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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,489 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 08:04 PM Sep 2022

What much of the GOP doesn't get about the Martha's Vineyard story

DeathSantis' goal was to have Martha Vineyard treat these refugees/asylum seekers the same way that DeathSantis treats other non-whites and minorities. The good people of Martha Vineyard disappointed DeathSantis by being good human beings and not typical GOP/MAGA assholes



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/much-gop-doesnt-get-marthas-vineyard-story-rcna48377?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

The day that DeSantis’ chartered planes landed on the Massachusetts island, his political operation hinted at one of the motivations behind the stunt: They were going to prove that liberal rhetoric about welcoming migrants was wrong. The proof would come when Martha’s Vineyard residents lashed out at the struggling people the Floridian had dumped in their community.

Those assumptions were quickly discredited when locals rallied to assist the human beings DeSantis exploited as political props.

But in a curious twist, Cruz and other Republicans are still clinging to the discredited initial claim. “See?” they’re effectively arguing. “Look how quickly those rascally libs deported the migrants!”

Reality keeps getting in the way. The migrants and their families were taken to a base on Cape Cod to be cared for because there were no comparable facilities on Martha’s Vineyard. As the NBC affiliate in Boston reported, “Shortly after the arrival of the migrants, Martha’s Vineyard residents joined with local and state officials to create temporary shelter and provide food and other necessities. But [Gov. Charlie] Baker’s administration said the island is not equipped to provide ongoing food and shelter, so transportation was provided on Friday to bring the migrants to the new temporary shelter on Cape Cod.”

To hear Cruz tell it, this proves that conservatives were right all along. This turns reality on its head. Residents of Martha’s Vineyard treated these migrants and their families with dignity and compassion, and they’re now poised to receive additional assistance from the state.

To the extent that DeSantis’ cruel stunt had a political goal, it failed spectacularly. To pretend otherwise is to ignore what actually happened.

DeathSantis' stunt failed spectacularly
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What much of the GOP doesn't get about the Martha's Vineyard story (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
It doesn't matter to the cult. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2022 #1
DeathSantis and Abbott are trying to sell a story that fell apart LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #2
That is exactly what I've seen ThoughtCriminal Sep 2022 #6
Yep. They were declaring victory the next morning. underpants Sep 2022 #7
+1 Meadowoak Sep 2022 #9
KnR Hekate Sep 2022 #3
Except that the GQP voters don't care about that part of the story, and won't see it anyway. RockRaven Sep 2022 #4
+1000 GuppyGal Sep 2022 #11
DeSantis launches missiles at Dems hoping to cause them major damage. magicarpet Sep 2022 #5
Watch out DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #8
Didn't desantis have to get refugees from Texas to pull off this stunt? rubbersole Sep 2022 #10
"ignoring what actually happened" is right-wing media's specialty (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2022 #12
"The more we find out about this, the more this was a mistake for Ron DeSantis." LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #13

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
1. It doesn't matter to the cult.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 08:11 PM
Sep 2022

I still torture myself by attempting to debate with right wingers in a Facebook group and, to a person, they insist that none of that goodwill happened, that they immediately deported the “illegals” and that they’re massive hypocrites. The video meant nothing, the facts mean nothing.

They set out to prove that everyone is as big of an asshole as they are and when it didn’t happen, they lied and said it did anyway.

It’s pointless trying to talk to these people. But I do it anyway, because apparently I’m a masochist.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,489 posts)
2. DeathSantis and Abbott are trying to sell a story that fell apart
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 08:12 PM
Sep 2022

I am amused that Abbott thinks that he is a contended for the 2014 nomination, but Abbott is trying to out asshole DeathSantis to be the frontrunner if TFG is convicted. Both have engaged in serious election denial and voter suppression. Abbott started banning gendering affirming treatment for Trans youths and DeathSantis has followed.

Greg got a leg up on DeathSantis by bussing refugees and asylum seekers up to Democratic controlled cities and so DeathSantis had to get into this violation of the law and civil rights.

