of state of mind, but shit.

[Ilsa]

15. Susan Gordon, who served as Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence,

said on Deadline Whitehouse today that TFG never understood that he had and continues to have a duty to protect classified material and sources. She insinuated that MaraLago must be swarming with foreign spies trying to get anyone there, even the maids, to share some juicy intel they saw laying around.

TFG is just so narcissistic and sociopathic that he doesn't understand the need to protect anyone other than himself.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. And what someone said, he should be trying to help DOJ, honest man theory

Here is a list of all the guests from April to May... at MAL who might have had access.

[Ilsa]

52. He refused to keep a visitors list at the WH, I think.

I can't imagine being able to create a list for the last several years, unless a foreign intelligence agency gives one to us.

[wnylib]

50. In this case, I just don't buy it that he doesn't understand.

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He knows that he should not have had the material. He knows its value to anyone who wants it. This is not a case of carelessness due to not understanding the need to protect the information in the documents.

This is just a case of extreme chutzpah to demand copies. It's the bold defiance of a criminal caught in the act when he has no plausible defense.

[Ilsa]

51. He knows it, but can't accept it. His extreme narcissism

is in dissonance with reality. I'm amazed anyone wants to represent him.

[Nevilledog]

16. Fun fact: Local rules limited response to 10 pages. He filed one that's 19 pages.

They did not ask permission to file longer brief.

[Roland99]

18. The first few pages read like one of his online rants

Beyond juvenile

[Nevilledog]

19. Notice the new supposed hotshot lawyer Kise didn't sign it.

[Roland99]

20. Can't help but wonder if that guy is cover for moRon DeFascist

It’s obvious ron sees an “in” for 2024. Esp with Twitler out of the way

[Ilsa]

17. Who is the attorney who is willing to sacrifice the rest of their

career for having drawn up this ridiculous request?

[jmowreader]

21. The government's response

1) ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?

2) Don't answer that.

3) We did the seizure to get that material away from you. If you think we're going to give it back, you're either drunk, high, dumb as a fucking rock or all three at once.

4) Don't ask this again.

[EndlessWire]

24. LOL! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. +1,000,000,000,000...

[revmclaren]

22. They are probably already bought and paid for.

He's probably terrified of what will happen if he doesn't deliver them.

Putin is not forgiving to people who work for him screwing up.

[brush]

23. He still is, and will remain a halfwit for the rest of his life.

Like who is to be tasked in copying top secret material for him?

The dummy had months to do that himself.

[EndlessWire]

25. It always seems to me like

you can picture Trump standing over his attorney urging him/her to put in those commercials into the legal docs, even though they had to have been otherwise trained to record just the facts for the Judge. This emotionalism makes everything they wrote seem weak. Whine, whine, cry, sniff.

[orangecrush]

28. ....

[Aussie105]

29. Totally ruins his retirement income plan!

He really NEEDS a copy of those documents!

Otherwise . . . well, go ask his shrinking band of followers for more donations, I guess.

[Gaugamela]

30. He's setting up a graymail defense.

Graymail is the threatened revelation of state secrets in order to manipulate legal proceedings. It is distinct from blackmail, which may include threats of revelation against, and manipulation of, any private individual. Graymail is used as a defense tactic, forcing the government to drop a case to avoid revealing national secrets.

Graymail can occur in two ways:

To straightforwardly blackmail the government, forcing it to drop the case using the threat that if the trial proceeds the defendant will reveal classified information he or she already knows.

To request use of classified material, e.g. as evidence, in the trial. The defendant speculates that the government will be unwilling to make the material fully available to the case, and that this will raise the possibility, in the eyes of the judge or jury, that the unreleased material might clear the defendant, making it difficult to prove guilt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graymail

[littlemissmartypants]

37. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. ❤️

[KPN]

41. Hmmm. Do you think they are smart enough to do that?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

49. Lol. Sorry to poster...but lol KPN

[calimary]

42. Sounds more like plain old blackmail to me.

WHEN do we take him into custody????

[Ponietz]

31. Get a load of this:

Link to tweet

[catbyte]

32. Maybe he was in the middle of a deal and he's nervous about holding up his end.

[orangecrush]

33. People

In hell want ice water, too.

[vapor2]

34. MAYBE WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER.

[littlemissmartypants]

36. He's always been an idiot. That hasn't changed.

But he's also a bully who is propped up and financed by an army of psycho/sociopaths just like him.

Antisocial Personality Disorder

https://www.mentalhealth.gov/what-to-look-for/personality-disorders/antisocial-personality-disorder

Antisocial personality disorder is a mental health condition in which a person has a long-term pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others. This behavior is often criminal.

Causes
The cause of antisocial personality disorder is unknown. Genetic factors and environmental factors, such as child abuse, are believed to contribute to the development of this condition. People with an antisocial or alcoholic parent are at increased risk. Far more men than women are affected. The condition is common among people who are in prison.

Fire-setting and cruelty to animals during childhood are linked to the development of antisocial personality.

Some doctors believe that psychopathic personality (psychopathy) is the same disorder. Others believe that psychopathic personality is a similar but more severe disorder.

Symptoms
A person with antisocial personality disorder may:

•Be able to act witty and charming
•Be good at flattery and manipulating other people's emotions
•Break the law repeatedly
•Disregard the safety of self and others
•Have problems with substance abuse
•Lie, steal, and fight often
•Not show guilt or remorse
•Often be angry or arrogant

Get Help...snip...

❤️

[Warpy]

38. he really doesn't get it

He thinks anything in the White House was his to take with him except the furniture, which was all really old stuff that Melania didn't like, anyway. Tackarama, you'd think they'd have bought a new bed since Lincoln's day.

He's totally shit out of luck. Most he can hope for is the number of documents market secret, market top secret, or unmarked but still belonging to the National Archives.

For anything else, he can refer to all the subpoenas he didn't comply with.

[ZonkerHarris]

39. Link please

[littlemissmartypants]

44. To quote the OP...

"From page 16 of 19 of his response to the DOJ filing re: Special Master"

❤️

[ZonkerHarris]

46. thread trashed.

[calimary]

40. As my mother would have called it: "...more nerve than the guy who ate the first oyster."

[DFW]

48. I can guess what happened

They carted off his annoted editions of Playboy and Penthouse, and his last copies of “Fun with Dick and Jane” finally faded to illegibility.

[empedocles]

53. .