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RoeVWade

(890 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 12:48 PM Oct 2022

If Joe Biden doesn't run in 2024

I think if Biden really doesn't plan to run in 2024 this is what should happen.

- Go ahead and resign 2023. *make an excuse about health if necessary.

-Might as well give Harris a shot to prove herself. She will benefit I think from lower expectations. And there's always the possibility it will be a positive last year for her.

-Second thing that can happen here is bring in a dynamic Vice President. Another positive, particularly if he or she can make an impactful impression. This sets up another possible presidential candidate.

Good idea, terrible idea?

I do really have my doubts he will run again.

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If Joe Biden doesn't run in 2024 (Original Post) RoeVWade Oct 2022 OP
Talking about the 2024 election is what Magats want us to do. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #1
There are hundreds of very important elections happening one month from now blogslug Oct 2022 #2
Absolutely NOT Hekate Oct 2022 #3
It has to do with his age and that reality not his job. RoeVWade Oct 2022 #4
Excuse me. We elected him to a 4 year term in office & he's not even half way thru it. Hekate Oct 2022 #7
You can't win the chess game if you don't think ahead. RoeVWade Oct 2022 #8
Sick, sick of pounding on his age. Enough already! moonscape Oct 2022 #9
Being realistic about the potential, I don't want to engage in fantasy facts like a Trump loyalist. RoeVWade Oct 2022 #12
Well, you are. RW loves to do this to him/us. moonscape Oct 2022 #18
Well, I'm not declaring the future as fact. Nor am I claiming fantasy facts like a stolen electiom RoeVWade Oct 2022 #20
Can't win a chess game by changing the rules to suit you. KS Toronado Oct 2022 #14
Can't win a chess game by dumping the board over, either Hekate Oct 2022 #23
I agree PatSeg Oct 2022 #17
I recognize your point about what's important now, but it makes me think we can't walk and chew gum RoeVWade Oct 2022 #19
Yes, I understand what you're saying PatSeg Oct 2022 #22
lol this is super messy WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #5
Even if he does resign in 2023, there will be a fierce primary in 2024 Polybius Oct 2022 #6
Your concern is noted. Enjoy your stay. n/t ms liberty Oct 2022 #10
COUNTDOWN TO MIDTERMS: 35 DAYS! Hortensis Oct 2022 #11
I have a better idea. Biden runs and wins in '24. And Kamala runs and wins in '28. End of story. Beastly Boy Oct 2022 #13
+++ I really dislike this speculation, pushed by the editorilizing press pushing that President JohnSJ Oct 2022 #21
No thanks. If Biden doesn't run, there will be a competitive primary. tritsofme Oct 2022 #15
It's October 2022 and we have a midterm in November lees1975 Oct 2022 #16

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
2. There are hundreds of very important elections happening one month from now
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 12:53 PM
Oct 2022

How about we get through that before we predict the next race like it's fantasy football?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
3. Absolutely NOT
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 12:57 PM
Oct 2022

Joe is doing a fantastic job — just give him a Senate and House that will work with him.

As for scenarios like yours — please just stop it. The only reason a president resigns is to avoid impeachment. It wouldn’t show what a dynamic person VP Harris is; it would cause chaos.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
7. Excuse me. We elected him to a 4 year term in office & he's not even half way thru it.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:07 PM
Oct 2022

What you propose would be extremely destructive to the Democratic Party and everything we are trying to get done.

Are you sure you’re in the right place?

RoeVWade

(890 posts)
8. You can't win the chess game if you don't think ahead.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:14 PM
Oct 2022

I don't see any damage for a President who leaves for health reasons due to age. It's a legitimate concern, is it not?

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
9. Sick, sick of pounding on his age. Enough already!
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

Why not pound on his exceptional competence?

RoeVWade

(890 posts)
12. Being realistic about the potential, I don't want to engage in fantasy facts like a Trump loyalist.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:24 PM
Oct 2022

And neither should anyone here. I'm not trying to slight him.

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
18. Well, you are. RW loves to do this to him/us.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:40 PM
Oct 2022

Fantasy facts? They make =nothing= of tfg’s age yet goad us into a Biden-age thing. I don’t get pissed off often, but ‘fantasy facts like a Trump loyalist’ accomplished it.

RoeVWade

(890 posts)
20. Well, I'm not declaring the future as fact. Nor am I claiming fantasy facts like a stolen electiom
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:46 PM
Oct 2022

That's all I mean.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
14. Can't win a chess game by changing the rules to suit you.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:26 PM
Oct 2022

tfg changed them and he's headed to prison.

Besides lie about being unhealthy?

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
17. I agree
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:34 PM
Oct 2022

I don't even think about whether Biden will run for a second term until people on TV start talking about it and that is often right after they praise his many accomplishments. People need to stop thinking about 2024 and pay attention to what is happening right now.

All this talk is just feeding the republican narrative. They don't have a decent candidate for 2024, so they deflect to Biden's age and ability to serve two terms. Hey, a lot of people thought he was too old in 2020 and he has been amazing.

You know, I live in New Hampshire and almost all the republican ads I've seen have just been anti Maggie Hassan, but rarely ever mention their candidate's name(s). They have some of the worst candidates ever right now. I don't think it will be much better come 2024.

RoeVWade

(890 posts)
19. I recognize your point about what's important now, but it makes me think we can't walk and chew gum
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:41 PM
Oct 2022

nt

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
22. Yes, I understand what you're saying
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:53 PM
Oct 2022

but always talking about it plants the seed in minds of people who weren't even considering who the Democratic candidate will be in 2024. That in turn gives way to doubts about whether Biden can or will run. At least we can wait until after the mid-terms to discuss it and even then, we should be praising his many accomplishments instead of implying he can't do the job because of his age.

Once that idea gets planted in the consciousness of the population, it is hard to change. It becomes the comedian's punch line and social media meme.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
6. Even if he does resign in 2023, there will be a fierce primary in 2024
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:06 PM
Oct 2022

As well there should. You don't become a Party's nominee for President until the people vote for you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. COUNTDOWN TO MIDTERMS: 35 DAYS!
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:22 PM
Oct 2022

One way or another, THIS election will help decide our future.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
13. I have a better idea. Biden runs and wins in '24. And Kamala runs and wins in '28. End of story.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:26 PM
Oct 2022
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
21. +++ I really dislike this speculation, pushed by the editorilizing press pushing that President
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:49 PM
Oct 2022

Biden won't run, is too old, or some other crap without merit, two months before the midterms.

If President Biden feels good enough and healthy, and especially if we manage to keep the majority in both Houses, with at least a two seat majority in the Senate after the midterms, not only do I think he will be our candidate in 2024, but we will accomplish an amazing amount of progressive legislation, including codifying Roe


tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
15. No thanks. If Biden doesn't run, there will be a competitive primary.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:26 PM
Oct 2022

And I would be looking at a different candidate from the one you suggest.

Unless Biden could no longer fulfill his duties, there is no reason for him to consider resignation.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
16. It's October 2022 and we have a midterm in November
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:32 PM
Oct 2022

and that's the election I'm focusing on.

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