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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTampa Bay has dropped 5 feet since this morning. Its gonna get backhanded hard
as the back of this thing passes.The high tide will be coming in all along the SW Fl coast from now through about 6 pm unfortunately. Also the St. Johns river is already backing up and beginning to enter flood stage. This thing is gonna be a water killer. They are expecting record river flooding all across central to NE Fl.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Florida has a pretty bleak future. More of these powerful storms are going to be hitting it regularly. And these storms will be how the sea claims the land there. Some of the surge might just make formerly dry parts of the coast permanently wetland going forward. The erosion will also take a toll. Eventually you'll have a major storm just leave parts of the Keys underwater.
I will not be retiring there when I retired in 15 or so years because of all of this.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Hekate
(90,788 posts)LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Hekate
(90,788 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Tell me more about retiring in Costa Rica?
Still get your social security? 401K funds transfer easily? Health Care?
Costs of living?
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)As a retiree you have to have income of $2000 a month.
So many lifestyles it hard to cover all.
Mountain, savanna, rain forest, gulf coast, west coast, mountains, city, country
..
We live on a continental divide. The weather makes it much drier on the other side of the mountain we live on.
Goods are expensive, labor is inexpensive.
Government is liked at the moment.
History of Costa Rica is interesting. Disbanded military in 1948 in favor of infra structure and education.
Fairly native in that Spanish ignored CR because no quantities of gold. Left many pristine areas.
We moved here site unseen. Read books and there are a zillion posts on YouTube about good and bad things about living in CR. Most are geared to living on a coast. That environment and life style is much different than where we live.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)I just googled a little about it.
As long as you're a US citizen you can college your social security abroad. So that wouldn't be an issue.
Isn't there some $200K investment to get dual citizenship? That wouldn't be a problem either really, by the time I retire I'll have double that in equity in our home here. $2K a month would be totally doable even if we retired early. If I retire closer to 66 like I plan we'll have 3 times that monthly income. Of course this is 15 years + away.
How long have you lived there?
Health Care costs are a fraction, is the care good?
And of course I'd learn Spanish before moving there.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Banking is very strict here. It takes lots of hoops to buy houses etc.
We have been here 3 years. Residency application took two years as COVID hit right after we applied.
I can only speak where live: on map
South end of Lake Arenal closer to Liberia than San Jose.
At this time you can find a lovely home for $250000 up.
Once you get Caja after residency, we pay $48 per month for two. Small things like appts May take time. But I have known friends have heart attacks and they said the care was excellent.
Prescriptions no cost. Many available over the counter.
If you dont have residency you have to leave every90 days to renew your visa and use of IS drivers license. There are many ways to accomplish that where we live. There are tour guide visa runs as a well.
We knew no Spanish. Not as much English here as books might say. Once again maybe more English in urban areas.
We found a Gringo free Spanish class. So we get by.
We have made many Tico friends. Everyone is so nice. But manaña doesnt mean tomorrow. It means, whatever you want done is not happening today. So learn patience.
Exchange rate fluctuates. When we moved here 10,000 colones was almost $19. Now its under $16.
Dont ship a US car. US parts come from Mexico. CR parts come from China.
Buy a car here. But cars are way more expensive and you have to pay cash.
I could go on forever. We love everything about CR. Including bugs snakes lizards and birds. Ants are the worst thing in CR.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Its expensive the first year while you travel to see everything. But once settled you dont put on a lot of miles in a year.
Also, CR had the second highest electricity rates in the world. I think its Italy that is higher. The new president says he will work to bring costs down.
Bluesaph
(703 posts)We need to find them an affordable assisted living situation.
Husband and I will retire there once he retires in 10 years. I go back and forth currently. Sandwiched between generations. But I cant complain.
We were in arenal in May and stayed at Baldi Hot Sorings in La Fortuna. Had a great time, although the service was widdled down severely and left us unimpressed.
The area and the locals were great!
