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Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:24 AM

Just like I predicted, the Oath Keepers trial would show evidence of a conspiracy between

The Oath Keepers and Trumps inner circle.

Prosecutors presented Signal text messages from Rhodes to Oath Keepers and the chat group Friends of Stone. A chat group headed by Roger Stone. Other members of Stones chat group include Ali Alexander, Stop the Steal organizer, and the leader of the Proud Boys, Henry Tarrio.

Another member of the Oath Keepers, Kelly SoRelle was a volunteer for Lawyers for Trump. The DOJ has charged SoRelle with 4 counts in connection with the coup. Sorelle was videotaped with Rhodes outside the capital on J6. There are also text messages from SoRelle to Trump aides prior to J6. One of the texts was to Andrew Giuliani.


This trail is setting the stage for future conspiracy trials of Trumps inner circle and Trump himself.

Like I said before, you do not want your name mentioned at the Oath Keepers trial.

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Reply Just like I predicted, the Oath Keepers trial would show evidence of a conspiracy between (Original post)
fightforfreedom Oct 6 OP
magicarpet Oct 6 #1
gab13by13 Oct 6 #2
BlueMTexpat Oct 6 #3
Samrob Oct 6 #9
gab13by13 Oct 6 #13
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 6 #11
we can do it Oct 6 #14
gab13by13 Oct 6 #16
gab13by13 Oct 6 #15
fightforfreedom Oct 6 #21
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 6 #23
gab13by13 Oct 6 #25
Evolve Dammit Oct 6 #38
jaxexpat Oct 6 #18
Beastly Boy Oct 6 #27
onetexan Oct 6 #30
Old Crank Oct 6 #4
Elessar Zappa Oct 6 #6
Old Crank Oct 6 #7
Captain Zero Oct 6 #24
soldierant Oct 6 #36
Frustratedlady Oct 6 #5
jaxexpat Oct 6 #20
Tommymac Oct 6 #33
no_hypocrisy Oct 6 #8
LaMouffette Oct 6 #10
calimary Oct 6 #12
stopdiggin Oct 6 #17
fightforfreedom Oct 6 #19
gab13by13 Oct 6 #26
lambchopp59 Oct 6 #22
Turbineguy Oct 6 #28
fightforfreedom Oct 6 #29
Evolve Dammit Oct 6 #39
kentuck Oct 6 #31
fightforfreedom Oct 6 #32
ancianita Oct 6 #34
progressoid Oct 6 #35
BaronChocula Oct 6 #37

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:34 AM

1. Hold them all accountable.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:36 AM

2. We knew this 8 months ago.

When Mark Meadows goes before a grand jury wake me up. Roger Stone will never flip on Trump, but sending his ass to jail is a start.

Time is what matters to Trump. A Trump trial would never begin until 2024, 2025?

We had better concentrate on keeping the House and adding to the Senate, that should be our goal because if we lose the House the Magats will control the purse strings and believe me they will shut down the government just to stop the investigations into Trump.

Vote, like our democracy depends on it.

Go Letitia.
Go Fani.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:46 AM

3. THIS!!!!!

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:02 AM

9. An indictment of a few GOP Reps can help us keep the House.

We must keep pressing forward.

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Response to Samrob (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:26 AM

13. I agree 100%

Holding some top traitors accountable will drive up Democratic enthusiasm. I don't believe in polls but I did see a poll that claims that Magat enthusiasm to vote is 2 points higher than democratic enthusiasm. As I said I don't believe in polls so I take that with a grain of salt. Yes, holding anyone accountable from Trump's inner circle will drive up our enthusiasm.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:14 AM

11. WAKE UP!


Meadows has gone before a grand jury recently.

You asked to be woken up. Drop your Garland is a shitty AG agenda. WAKE UP!

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:32 AM

14. Know-it-all wants attention.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:42 AM

16. I know that Trump only wants to delay everything, and that is what he is doing.

I know that the insurrection has grown since the 1/6 attack on our Capitol.

I know that a lot of people do not realize how serious the situation is that we are in.

I know that the 2022 election may be the determining factor in whether we keep our democratic Constitutional republic.

People who believe that everything is going according to plan to save our democracy, scare me to death. A former president stole top secret documents and kept them for 18 months and still to this day has not returned all of them. I surmise this, if Trump had returned all of the stolen documents when he was asked to return them, none of us would know anything about what he did, unless some reporter broke the news.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:32 AM

15. Relax, we are on the same side.

Mark Meadows gave DOJ the exact same information he gave the J6 committee.

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has complied with a subpoena from the Justice Department’s investigation into events surrounding January 6, 2021, sources familiar with the matter tell CNN, making him the highest-ranking Trump official known to have responded to a subpoena in the federal investigation.

Meadows turned over the same materials he provided to the House select committee investigating the US Capitol attack, one source said, meeting the obligations of the Justice Department subpoena, which has not been previously reported.

Wake me up when Meadows is called before a federal grand jury to provide new information. There, I fixed it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:53 AM

21. Meadows may have already appeared before a Grand Jury.

They are secret.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:05 AM

23. Yes. And Garland's investigation leaks less than many. . . . nt

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:07 AM

25. Do you watch Nicolle Wallace?

Give it a shot if you don't.

Here is what I think about; Trump's strategy is to be patient, to delay everything until his Magat traitors get back into power. I am being told the same thing, be patient, everything may be going according to plan.

