Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 04:17 AM Sep 2022

TS Ian, folks really need to be paying attention

especially along the west coast of FL. I am not normally an alarmist when it comes to these storms but this one really has my, and many other weather nerds, ears perked. There have been many comparisons to Hurricane Charley because of the the current forecast path. That is understandable but also foolish. Don't count on a hard right like Charley.

Hopefully the intensity models forecasters use are smoking crack but they have been very consistent the last 48 hours spitting out intensity numbers I've rarely seen in my 30 years of nerd tracking for a storm just formed in the last 24 hours.

The Tampa Bay area needs to be on extra high alert over the next 48 hours. Pinellas county has one of the highest number of trailers per square mile in the entire country, self explanitory. Plus, if it comes quick, there's no way off of that peninsula in time. I lived there for 12 years, still have friends and family there, and if I still lived there my ass would be gone by tomorrow night if trends continue. The potential for a storm like Michael plowing right into the bay area from the SSW is definitely on the table. If you live in the area have a plan in place now not to stay but to leave as early as possible. If it gets within 36 hours of a big one youre not going to be able to leave Pinellas county.

The Tampa Bay area has been at the top of list of vulnerability to a major hurricane for decades. John Hope (whose daughter Hurricane Camille was named after when he was at the NHC) used to say a strengthening major Cat 4 or 5 coming from the SSW into central Pinellas county could lead to the largest loss of life from a hurricane since the great Galveston storm, and he was a very smart man.

Once again I'm not trying to be an alarmist but please pay very close attention to this coming storm. The water, atmosphere and geography are almost perfectly aligned for this one. Be smart Be safe

23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
TS Ian, folks really need to be paying attention (Original Post) Cheezoholic Sep 2022 OP
Are we talking about Fiona? This one is truly bad, we secondwind Sep 2022 #1
NO!! This is newly formed TS Ian Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #2
Oh my goodness, I'm in the Caribbean and had not secondwind Sep 2022 #4
"And that's my point. Nobody is paying attention to this because of Fiona." BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #5
Lol, yes the map is one of the stranger ones I've seen Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #6
Some of that is due to what has become the 3-peat La Nina ENSO state BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #7
Levi's the best n/t Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #15
I love his voice. BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #18
K&R from an Andew survivor Sedona Sep 2022 #3
I live in a mobile home close to the water I am now scared to death. Oppaloopa Sep 2022 #8
Dont be and my intention was not to scare anyone Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Oppaloopa Sep 2022 #9
Remember Charlie very well sat in my closet for several hours FloridaBlues Sep 2022 #10
Trust me, we Keys Conchs pay attention to them all. tavernier Sep 2022 #11
I'm in Indiana also Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #22
I was confused about the name Ian because everybody said it would be Hermine catbyte Sep 2022 #12
Homestead here bluecollar2 Sep 2022 #14
Thats awesome getting being prepared Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #16
I hear you bluecollar2 Sep 2022 #17
Within the last hour... OneGrassRoot Sep 2022 #19
K & R malaise Sep 2022 #20
I grew up in Tampa. This looks nasty. n/t ms liberty Sep 2022 #21
Not a weather nerd but my spider sense is tingling Saoirse9 Sep 2022 #23

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. Are we talking about Fiona? This one is truly bad, we
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 04:22 AM
Sep 2022

went through two days of hell, with no power, etc. Thunder all the time, etc.

I hope everyone takes this seriously.

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
2. NO!! This is newly formed TS Ian
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 04:45 AM
Sep 2022

And that's my point. Nobody is paying attention to this because of Fiona. Fiona was and still is a formidable storm currently playing havoc around Nova Scotia with 100 mph winds and 90 foot seas. Ian just formed as a depression then a named storm yesterday. I will post the current NHC chart. But thats what I'm afraid of, people don't even know this thing is coming and the forecasters are very concerned as this could as strong or stronger than Fiona but in the Gulf of Mexico.

[img][/img]

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
4. Oh my goodness, I'm in the Caribbean and had not
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 05:13 AM
Sep 2022

heard about this yet. There’s so much going on everywhere. 😬

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
5. "And that's my point. Nobody is paying attention to this because of Fiona."
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 05:30 AM
Sep 2022

And then there are SOME of us ALSO paying attention to TS Gaston and TS Hermine.





Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
6. Lol, yes the map is one of the stranger ones I've seen
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:07 AM
Sep 2022

Especially Gaston taking a dive into the north central Atlantic. It has been a bit of a strange tropical season so far not just in the Atlantic but also in the far western Pacific where storms are not just moving into the the NW Pacific but are actually forming a good 500 miles farther North than normal and bombing out farther north.

The planes that were flying Fiona when it was near the islands were dropping bathyspheres that measure temp with depth and they were finding 85 degree water down to 800 feet. That's jet fuel for storms. No up-welling to calm the storm.