Costa Rica cost of living has gone up due to inflation. Even food is expensive for the locals. In comparison to US though its a very affordable place to live.
pandr32
(11,611 posts)We came here to have a relaxed lifestyle over six years ago. We grow so many fruits and vegetables the high cost of food at the store is mitigated. We just had a star fruit smoothie.
It is a beautiful place and we feel quite safe. We are close to the ocean but on a slope and in a lava zone 3 so there isn't much risk of that. Before we moved here we lived in the shadow of Mt. Rainier so I think we are better off now.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)We spent the pandemic in Paradise. No mask holes. Half the restaurants stayed open because they are open air. I cant say its been great but compared to anyone else ..🍀🍀🍀🍀🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Kaleva
(36,340 posts)LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)We also have landslides, earthquakes and volcanoes.
We just had 9 killed many injured when bus with 60 people was swept 250 ft down a mountain in a landslide from torrential rain.
That doesnt make Costa Rica a terrible place to retire.
Kaleva
(36,340 posts)If s person is expecting to live just another decade or so and their will be no younger members of the family there, Costa Rica may be a good choice.
But for younger people and those with family, Costa Rica may not be a top pick.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)HAB911
(8,912 posts)will come back!
LiberalFighter
(51,083 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)mitch96
(13,924 posts)womanofthehills
(8,761 posts)Link to tweet
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Cha
(297,621 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)This is what Florida wants! They voted for Trump twice
Katinfl
(158 posts)I hate trump as much as the next person but what does he have to do with this? I live in FL, hate that this state voted for him twice but this climate change situation started long before him. The whole Republican Party is to blame in my opinion. Deny, deny, deny climate change and this will be happening all the more frequently. I really think this storm will bankrupt the state. It has long been said that FL is one hurricane away from financial disaster. IMHO.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Substitute "voted for Trump twice" with "vote for Republicans all the time" in my post and it becomes more accurate.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,430 posts)durablend
(7,464 posts)Better?
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)didn't vote for DeSantis. He barely won.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)and was near Port Charlotte and the bridge there (blow-out tides).
Sailboats were beached.
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)takes storm surge seriously after Michael? lol
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)It does give him a unique perspective of the comparison of this to that.
At Mexico Beach, there really weren't many places to get to elevation but where they are in Punta Gorda, there's plenty of protection.
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)This thing reminds me so much of Harvey in the way it's acting. The N/NW side of the eyewall is actually packing a bigger wind punch than the one they just went through. When I chase Harvey the backend was crazy violent.
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)that just rained and rained and rained all over southern and SE TX. I think it went out into the GOM at least twice and came back in a couple times since it was completely detached from any steering flow. I was actually watching the live stream with the infamous Jeff Piotrowski "blue shed". It came complete with an AC too.
About 30 minutes ago, one of these guys (Brad) left what was the same area where those boats were and one of the boats (not the sailboats that were not even visible anymore) broke free and had drifted towards shore where they parked the car, so the surge is slowly happening there. It got tangled in some high power electric lines (the earlier pics of the boats showed that area as a nearly dry bed) -
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)I swear, the backsides of majors are worse from a wind standpoint when they hit perpendicular to the shore due to frictional interaction with land. People are freaking out that the backside of this thing is worse.
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)to check on things. Most had evacuated but a couple who remained were okay and I think another couple were taken out to go somewhere else that was safe - where those who stayed were warned of that back side of the eye.
Punta Gorda is getting destroyed by wind now as one could see from their stream back to the garage. Apparently this is the same garage that Cantori is using (and they were all cracking about it and trying not to photo-bomb his broadcast ).
A lot of trees down and stripped plus lots of sheet metal blown around and street signs down all over the streets.
Listening to another of that group - there was someone on a speaker phone to them who just said there was "20" rain west of N. 40 (which will have some impact on I75), so this thing is producing a lot of the expected rain.
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)St. Johns river could get close depending on the future track. There will be areas that get 2 feet of rain or more no doubt.
This thing looks like its speeding up a little and we're not seeing a significant N turn yet. I am amazed how this thing is still generating -80C thunderstorms around the center. If this thing goes offshore south of the cape it's a whole new ballgame for the SE coast.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/satlooper.php?region=09L&product=ir
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)where the breakers are going through and over the fence.
