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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEmpty "classified" folders - some info
This is a good thread by David Priess, former CIA & State Dept:
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Hey, everyone hyperventilating about #EmptyFolders
Slow down. Breathe.
Yes, the inventory lists empty folders with CLASSIFIED banners or marked "Return to Staff Secretary/Military Aide.
This almost certainly doesnt mean what you think.
Heres a sanity check.
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Classified documents, and most unclassified docs that are nevertheless sensitive, are usually carried between offices in places like the White House *in folders*.
Why? In large part, to keep prying eyes (or enterprising press photographers) from seeing them during transit.
2/6
So it is natural that boxes containing hundreds of classified/sensitive documents would also have the very folders that the docs had once been carried in and left in on a principals desk.
You need not list which folder each doc was in, if was in a folder at all when found.
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But whether the docs were in these folders or not, the agents needed to document that there were in fact folders in there. Those are physical objects, and the agents there did need to account for ALL of the physical objects theyd found.
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The haphazard intermingling of classified and presumably unclassified papers (and other things) in these boxes suggests that the folders sometimes would be in the same boxes as the documents they once contained, and sometimes not.
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Is it possible that the presence of empty folderseven if they were empty when found, which isnt clearreflects that there are additional documents that have not yet been found?
Possibly, sure. But not necessarily. And, I would argue, more unlikely than likely.
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Empty "classified" folders - some info (Original Post)
CaptainTruth
Sep 2022
OP
And do you hear that? That's the sound of tfg NOT explaining that point, or anything else about WHY
lindysalsagal
Sep 2022
#9
Walleye
(31,017 posts)1. Sorry, FPOTUS does not deserve the benefit of the doubt
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)3. I'm with you. What it NORMALLY means doesn't apply here.
Trump was the Unprecedent.
crickets
(25,976 posts)11. Not one bit. nt
intrepidity
(7,295 posts)2. More than anything, it demonstrates disregard and carelessness
as if we needed more.
Blues Heron
(5,932 posts)4. Cool story bro
brush
(53,776 posts)5. N-a-a-a-a-h. Something was in those folders.
Why would we ever think anything to do with trump is just an innocent happenstance?
No. Just no. Empty classified document holders had something in them at one time and none of that material should ever have been in his possession.
Ponietz
(2,968 posts)6. Many thought it unlikely the perp would attempt a coup
Who said it was haphazard? It may show how a sick, criminal mind organizes itself.
He would argue but provides no argument. I guess were to rely on his status?
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)7. Where has this guy been for the last 6 years? Under a rock?
Ponietz
(2,968 posts)8. His twit page contains a photo of him sitting with GHW Bush
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)9. And do you hear that? That's the sound of tfg NOT explaining that point, or anything else about WHY
this stuff was found. WHY he didn't just hand back empty folder covers??? Why would he keep empty folder covers?????
Midnight Writer
(21,760 posts)10. Oh, great. Now I can relax.
Like Trump said of Putin. "I don't know why he would lie."