Where Ian is forecast to traverse surface waters are approaching 90F and research buoys are showing 85F at 1k feet down. Thats why the western tip of Cuba and the surrounding waters have been called the Cat 5 generator over the last decade. Any storm thats organized verticaly moving through that area its like opening up an NO2 tank going down the strip.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
7. Some of that is due to what has become the 3-peat La Nina ENSO state
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:32 AM
Sep 2022

and I do usually monitor the various flights into these and their dropsonde data.

There hasn't been much if any upwelling in the GOM or along the east coast since earlier in the season so the water has been able to heat up.

I like following Dr. Levi Cowan of Tropical Tidbits and his video analysis of the tropical cyclones (he was recently stationed in Hawai'i and now working for JTWC) -

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
18. I love his voice.
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:44 AM
Sep 2022

It's soothing as he describes all the dynamics of these systems.




National Hurricane Center
@NHC_Atlantic
·
Follow
Here are the 5 am EDT Saturday Key Messages for Tropical Storm #Ian. Get the latest storm information at http://hurricanes.gov
Key Messages: 1. Ian is expected to produce heavy rainfall and instances of flash flooding and possible mudslides in areas of higher terrain, particularly over Jamaica and Cuba. 2. Hurricane conditions are possible in the Cayman Islands by early Monday, with tropical storm conditions possible by late Sunday. Tropical storm conditions are possible in Jamaica on Sunday. 3. Early next week, Ian is forecast to move near or over western Cuba as a strengthening hurricane and then approach the Florida peninsula at or near major hurricane strength, with the potential for significant impacts from storm surge, hurricane-force winds, and heavy rainfall. While it is too soon to determine the exact magnitude and location of these impacts, residents in Cuba, the Florida Keys, and the Florida peninsula should ensure they have their hurricane plan in place and closely monitor forecast updates through the weekend.
5:10 AM · Sep 24, 2022




I'm watching Ian closely as we seem to have issues with "I" storms here in the Philly area (Irene, Isabel, Irma (remnants), Isaias, Ida).

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
13. Dont be and my intention was not to scare anyone
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:05 AM
Sep 2022

but to inform. If you live in the area and can leave if the worst happens do so. If you cant get a plan in place to get to an evacuation center. My father lives in a trailer in Largo and theres no way he can drive away if something happens but the county does have ways to get people to a safe place who need it. The key is to always plan if you live in these areas. If you need info you can PM meand I can tell you who/where to contact.

Once again, a lot can change. But IMO this is a storm to be concerned about this far out. Nobodys talking about it.

Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
10. Remember Charlie very well sat in my closet for several hours
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:48 AM
Sep 2022

As eye came over my area so please no repeat !
Getting prepared now hoping for the best for area and Florida

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
11. Trust me, we Keys Conchs pay attention to them all.
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:52 AM
Sep 2022

But you are right, many up on the mainland get complacent. I have a grandson in college in Fort Meyers, a step sister in St. Pete, a daughter in Clearwater, a best friend in the panhandle. We will be forming plans with them all sometime later today. I’m still in Indiana on the family farm until October and we are equipped for evacuees, as we’ve done before, last time being Irma. That bitch took my house in Key Largo. So as I said, we pay attention.

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
22. I'm in Indiana also
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:11 PM
Sep 2022

I had to drive down to Grand Isle LA during Ida last year to get my uncle out because he wouldn't leave. Got him out only a few hours before landfall. That was a harrowing experience. He lost everything but at least he lived, stubborn old man. Unfortunately we (He) relocated him up around Cedar Key about half a mile from the ocean so he can take his boat out and fish. I may be driving down there again in a few days if it heads his way and my mother can't get him to leave. And I will bring a straitjacket this time!

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
12. I was confused about the name Ian because everybody said it would be Hermine
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:59 AM
Sep 2022

That storm just off the coast of Africa snuck in ahead of Ian.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
14. Homestead here
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:12 AM
Sep 2022

Ian is supposed to go west of me but the dirty side is going to travel right across Miami-Dade.

I'll be precharging my generator today.

What's going to be bad is the aftermath.

Many here are without hurricane insurance.

It's going to be a tough couple of days.

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
16. Thats awesome getting being prepared
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:31 AM
Sep 2022

But if Ian goes major all sides are dirty. It's still a ways out so take the track with a grain. The Panhandle is still in play. The consistency in the intensity models has me concerned more than anything at the moment

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
17. I hear you
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:39 AM
Sep 2022

It's a fact of life now so really it's a matter of prepositioning. I live on 5 acres bur am surrounded by new housing estates.

All I can do now is try and get everything as low to the ground as possible.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
19. Within the last hour...
Sat Sep 24, 2022, 07:49 AM
Sep 2022

(and I see you posted this a few hours ago) evidently media is paying attention. I haven't been, so I went to Google "hurricane forecast tracks" and every result was about Ian as a big threat. Going to educate myself now about the various threats. I'm in North Carolina and haven't heard about much heading our way so I haven't been paying as much attention as I should.

But Ian seems to be very much on the radar now.

Hoping all in harm's way stay safe!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»TS Ian, folks really need...