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Nevilledog

(51,169 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 09:42 PM Sep 2022

'Without the Bible, There is No America': Josh Hawley's Unhinged NatCon Speech





https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/without-the-bible-there-is-no-america-josh-hawleys-unhinged-natcon-speech-38490295

U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) gave a speech that was "more like a sermon" at the National Conservatism Conference on Monday, claiming that, "without the Bible, there is no modernity. Without the Bible, there is no America," according to Salon.

The three-year-old conference, often called NatCon, is about the future of the conservative movement and nationalism.

According to Salon, organizer Yoram Hazony — chair of the Edmund Burke Foundation, which sponsors the conference — encouraged speakers to talk more about Christianity at the gathering on Monday. "When politicians come and stand on this stage," he asked, "do they mention the Bible? No, never."

Hazony, who lives in Israel and is the author ofThe Virtue of Nationalism and Conservatism: A Rediscovery, is Jewish, but believes a return to Christian values is the only way to fight against "woke neo-Marxism" Salon writes.

Hawley took the stage an hour after Hazony's remarks and spoke extensively about the Bible. The topic of his speech was the left's efforts to "unmake history."

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Christian values, Horam?
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 09:49 PM
Sep 2022

Values like feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, housing the homeless, and caring for the sick and injured? Would that look more like the Democrats' Affordable Care Act or the Republicans' "Don't Get Sick and if you do Die Quickly" platform plank?

dchill

(38,516 posts)
2. That asshole makes me VERY uncomfortable.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 09:50 PM
Sep 2022

Why isn't HE subpoenaed by the Jan 6th Committee? His role was right there in front of God and everybody.

rsdsharp

(9,195 posts)
4. That's why, even though the Constitution already contained the Article VI, Cl. 3
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 10:11 PM
Sep 2022

prohibition against any religious test as a qualification to hold office or public trust in the United States, the First Amendment (and the other 9 of the Bill of Rights) was still required to satisfy the anti-federalists.

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
5. I can see the scenario of the settlers coming over, according to Josh Hawley
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 10:24 PM
Sep 2022

"Well, we finally made it; away from oppression and to a new land where we build a new life for ourselves, not to mention developing the greatest nation on Earth."

"Did you bring the Bible?"

"No. I thought you brought the Bible."

"No. Not me."

"I thought she was supposed to bring the Bible."

"Don't look at me. You are in charge of everything."

"So nobody bright the Bible. Get back on the ship! We have to go back."

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
6. Dumb Ass.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 10:57 PM
Sep 2022

One of the reasons the founding fathers excluded religion from the government is because they saw how it corrupted it. Tax payers should not subsidize a religion so it can persecute you. That kind of thinking brought the French and Russian revolutions...and I think there were a few more.

Sky Jewels

(7,130 posts)
8. That's like saying, "without Harry Potter, there's no America.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 11:42 PM
Sep 2022

Actually, Harry Potter is more realistic than the Bible.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
9. Pffft...I stopped reading at the words Edmund Burke.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 11:46 PM
Sep 2022

I live in st louis, and WE KNOW, that even the pope knows that guys an asshole.

Solly Mack

(90,779 posts)
10. By "unmake history" he means facts that put the lie to the white supremacist based
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 12:14 AM
Sep 2022

history that dominated the country for far too long and still insist on being the only history that should be taught.

I have a set of history books published in the 1800s to the mid-1900s and those books go so far as to claim that everything good about Africa was brought about by "white" Africans.

The books purport to be "world" history with emphasis on America, its founding, and how just wonderful white Christian men have been for the world.

They get worse from there. Denying America's actual history in favor of the great white father take on America.

No women, no people of color honored as they should be. Slavery treated as not-so-bad.

Just white Christian men doing everything good and nothing bad.

Hawley wants to stop the truth from being told in favor of all vanilla and goodness all the time.

sanatanadharma

(3,714 posts)
12. "Without the Bible, There is No America": But there is a United Stares of America
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:42 AM
Sep 2022

I'd rather have a secular-constitutional USA than a ignorant-religious America.
Keep in mind, American extends from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, encompasses three-main languages and many others.
America is not religiously homogeneous, and includes more than three main scriptural traditions (Bible, Koran, Vedas, Torah, Sutras).

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