The goal of both of these assholes is to appeal to TFG supporters and try to be the GOP 2024 nominee. This contest is really sad and innocent persons/refugees are being hurt




https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-tries-to-trump-trump-with-cynical-sadistic-migrant-flights/

There were so many scandals during the Trump years that it's hard to remember all. Some stand out, of course, like his blatant obstruction of justice in the Russia investigation and his attempted extortion against the Ukrainian government in hopes of smearing Joe Biden. And of course Trump went out with a bang, attempting a coup and inciting an insurrection. Those things got him impeached — and may end up getting him indicted. But there was so much more......

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott apparently saluted smartly and got right to work. By early August he was sending busloads of asylum-seekers to New York and Washington, D.C., "as part of the Governor's response to the Biden Administration's open border policies," as an official statement from his office put it. (Never mind that the Biden administration has no such policies.)

Those two cities have been coping with the influx, and a number of charities and churches have stepped in to help. This is stretching their already stretched systems, but so far no one has even contemplated putting the migrants on buses back to Houston or San Antonio (or maybe to other red-state cities) because the officials in New York and D.C., whatever their flaws, aren't monsters. They are trying to figure out ways to help these people find family members and get jobs and housing as they await hearings on whether they qualify to stay in the U.S.

Not to be outdone by Abbott's stunt, the GOP's current troll king, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, decided this week to take Carlson's advice to send asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard, the affluent resort island off the coast of Massachusetts. Even though Florida is not a border state, DeSantis has already had the state legislature appropriate millions for the purpose of sending migrants out of state. (His lieutenant governor made a major gaffe, however, when she suggested the state might use that money to send the recent influx of Cuban refugees back to that island, a huge political no-no in Florida.)

Since DeSantis didn't have any refugees readily available to expel this week, he used his forced deportation money to charter a couple of jets and coerce migrants who were in Texas — halfway across the country — to board them, claiming they were being sent to Boston with promises of resources and support. Instead the migrants were dropped off on Martha's Vineyard, a famous summer resort with a year-round population of around 15,000. No one there knew they were coming, and they were essentially dumped at the island's tiny airport like cargo.

This contest is sick and sad. I was pleased to see the good people of Martha' Vineyard step up





I am hopeful that DeathSantis and Abbott will be prosecuted for these stunts


ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
6. That is exactly what I've seen
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 09:12 PM
Sep 2022

They will believe their fantasy of how things happened, even when confronted with proof that it did not.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
7. Yep. They were declaring victory the next morning.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 09:41 PM
Sep 2022

I wasn’t aware of this until the next morning. Fox was on site at the Naval Observatory in DC.

This story (both of them) were packaged and delivered for their consumption. What actually happened is of no importance. I’ve gotten into it with some people on Facebook. I just stated what we know and they can’t process it because they don’t have to.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
4. Except that the GQP voters don't care about that part of the story, and won't see it anyway.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 08:27 PM
Sep 2022

They will see that DeathSentence "owned the libs" because that's all that they want to see, and all their media diet will show them. And if they see otherwise by accident, they have no problem ignoring facts and details which don't fit into their desired narrative, they've got loads of practice at it.

It didn't fail. It didn't backfire. It was a cheap cruel stunt to entertain and pander to GQP base voters, and it did that perfectly well.

magicarpet

(14,164 posts)
5. DeSantis launches missiles at Dems hoping to cause them major damage.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 09:06 PM
Sep 2022

But every attempt exploded in his face causing major humiliation for poor Ronny.

This is just like DeSantis' missile dud,...

Fire in the hole,...

Oops,... it almost ended up in your lap.

rubbersole

(6,722 posts)
10. Didn't desantis have to get refugees from Texas to pull off this stunt?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:52 PM
Sep 2022

Did abbott send his best and brightest? These two performance artist governors trying to out douche each other is just giving Beto and Crist fodder for campaign commercials. Please continue...

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