University of Oregon acts quickly re: "F*CK MORMONS" chant at football game.

[WarGamer]

Some parents missed the whole "Don't let your kids grow up to be assholes" thing...

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[msongs]

1. gee all the gay kids at BYU might be supporting the oergon vieew nt

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. Well. they weren't against BYU football. Just the religion that makes it relevant.

[WarGamer]

3. All bigotry is wrong.

F the Mormons is no better/worse than F the Muslims or F the LGBT or F the Christians or F the Jews

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. Good point. Better to be silent and play football. nt

[WarGamer]

6. I would have been 100% supportive of a F- BYU chant.

Or F the Crimson Tide or F the Trojans, Hurricanes or Mountaineers.

[Brother Buzz]

19. In the bigger picture all Pac 12 teams hate BYU and learned it from upstairs

Pac-12 has repeatedly snubbed BYU for, like, forever. And it looks like BYU is gonna have the last laugh with the Pac 12 imploding after losing two teams. BYU rejected the Pac 12 invite, and essentially gave them the finger and joined the Big 12.

[RockRaven]

4. Idiots. There's a whole persecution complex thingy with the LDS. Playing right into their hands.

You're not hurting their feelings, you're making them feel right and righteous!

That's on top of being childish dickheads.

[live love laugh]

7. It's "the Mormons" this week. BYU has issues.

Not long ago they went unreprimanded after using racist slurs against black athletes.

Fuck BYU and Oregon.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

14. Those allegations were not corroborated.

Fri Sep 9, 2022: BYU says it cannot corroborate allegations of racist slurs at volleyball match, ending investigation

BYU says it cannot corroborate allegations of racist slurs at volleyball match, ending investigation

In a statement Friday, the school also noted that it has lifted a ban on a fan who was accused of shouting the N-word.

Brigham Young University and Utah State University, Sept. 1, 2022. BYU said on Friday, Sept. 9, 2022, that it could not corroborate claims that a Duke volleyball player was called the N-word during a match on Aug. 26.

By Courtney Tanner and Kevin Reynolds * Sep. 9, 2022, 10:42 a.m. * Updated: 10:59 a.m.

Brigham Young University has concluded its investigation into allegations of racism at a volleyball match last month, saying it could not corroborate claims that a Duke player was called the N-word. ... In a statement Friday, the Provo school said it thoroughly reviewed surveillance video from the game and found no evidence that a fan screamed slurs at Duke sophomore Rachel Richardson as she had reported she heard “very distinctly.”

It’s a reversal for BYU, which had not previously doubted the veracity of Richardson’s account, though many had pilloried her on social media for weeks. ... “There will be some who assume we are being selective in our review,” the statement from BYU adds. “To the contrary, we have tried to be as thorough as possible in our investigation, and we renew our invitation for anyone with evidence contrary to our findings to come forward and share it.”

The accusations of racism among its fans had thrust BYU into the national spotlight and divided the community. On Aug. 27, the day after the match against Duke on the Provo campus, Richardson’s godmother first posted on social media that the player had been called racist names.

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Intensive BYU investigation finds no evidence of racist slur beyond Duke player’s statement

BYU drops ban on fan, says investigators scrutinized video and audio and reached out to 50 eyewitnesses, including Duke players and athletic department personnel

By Tad Walch Sept 9, 2022, 10:06am EDT

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From Twitter:

* Duke vball player: BYU fan screamed n-word at me throughout the game
* No one else, including her teammates, heard it
* Duke IDs suspect anyway. BYU bans him for life
* National media coverage
* S Carolina cancels games vs BYU
* Review of all tape finds it never happened

A statement from BYU Athletics regarding the investigation of the Aug. 26 volleyball match, examining our fan behavior and response.

http://byucougars.com/story/athletics/1300724/statement-byu-athletics-regarding-investigation-aug-26-volleyball-match

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Jon McBride | Posted: 9 Sep 2022 | Updated: 9 Sep 2022

A STATEMENT FROM BYU ATHLETICS REGARDING THE INVESTIGATION OF THE AUG. 26 VOLLEYBALL MATCH

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[SalamanderSleeps]

8. What the fuck has happened to U of O?

When I was a kid growing up in Eugene the university students barely cared about the football team and had they met anyone from BYU's team they would have tried to send them home with an "Illegal Smile."

Perhaps, college football and all of the tribalism it spawns should be eliminated from the collegiate environment.

Just a thought.

Pitting youth against youth just doesn't make a lot of sense to me in this day and age.

[Sky Jewels]

11. Nike and it's massive $$$ happened.

It’s like a corporate cult.