NOAA Sats tweeted out a "sunset over Ian" gif -
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Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)My mother lived on Isle of Palms SC back in the mid 80's. I had already been storm chasing tornadoes in the midwest since high school with the advanced technology of the time, roll down the window, look and ya might get lucky lol. I had the map on the wall with thumbtacks tracking hurricane positions from HAM radio reports lol. I just happened to go down to SC for a visit the week Hugo came in, that was my first Hurricane. They owned Berts Bar out on Sullivans Island. It blew the roof off the bar and there was 3 feet of sand and pluff mud on the inside. The 2 pool tables were gone, never found them. We rode it out about 2 miles inland. It was nuts. I ended up living on the beach in FL and SC for the next 30 years. Chased hurricanes every chance I got, sometimes they chased me lol.
The technology from the sats to everything else we have today is amazing compared to what we had back then. Especially the modeling. It's getting really good just compared to 10 years ago. After Ida last year think my chasing days are done unless I absolutely have t, or I get to ride in a Hurricane Hunter lol.
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)I would say my "first" awareness of the damage from a hurricane was 1972 with Hurricane Agnes that really flooded out so much of PA. I was a Girl Scout back then and had gone to a 2-week overnight camp in 1971 that was located near Gilbertsville, PA. The following year when I went back for another summer, the place was almost unrecognizable - mainly because the big creek that ran through the camp property was impacted by the excessive rain/flooding from Agnes (I had gone a few weeks after Agnes came through). And that pretty much turbo charged my weather hobby at that point.
We have had the remnants of many come through here in Philly over the years. I did actually ride out a Cat 1 - Cosme - in Acapulco in 1989. That particular Hurricane Cosme made landfall just a tiny bit south of Acapulco Bay and the eye actually passed over us overnight and I remember all the rain/wind as it came in (and all manner of ships were taking refuge in Acapulco Bay), and then when the winds died down, the skies cleared, and the stars were out. But after that, all hell broke loose with the convection as the back edge of the eye came overheard.
The storm weakened as it cut across Mexico and was down to a remnant low that ended up reforming in the GOM that was renamed TS Allison, land-falling in TX I think. The remnant of Allison eventually came up here to Philly, so I had the opportunity to experience the same storm twice!
After that, the NHC made a decision to have TCs keep the same name if they cross oceans, including if they have enough of a renmant to regenerate in that other ocean.
Haven't chased but have a couple stations and post on a weather forum. Also have a couple radar programs (GRLevel3 and GR2Analyst) to get my fix, among other things.
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)That name got retired in 2001. Never was a hurricane either. One of the deadliest Tropical Storms ever. I remembered that thing never got strong but lasted for like 2 weeks. Had to wiki that one to be sure but yeah, one of the deadliest Tropical Storms ever. The 2001 version kinda pulled the same stunt, only worse. It goes to show, 60mph or 160mph, water is the killer. You got the kinder gentler version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Allison
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)If you look at that track, you can see why (and how what was left of that one came up here as well)!
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The earlier "Allison" associated with Cosme was in 1989.
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Another that I saw the aftermath of was the 1982 Hurricane Iwa that plowed through Hawai'i (and I went there on vacation in 1986 4 years later). By the time I went there, the ferns that adorned the famous "Fern Grotto" on Kauai'i were only just starting to grow back after being completely stripped from the cave entrance. Then 6 years later, Iniki blew through and stripped them again. I think since then with the help of conservationists, they have recovered.
Mother Nature.
clementine613
(561 posts)Cha
(297,621 posts)People in the Path!
BumRushDaShow
(129,433 posts)Link to tweet
@NHC_Atlantic
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305 PM EDT 28 Sep -- Hurricane #Ian has made landfall as an extremely dangerous Category 4 hurricane near Cayo Costa, Florida with maximum sustained winds at 150 mph. The minimum pressure from Air Force Reconnaissance Hurricane Hunters was 940 mb.
Latest: http://hurricanes.gov/#Ian
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3:15 PM · Sep 28, 2022