The moment I saw the possible charges on Trumps warrant, I knew his luck had finally run out.

[fightforfreedom]

I knew Trump had made the mistake of thinking he was still protected by the presidency. Trump got away with almost everything while he was president because he was president. This time Trump had committed serious felonies and he was no longer president, game over.

I have been comparing Trumps narcissism to that of the BTK killer. I believed Trump would entrap himself, just like BTK, because of his narcissism and that is what happened.

Trump knew for many months he was being investigated. He had been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury. Knowing all of that Trump left secret documents laying around in his desk. Only a narcissist would do that. He was so sure, because he was president, the FBI would never raid his resort. He was wrong.

Now he is facing serious felonies and he has no defense. Trump will be the first president indicted in our history.

[malaise]

1. Professor Tribe says the Slobfather is finally going to face consequences fot

Matters Espionage Act
Can’t wait.
Look out for civil consequences in New York today😀

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Roy Cohn could be dug up and TFG still wouldn't be safe.

[ashredux]

3. I still say, he will run. He will leave the country and try to "govern in Absentia"

[stopdiggin]

4. I'd call that wild conjecture

... were the subject not the chaotic (and illogical) figure under discussion. However - his deposed presidency from Mar-A-Lago isn't going too smoothly ...

[bluedigger]

6. Does his Secret Service detail escort him to the boarding gate?

At what point does their duty change from protector to law enforcement?

[ashredux]

9. Well, that's an interesting question.

[scarletlib]

7. That might be the best solution for us.

Here he is a danger. Even in jail he would still exert influence over his cult. I have thought about how his death would affect his cult. No matter the cause of death, they will not believe it. If he were buried here, his grave would become a shrine to them.

Outside of the country his influence will diminish. There will be no more rallies. He can talk about returning from exile in glory, but each week, month, year he fails to do so his hold on them will diminish.

So what do you think?

[ashredux]

10. You're correct on the issue of his death. Regardless of the cause, his base would call it murder

You’re correct on the issue of his death. Regardless of the cause, his base would call it murder

But, once he’s indicted, and things start to go badly, he will not want to be actually incarcerated. He will try to run. And, there are countries that would accept him and use him as a pawn. You just can’t write this stuff, this reality is stranger than fiction

[Rabrrrrrr]

26. And of course, knowing he might need to flee the country is why he stole all the documents

so that he'd have something to pay his way into Russia or wherever the hell country he might flee to.

I'm sure that he assumed that by having those documents he was safe. But he was too stupid to know that it was a good bet that the government would notice that they were missing...

Or maybe he thought that he'd be indicted and fucked for his other crimes long before the DOJ got around to grabbing the documents back from him.

Maybe Garland's goal was to keep the stupid fuck in the country long enough to ensure that he didn't use those documents to buy his way into Russia or whatever.

[Justice matters.]

30. He 'may' have already used those documents to buy his way into another dictatorship.

The problem is, we don't know what he did with classified documents since January 2017, military or else.

We know he showed sensitive documents to that war criminal, Lavrov, inside the WH with no US reporters present and that the CIA had to rush to save an asset embedded in the Russian government from getting killed, thus losing important intel information about their shenanigans.

What else did he do with the TS/SCI documents, including those about a foreign nation's nukes??

[Rabrrrrrr]

43. We'll likely never know -

both in the sense of the "we" that is the government agencies trying to figure out what he might have done with them; and then "we" the public who likely wouldn't be told the few things that the government agencies are able to determine.

I love due process and our Constitutional protections, but there are some things - like stealing top secret documents - that should just be an immediate "You go to jail now".

[smb]

12. They'll Need Hip Boots For The Urine-Soaked Mud At That "Shrine" nt

[intheflow]

22. I don't think his leaving the country would diminish his power.

Think about white supremacist gangs that are run from inside federal prisons. They do damage outside of prisons just by meeting a visitor to get the directives out. Now imagine he’s out of the country, an exiled martyr to his cult, with access to social media. At this point, it doesn’t matter what his punishment is (jail or fugitive), his devoted, deranged followers will martyr him. They really do see him as a Christ figure.

[NJCher]

27. somebody needs to tell them

They really do see him as a Christ figure.

We don't need no modern Jesus; we don't need an orange Jesus, either.

[BComplex]

38. And a lot of this has to do with the fact that prisons keep running fux nooze on all the tv's

There needs to be a change in the DOJ to quit feeding the fucking US nazis all that fux nooze propaganda. It plays on military bases and prisons. NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!

[Probatim]

29. I suspect they'd wait for his return in Dallas - along with JFK Jr.

At least it would distract his loonies from doing any more significant harm.

[The Bopper]

44. Gitmo

Baby

[Joinfortmill]

15. Good riddance. His life won't be worth a dime...

The oligarchs will eliminate him.

[sboatcar]

28. He better be moving his money into friendly foreign banks right away then

I think most of his wealth is tied up in debt and real estate though, if he leaves the country, he forfeits it.

