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Trumps slippery and cunning, but this time I think the chains are really falling. I dont think hell go to prison, but Id say hes very likely to be indicted, and on the losing end of multiple court actions.
Id guess that 15 years from now, or perhaps even less, many or most prominent Republicans will be saying I never really liked Trump, I was always deeply suspicious of the guy, and I always had problems with Trumps ethical flaws.
We may even get a number of Republicans saying Trump was never a real conservative!
Theyll probably support nearly the exact same policies Trump stood for, though.
WarGamer
(12,604 posts)Trump is the face of the movement but he's NOT the movement.
Who started it?
Goldwater? Pat Buchanan?
A little Ron Paul mixed in?
So as soon as Trump is out of the picture, a new figurehead will replace him. Maybe DeSantis? Noem? Cruz, Paul?? Who knows.
The only SURE THING is, it won't be a neocon or a moderate.
MatthewG.
(362 posts)I think youre basically right.
Trumps a somewhat unique political figure in the sense that he inspired a genuine personality cult among a passionate minority of Republicans - largely the most hateful and sloppy-thinking among them.
I dont know if the next face of the GOP will inspire a personality cult in quite the same way. But conservatives will be back in some form soon enough, and not led by any kind of Establishment figure.
WarGamer
(12,604 posts)Someone else can do it.
Polybius
(15,606 posts)In many ways, I hate them more than Trumpers. Neo-cons love endless wars.
ZZenith
(4,144 posts)of our current crop of orcs.
And the idea that this is all going to go away when Trump is off the stage is dreaming.
Fascism here in the US is alive and well.
ZZenith
(4,144 posts)I actually think they are desperate and see their last chance slipping away. Which it is.
odins folly
(183 posts)But I think a far greater group will be the same folks I encountered after W; life long republicans who suddenly became independent and professed to anyone who was in ear shot that they didnt subscribe to any party and always voted based on a candidates views, of course it was all bullshit. And most of them went full on for the orange assbag.
MatthewG.
(362 posts)I agree with you - end of the day, Trumps post-Presidential travails probably wont change many peoples actual voting pattern. Hell be scorned; his party wont be.
Emile
(23,527 posts)was unfairly railroaded out of office 25 years after he resigned.
MatthewG.
(362 posts)I could be wrong, but Id say Trump takes unpleasant personal sleaze past Nixonian levels. Some of the really nutty conspiracy obsessives May choose to overlook that in a decades time, but Im not sure a lot of others will.
multigraincracker
(32,859 posts)Archie Bunkers around.
ultralite001
(898 posts)most who will be disclaiming whom???
The demise is strong with these ones...
That is all...
artemisia1
(756 posts)Trump is somewhat distinct from Bush in that he inspired a true political personality cult, but I doubt thats really going to linger on, except among the most deluded conspiracy obsessives.
Polybius
(15,606 posts)The Bush's were never trusted by conservatives. Look at Reagan. They never turned against him.
demosincebirth
(12,568 posts)fall apart than open their mouth and speak out. Sad, sad, sad.
Sogo
(5,048 posts)They'll be denouncing him next year....
MatthewG.
(362 posts)jcgoldie
(11,674 posts)...
prodigitalson
(2,506 posts)those of us who denying the new emperor will be long gone.