[Samrob]

12. I highly recommend Paul Pringle's book "Bad City"

I can't even ... it goes deep into the college-money-sports-drugs-coverups-grants-law (non)enforcement-medicine ... oh shit there is just so much to learn and be gob-smacked about. Still SMH. Even hits the celebrity scandal of paying for their privileged kids to get into college and what you never read about in the papers. Tells how really good journalists are hamstrung by the big-wigs who own and run the newspapers and news media. I wish the book could be made into a movie but I don't see how the many angles and links could be captured unless it becomes a two-year series. The streets and places of Pasadena and Altadena were all so familiar to me...but really never knew what was going on there behind the scenes.

[Sky Jewels]

21. That sounds infuriating...

Thanks for the rec!

[LuvLoogie]

9. Not that two wrongs make a right, but....

https://thenationaldesk.com/news/americas-news-now/after-byu-fan-repeatedly-calls-her-racial-slurs-duke-volleyball-player-responds-brigham-young-university-provo-utah-north-carolina-volleyball-match-racist-rachel-richards-heckled

She stated that she and her fellow Black teammates were "targeted and racially heckled throughout the entirety of the match," according to the post. "The slurs and comments grew into threats, which caused me to feel unsafe."

Richardson wrote that officials and coaching staff at BYU were made aware of the incident, but "failed to take the necessary steps to stop the unacceptable behavior and create a safe environment" both during and after the match.

As a result, my teammates and I had to struggle just to get through the rest of the game instead of just being able to focus on our playing so that we could compete at the highest level," she stated. "... No athlete, regardless of their race, should ever be subject to such hostile conditions."

[mahatmakanejeeves]

15. See post #14.

Mon Sep 19, 2022: Those allegations were not corroborated.

Fri Sep 9, 2022: BYU says it cannot corroborate allegations of racist slurs at volleyball match, ending investigation

[Sky Jewels]

10. A chant of "Fuck Racism" would have worked.

I understand their disgust with Mormonism, which is another shitty patriarchal mythology bullshit belief system, like evangelical Christianity, but they shouldn’t have said “Mormons.”

[Just A Box Of Rain]

17. .

[MissMillie]

13. I swear, I truly don't understand it

What does religion have to do with a football game (or any sporting event)?

When did football cheers move from "hold that line!" to religion bashing?

Why is bashing the "other" so important to some people?



Football: not just for touchdowns, tackles and tailgating anymore?

[leftyladyfrommo]

16. In 1968 I went to a basketball game between the

U of U and BYU. Many of our players were black as were many on the football team.

BYU students were hurling horrible things onto the court and yelling awful racist things.

It was a really popular black football player who went onto the court and started a cheer and quieted things down. That took a lot of courage.

Mormons were really racist back then. They taught that a black skin was the curse of Caine. From what I have read it sounds like there is still a lot of racism.

[roamer65]

18. All religious cults should be ridiculed.

I have zero problem with the chant.

Mormonism is a religious cult…magic underwear and all.

[maxsolomon]

20. Duck fans are classless, and that isn't a new phenomenon.

Mormonism is dumb, but it's rude to point it out.

[Sky Jewels]

22. ...

I agree that Mormonism is a ridiculous belief system, based on stupid stories obviously made up by its founders. But a lot of the time the people who make fun of that religion believe that a sky god creator/ruler of the entire 14-billion-year-old universe raped a virgin on planet Earth a couple thousand years ago and produced a magical undead carpenter who also his own father and he's coming back any day now to suck believers into the sky or some such ... but, hey, the golden tablets, magical underwear, and *cue Depeche Mode* your own personal planet are a bridge too far.

[maxsolomon]

23. Mormons believe that story, too.

With that more ridiculous story laid over the top.

But in America, it's rude to point it out. We're supposed to respect Faith, even when it means accepting absurdity.

[Sky Jewels]

24. Right. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people

who think their particular version of utter nonsense is "true," while those crazy Mormons have nutty beliefs.

I respect people's rights to believe in mythology and even espouse it to others, aka faith. I don't respect the beliefs themselves. And I reserve the right to espouse the point of view that these stories are obviously fictional.

A lot of people, even on DU, try to pretend that criticizing belief systems (as opposed to their adherents) is "bigotry." So if I say "Christianity is a steaming pantload," a lot of them would accuse me of bigotry. (Notice in this hypothetical I did not say "all Christians are stupid" -- yes, I'd agree that that's bigotry, and I don't think that statement is true anyway.) Yet if I said "Republicanism is a steaming pantload," they would agree wholeheartedly and not call me a bigot. Go figure.