[Alpeduez21]

5. He got away with everything as president

because Barr said the president is immune to prosecution (sounds like precedent to me). Never forget what Barr did to this country. He is on some apology tour or reshape his image tour and the media is lapping it up. He is a piece of shit never let that go. GOTV

[Joinfortmill]

16. Yup. Hope he gets his just desserts some day.

[Harker]

17. Two scoops. n/t

[Joinfortmill]

18. Lol. I'll leave the error.

[Escurumbele]

23. It was not Barr who came up with that, it precedes him, the opinion was written during Nixon

And it was a cowardly opinion, but it is nothing else than an opinion that can be ignored at any time.

First of all it doesn't make sense, if a president is found to be a traitor while in office, who in their right mind would allow that traitor to continue as president? That it wasn't done to trump is the result of a very corrupt and coward republican party, but it is not a law, or a legal code that a sitting president cannot be indicted, Barr was a pawn, trump's lapdog and that is why he brought that opinion back to the light, but he knows very well it is BS.

[msfiddlestix]

8. How do you suppose The Orange Furher was protected for his entire adult life of Organize Crimes in

NY and beyond our borders? He is still free to crime. His luck hasn't run out quite yet.

Money Laundering, Tax Fraud, out in the open business scams here and beyond our country, and much more, all before he was installed in the White House? There's a reason why he didn't face any consequences for the myriad of life long financial crimes he committed.

As long as he is still free to hold his fascists hate filled cult rallies, and tweet about it on social media platforms etc, his "luck" (read PROTECTION) continues to be with him. Even if he was somehow incarcerated this morning, he will be freed by a sympathetic judge.

Until he is incarcerated for life, his "luck" remains in tack.

[Lonestarblue]

19. And the only state where he would not be pardoned is Mew York.

If Republicans win (or cheat) and regain the WH in 2024, Trump will be pardoned for all federal crimes. Given Republican efforts in Georgia to overturn the 2020 election and their subsequent voter nullification laws, the likelihood is that Kemp will “win.” He will then pardon Trump if he is convicted of breaking Georgia laws.

And who knows whether any real criminal charges will be brought against Trump in NY. Trump will delay and delay any prosecution through appeal after appeal, trying to run out the clock to 2024 with the hope that Republicans will have enough corrupt elections officials in place to ensure a Republican president.

[fightforfreedom]

20. Cancel all the investigations, it's hopeless.

[NJCher]

33. right

he's Modern Jesus.

Ooops, Orange Jesus.

[msfiddlestix]

37. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[Escurumbele]

25. His luck may not be intact anymore, in the past his visibility was not as high as it is now

He settled many of the accusations against him, and I am sure he corrupted many lawyers and judges in the way, but the fact that he tried to settle with the New York office and James told him to buzz off is an indication that his luck is no longer intact, and I cannot way for the buffoon to face the consequences of his criminality. He is about to understand something that has eluded him all his life, "Actions have consequences".

[msfiddlestix]

36. Right? Actions do have consequences in some form or another

we all need the kind of consequences that not only neuter him from this day forward, but blows up every intent to escape from those consequences, spectacularly. imo.

[Walleye]

11. He never thought the FBI would search Mar-a-Lago. Never. He was wrong

[Joinfortmill]

13. Let us pray

[Ford_Prefect]

14. Ex-president he is. Indicted as such he will be. Imprisoned will his legacy be.

[OverBurn]

21. With every fiber I hope he goes to prison. I'll believe it when I see it though.

[AllaN01Bear]

24. y is everything possible for this joker? when action dang nabbit.

[carpetbagger]

31. Marion Barry ended up reelected.

I think he had what Trump doesn't, which was relative youth, and the clock may run out on Trump. But he's obviously going to push this to 2023 and 2025, and may get a pardon or a Congressional standoff and a civil fracture.

Killing off the power of a politician like Trump is one of the hardest political feats to pull off. Ain't over yet.

[Chainfire]

32. When you look at what stands between Trump and justice, it does not make me optimistic

Indictment
jury
Circuit appeal
Supreme Court.

Trump only has to prevail once. The prosecution has to hit a grand slam.

[NJCher]

34. if it goes that route

You're assuming he'll have masterful attorneys. But since he has such horrible lawyers--I laugh when I think of the irony of one of his lawyers being named "Trusty"--it will be difficult for him to stage any kind of successful defense.

Subsequently there is every possibility for him to make a deal with the U.S. government. They are not fools and they know he is inciting violence as a means of getting them to back off. No government can allow that kind of intimidation to go forward.

Maybe he'll get to the point where he has to take a court-appointed attorney.

[Treefrog]

35. When is this happening?

Oh yeah, September 22, right? That's what was predicted here, I think.

Holy cow, that's tomorrow!

[Bonx]

39. He will be indicted on 09-22? AWESOME!!! Looking forward to this so much!

[Kingofalldems]

40. His little internet trolls are just like him too.

They seem to think this is a joke.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

41. And yet he still walks free.

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42. K&R