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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 02:58 PM Sep 2022

I know there are people here who know trump, who have simply met him or some who know him

Please tell us YOUR analysis of whether or not he is smart at all.

By smart I mean intellectually. I dont want to taint your response with what I am looking for by saying what I think.

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I know there are people here who know trump, who have simply met him or some who know him (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 OP
I don't know him but I have an opinion on tfg. pwb Sep 2022 #1
Thank you Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #2
Certainly not book smart. But an ability to ensnare that I don't get at all. LakeArenal Sep 2022 #3
I ran into him at a DEMOCRATIC fundraiser in 2001 brooklynite Sep 2022 #4
OK, I asked. But Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #8
It's "saavy" when you get away with it. brooklynite Sep 2022 #10
I guess Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #11
I suggest you read Mary Trump's book. Quite the eye-opener. Native Sep 2022 #5
He is a malignant narcissist - amoral. You don't have to be intelligent to be a narcissist. Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #6
Never met him but I have an opinion Bluesaph Sep 2022 #7
My .02 based solely on his history, facts, observations: Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #9
I had dinner with a group of NY real estate experts cally Sep 2022 #12
He is an expert in the arts and sciences of locating and/or creating loopholes,.. magicarpet Sep 2022 #13

pwb

(11,261 posts)
1. I don't know him but I have an opinion on tfg.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022

He is still a deviant child man. Unworthy of any respect on any level.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
3. Certainly not book smart. But an ability to ensnare that I don't get at all.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:09 PM
Sep 2022

To me he’s so transparently corrupt.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
4. I ran into him at a DEMOCRATIC fundraiser in 2001
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:23 PM
Sep 2022



He didn't come across as intellectually "smart", but he's saavy and gaming the system for his own benefit.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
8. OK, I asked. But
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:32 PM
Sep 2022

is it "savvy" to just not pay your bills?

Is it "savvy" to create phony businesses and steal people's money?

When you have someone else doing all the planning and implementing like with the fake college, etc.

OK, I accept this answer. But when he says shine a light on your innards or drink bleach, etc. Dumbshit!

I knew you would answer and I was hoping someone else would also, someone who was in a business meeting with him for instance where he would display his complete and total ignorance of everything business related.

Didnt the IRS say he lost more money than anybody? Dont we KNOW most if not all of his businesses either fail or are failing?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. I guess
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:53 PM
Sep 2022

He saw he could lie and steal nonstop and get away with it, and since he knows no other way to function in society he continued to do that.

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
7. Never met him but I have an opinion
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:29 PM
Sep 2022

Hope that’s ok.

I think he’s a genius! A MOB genius. He is a genius at corruption. His charisma gives him ability to con and snow in an unsurpassed way! He is simply the best at what he does! And he knows enough about enough things to know what tactics to use. He even knows to play both sides.

He finally (for once) has met his match in the US DOJ!

Irish_Dem

(47,022 posts)
9. My .02 based solely on his history, facts, observations:
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:36 PM
Sep 2022

Trump is not educated/book smart. Not intellectually curious.

Probably has some sort of learning ability; he has difficulty reading and understanding material.

Based upon the fact he has an undergraduate college degree, we could guess that his IQ is around 110-114.
Maybe high normal. But he could have cheated in college.

But has cunning, devious street smarts.

Charisma like a cult leader.

A real talent for skirting the law, using the law and courts as a weapon.
A talent in identifying business opportunities where he can make money.
A talent for evading the law.

His sociopathy and narcissism get in the way of logical thinking, rational thought.
He is shallow, petty, immature, very angry. These traits get in the way of good judgement.

Trump is obnoxious and unlikeable to many. But his charming buffoon act, full of anger and hatred,
is quite popular.

Trump is certainly no genius, but there is no way a stupid man could have pulled off everything he has
done. No way at all.

cally

(21,593 posts)
12. I had dinner with a group of NY real estate experts
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:02 PM
Sep 2022

All knew and had interacted with Trump. All said he’s not smart and had little real estate knowledge. All disliked him intensely and did not trust him in business and hated he was President. These folks were the type of folks who are known expert in real estate not the hucksters.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
13. He is an expert in the arts and sciences of locating and/or creating loopholes,..
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

... that he can then fully exploit to his advantage to derive a maximum financial gain in his quest for gluttonous self enrichment. He often accomplishes this in excessively fraudulent ways and shamefully unethical manners.

Taking advantage of those he considers weak, fucking people over in general, and vengeance coupled with vindictiveness for those who criticize or speak of him unkindly - are the main sources from which he derives his greatest thug type thrills.

His mind is bent, dented, and twisted in way that are incomprehensible and unfathomable. He is beyond any hopes of redemption in the spheres of a more Godly world.

He has sought refuge and comfort under the wings and the tutelage of the disciples of the devil for too prolonged a period of time and too much evil has contaminated and rubbed off on him. [i.e. DJTs mentoring escapades since he was a young man with toxic males of this ilk - Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, Jeffery Epstein, the Italian Mafia Thugs, Russian Mafia Thugs, and others].

The poor man has become at his own making - a waste of a human being and now in his twilight years an isolated, lonely, and lost soul. Precious few, if any people want anything to do with him because he has become so repulsive, is so repulsive. He has few available remaining options here on earth to keep himself busy.

Here's an idea. Why doesn't he run straight into the open arms of Satan, who must be his secret idol and one he admires. Become his business partner/co-owner/manager/ and operator of purgatory. DJTs first job assignment could be to stoke the flames (of hatred) in Hell. Everyone knows he would be a perfect candidate of the job. He has so much experience already here on earth. Good Lord his expertise is unmatchable. Stoke-Flames-Hatred-Living Hell - DJT has fully master all those categories superbly.

That would keep him the fuck out of the District of Columbia, off Pennsylvania Avenue, and out of the Oval Office - come 2024.
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