I know this, we are in a far worse place right now today than we were in on 1/6 2021, the insurrection has grown, beginning with DOJ doing absolutely nothing to the Cyber Ninjas, look at Arizona now.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:23 PM

38. Agreed. And Nicole is doing a good job of covering what all other networks don't.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:46 AM

18. Spot on.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:26 AM

27. +1

Holding Trump accountable is a legislative issue, not an executive one. If you want DOJ to accelerate the process, new laws need to be passed. Theoretically, this is possible, but only if dems hold the House AND the Senate. A tall order. We, the voters are the only ones who can do anything about it and are ultimately responsible for the consequences. In the mean time, blaming DOJ for "sitting on their hands" is nothing more than a deflection.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:08 AM

30. THIS!!

The black female AGs need to save us. Black women have been saving democracy. We owe a debt to them bigly.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:48 AM

4. I've been saying for months

Round up that whole administration, his family, and take them all them to Guantanamo for interrogation.

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Response to Old Crank (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:55 AM

6. In some countries he'd face a firing squad.

He’s lucky he lives in the US.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:57 AM

7. I would say

Every country whose leader he admires would act that way.

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Response to Old Crank (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:05 AM

24. And expel all his Russian associates in the US

Hard telling what damage they are still doing to our country.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:43 PM

36. Maybe even more damage

being done by the ones in the troll farms.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:49 AM

5. Lawyers for Trump? Really? That group that Trump stiffs?

If they are that stupid, who would hire them? Well, Trump for one!

Meant to add that if Flynn isn't on that list, I'll be totally shocked. If he is, I totally missed it.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:52 AM

20. Everyone knows that Trump followers aren't in it for the money.

Their motivations remain a mystery but it's not for money.

My theory is that there is an undiagnosed disease common to Trumpists and its evidence is unapologetic stupidity.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:59 PM

33. Or perhaps it's just simple extortion. nt



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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:58 AM

8. There HAD to be communications between them in order to

organize, coordinate, and effect an attack that wouldn't fall apart. Otherwise, it would have been a generic riot with no plan.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:12 AM

10. What also needs to be happening now is proposing a Constitutional Amendment to limit pardons.

Would it pass? Nope. But it would be another way to showcase ahead of the midterms how corrupt the GOP is.

Democratic candidates could run ads showing Traitor Trump promising to pardon the Jan. 6 rioters (and have a montage of all the corrupt pardons he made, such as Bannon, Stone, and Flynn) and how the Democratic candidates' Republican opponents voted against limiting the power to pardon and thereby allowing Traitor Trump and future corrupt presidents to keep abusing the pardon power.

Also, the Brennan Center for Justice has an article on things Congress could do legislatively to limit the pardon. Excerpt:

Short of amending the Constitution, Congress could limit the pardon power legislatively. One bill, the Protecting Our Democracy Act, would require the Justice Department and the president to provide Congress materials pertaining to a pardoned individual’s prosecution and pardon. The bill would also make it clear that pardons could not be doled out in exchange for bribes. Another provision would outlaw self-pardons.

There is strong reason to believe this legislation would withstand constitutional challenges. With respect to the bribery provisions, it is widely accepted that Congress may impose criminal penalties on a presidential pardon issued to bribe a recipient. Moreover, DOJ has issued two opinions consistent with this understanding. The more recent one, from 1995, concluded that applying the federal bribery statute to the president “raises no separation of powers question, let alone a serious one.”



[link:https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-prevent-abuse-presidents-pardon-power|

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:26 AM

12. I just had a silly thought, as soon as I saw Kelly SoRelle's name.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/01/texas-oath-keepers-kellye-sorelle/amp/

I couldn’t help wondering if gals like her thought the insurrection might be a good way to meet guys. After all, the ratio was certainly there for - um - “success” in that “venture”, shallow as that might sound.

Reminded me of my college radio days. I couldn’t help noticing how easy the pickings were if I’d just been looking for dates. There were always 40 or 50 guys at those staff meetings, and only three or four of us girls. Similar lopsided staffing at most of the stations I worked at, because so few women were part of the staff back then. But I was always much more attracted to the idea of getting on the air.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:45 AM

17. yes. this is where the real work

of the investigations plays out. 'The threads that bind.' Tying these characters together - and establishing the manner and details in which they cooperated - is the essential part of laying out the actual crimes that were committed.

It isn't simple, it isn't a slam dunk - and it isn't "something that should have been done months ago."

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:51 AM

19. This is why this trial is so important.

If the DOJ gets convictions in this trial it will prove there was a conspiracy. Anyone connected to the conspiracy would be in legal jeopardy. If they don't get convictions in this trial that could be problematic for future convictions.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:09 AM

26. 3 Oath Keepers have already pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy.

I assume that they are cooperating with DOJ. Yes, getting a conviction in a trial is another step above that.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:59 AM

22. I had to cringe just pulling up behind a minivan with Booth Kreepers sticker yesterday

I was sort of surprised the car wasn't littered with Trump stickers too.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:44 AM

28. In the mean time

trump is working hard to make sure he is not held to account for his role.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:54 AM

29. Trump is no longer president, he can no longer corrupt the DOJ.

He and his lawyers can delay but they cannot stop the investigations or the indictments that are coming.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 07:26 PM

39. There are Orange allies in the DOJ. Garland inherited a "snake pit." Time will tell, but the fact

that no indictments of the inner circle have occurred, speaks volumes.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:20 AM

31. If any of them are found guilty of "seditious conspiracy"....

...it will probably scare the crap out of a lot of the insurrectionists in Congress?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:24 AM

32. I think you are right.

It will definitely scare the hell out of people like Roger Stone, Eastman , Meadows, etc.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:04 PM

34. Not just scare. The DOJ's evidence on them will get them charged with aiding and abetting,

or as accessories after the fact. Scared or not, they'd better get ready.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:36 PM

35. Sorry. Don't see Trump going to trial for this.

He'll drag it out until he croaks.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:52 PM

37. Henry Tarrio

LMFAO

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