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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is a very stupid person who happened to learn how to be corrupt from corrupt lawyers.
Trump learned while he was in office what he could get away with from lawyers. He learned he could commit crimes if he found a corrupt AG.
Trump was taught not to use e-mails. He was taught to attack those who tried to hold him accountable. He was taught to use other people to do his dirty work and then throw them under the bus if they got caught. He was taught how to delay investigations. He learned about pardons and how he could use them to get others to commit crimes or remain silent.
Trump is not, has never been a genius, a master criminal. He used lawyers, money to get away with everything. Being a textbook narcissist, he did not have morals, empathy, a heart to stop him from doing anything.
At this moment we are starting to see the real Trump. He no longer has the presidency, corrupt AG to protect him. He no longer has the ability to hire any lawyer he wants. He is losing everything that gave him cover for who he really is. A rich, narcissistic, criminal, dumb fuck.
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Joinfortmill
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imanamerican63
(13,785 posts)Dangerous, delirious and evil!
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I realized that stupid is more the root of all evil than money ever has been. Stupid leaves money in the dust for making people do terrible things.
It's the stupidity that's tearing the country apart. The money issues aren't helping, but the stupid is working overtime at making everyone miserable.
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)Without money and influence, he'd just be that annoying know-it-all loser at the end of the bar that everyone avoids.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)He's not bright enough to hack it as a used car salesman but that religion grift--hoo boy, that career field thrives on people who can create unadulterated nonsense out of thin air and then try to pass it off as something to pay good money for.
That is the one thing he's good at.
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)Though I think most televangelists are more talented, articulate, and charismatic than Donald.
jmbar2
(4,874 posts)I've been trying to figure out how someone so ignorant and lacking in self-awareness could pull off so many crimes. You're absolutely right - it was smart but corrupt lawyers who made it possible.
And they are everywhere trying to destroy democracy.
brush
(53,771 posts)in racism...denying Blacks and other POCs tenancy in their housing developments in Queens. The old man also taught him in asset evaluation tactics and tax cheating, which crooked attorney Roy Cohn helped him with. trump learned well, and when the old man died he inherited millions and stole even more from his dead brother's estate (Mary Trump's father).
He continued in the real estate game, stiffing vendors, shorting payments and if sued, using lawyers and delaying tactics to outlast small business vendors who couldn't keep paying attorney fees like he could.
I was just reading how many tradesmen, vendors, contractor etc. were forced into bankruptcy from not getting full payment from him, or not paid at all.
He has no conscience, not sense of guilt.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)He constantly makes mistakes, bad decisions. He fails at everything in the end. Lawyers covered up Trumps stupidity his entire life.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)might not sociopathy be considered as the primary root (or, radicle) of the majority of the mistakes and bad decisions that he makes? For impulsivity is a characteristic of sociopaths, and both stupid and smart sociopaths tend to make mistakes and bad decisions when acting impulsively. Add to this egocentricity ..... and a grandiose, impulsive individual is certain to make bad choices. Just as certainly, Trump's economic status opened more avenues for this to play out on, than those in "lower" classes.
In my experience, an intelligent person can be a fucking idiot. But I am not saying that is or is not the case with Trump. It's just a factor in attempting to determine the possibilities.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)
tanyev
(42,552 posts)A shameless sociopath will take the initiative and do countless things that most people would not consider doing and assume no one else would consider doing. By the time they figure out yes, that person really is doing all those awful things, the sociopath has gotten so far down the road that it's hard to catch him and stop him.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)When he ran for president he was told to run on immigration. He did not think of that himself. He had no idea how the government worked. He knew nothing about foreign policy. He knew nothing about the constitution. People had to tell him everything.
When Trump was impeached the first time for trying to bribe the president of Ukraine. He made that phone call while all kinds of people were listening in on the phone call. Col. Vindman for one. DUH!
I remember the recording Cohen had of him and Trump talking about some type of payments. Trump said something like, pay by check and Cohen responded, no, no, no, no. Trump relies on all kinds of people to do his thinking.
betsuni
(25,475 posts)I recently watched a Netflix series about the con artist Anna Delvey, and what's striking is her enormous confidence. That narcissistic overinflated confidence, like Trump.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I think there's a clip of Bundy on Youtube when the sheriff's office trotted him out for something related to his final arraignment in Florida. Good grief--you don't give a toxic narcissist that kind of opening to preen before a camera or the world!
Right on cue, Bundy made the entire thing about himself, thereby making a mockery of the sheriff and his stupid press conference. His confidence and swagger were horribly mesmerizing. Much of his insane fandom was born in that very moment.
Compared to TFG, though, Ol' Smokin' Ted was quite a bit smarter and far better looking. TFG has none of the brains or the looks of a Bundy, but all of the narcissism and even more of the evil. Bundy had a much lower body count, after all, because impersonal mass murder wasn't in his twisted DNA. TFG did kill that many...when he wasn't going out of his way to harm or make miserable even more people than Bundy could have dreamed of.
At least Bundy chased down purse snatchers and was a suicide hotline counselor at one time. Yeah, he probably did some of it for his own ego, and the suicide thing was undoubtedly him getting off to listening to people wanting to die. Still, name one decent thing TFG ever did, even to feed his own monstrous needs?
I can't name anything he's done that benefited humanity. Not a single one, not even to serve his own interests! Hell, even Bundy had enough of a moral compass to know how to do some good in the world. TFG can't even pretend to do that much.
It's incredible that any a person could be more evil than Ted Bundy, but TFG is exactly that.
tenderfoot
(8,426 posts)eom
Hekate
(90,662 posts)It is a multigenerational crime family
treestar
(82,383 posts)TFG was born corrupt, raised corrupt and is the ultimate practitioner of corrupt.
IcyPeas
(21,863 posts)just read this guy's wikipedia page. trump is, or tries to be, just like him.
Several have asserted that Cohn had considerable influence on the Presidency of Donald Trump. ..... "Cohn really paved the way for Trump and set him up with the right people, introduced him to Paul Manafort and Roger Stone—the people who helped him get to the White House." ... . I think Roy Cohn created a president from beyond the grave"
According to Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that.
According to New York attorney John Klotz, who had been investigating Cohn on behalf of his client Richard Dupont, Cohn provided protection for a "ring of pedophiles" operating out of Suite 233 at the Plaza Hotel. The ring, Klotz wrote, had "connections to the intelligence community.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn