Tue Oct 18, 2022, 05:56 PM
JoanofArgh (14,934 posts)
Norman Lear turned 100 years old recently and is tweeting
Producer of All in the Family, Good Times, One Day At A Time, The Jeffersons, Spinal Tap, Stand By Me, Princess Bride - Author of Even This I Get to Experience
Link to tweet ?s=20&t=EW3J60Bw2U86ufqAW9m7nQ Norman Lear @TheNormanLear · 41m I was 9 years old when my dad was found to have committed fraud & was sent to prison for a few years. Alone in bed one night, my father away, I was playing with a crystal set radio and came across the vicious antisemitic voice of Father Coughlin railing against American Jews. 1/3 I’m confident that that horrifying moment resulted in my early enlistment in WWII and the 52 combat missions over Nazi Germany that followed. 2/3 Norman Lear @TheNormanLear · 40m Today, having recently turned 100, I read Donald Trump’s appalling words about American Jews, and I am nine years old again. The phrase, a horse’s ass, was an everyday expression when I was nine and it occurs to me again now. 3/3
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JoanofArgh | Oct 2022 | OP |
hlthe2b | Oct 2022 | #1 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #13 | |
hlthe2b | Oct 2022 | #15 | |
Sanity Claws | Oct 2022 | #23 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #26 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #30 | |
cbabe | Oct 2022 | #19 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #28 | |
JoanofArgh | Oct 2022 | #29 | |
SCantiGOP | Oct 2022 | #17 | |
Marthe48 | Oct 2022 | #2 | |
Mysterian | Oct 2022 | #18 | |
Jedi Guy | Oct 2022 | #21 | |
LisaM | Oct 2022 | #24 | |
Cha | Oct 2022 | #3 | |
mcar | Oct 2022 | #4 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #14 | |
MustLoveBeagles | Oct 2022 | #5 | |
blogslug | Oct 2022 | #6 | |
Solly Mack | Oct 2022 | #7 | |
soldierant | Oct 2022 | #8 | |
Behind the Aegis | Oct 2022 | #9 | |
uponit7771 | Oct 2022 | #10 | |
nightwing1240 | Oct 2022 | #11 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Oct 2022 | #25 | |
70sEraVet | Oct 2022 | #12 | |
calimary | Oct 2022 | #20 | |
Heather MC | Oct 2022 | #16 | |
burrowowl | Oct 2022 | #22 | |
yellowdogintexas | Oct 2022 | #27 |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 05:59 PM
hlthe2b (95,545 posts)
1. Of course he must have heard that horrendous "Father" Coughlin. He's seen & heard a lot of good
in his life, but certainly lived through some of the absolute worst as well.
Hang in there with us Norman. We need your intelligence, grace, and voice. |
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 08:54 AM
yellowdogintexas (20,263 posts)
13. I can't imagine hearing that stuff at the age of 9.
It must have been horrifying.
Just recently I learned just how awful Coughlin was. If you can get it, read Gangsters vs. Nazis: How Jewish Mobsters Battled Nazis in WW2 Era America. I knew there was an American Nazi movement but had NO idea how extensive it was. Free on Kindle Unlimited or Prime Reading This was a real education on the American Nazi movement in the 1930s. |
Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 08:55 AM
hlthe2b (95,545 posts)
15. I will check it out. Thanks. Rachel Maddows ULTRA podcast is touching on all this as well
Worth a listen. New episodes weekly.
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #15)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:29 AM
Sanity Claws (21,184 posts)
23. I was going to recommend that podcast too
It shows how extensive the network of American nazis and their sympathizers were, including US Senators, local police.
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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #23)
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #15)
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:22 PM
yellowdogintexas (20,263 posts)
30. I started watching Ultra last night. Eagerly awaiting the
next installment
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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 10:56 AM
cbabe (1,963 posts)
19. Excellent book.
Response to cbabe (Reply #19)
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 11:11 AM
yellowdogintexas (20,263 posts)
28. aha! someone else who has read it! nt
Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #13)
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 03:24 PM
JoanofArgh (14,934 posts)
29. Just downloaded this. Thanks for posting.
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 10:01 AM
SCantiGOP (13,056 posts)
17. I remember Rev Carl Mcintire
He was a far-right fundamentalist minister on the radio in the 70’s. The one thing I distinctly remember him saying, as he was trashing hippies and anti-war protestors, was that Jesus wouldn’t be the simple, gentle figure we know from the Bible when he came back, but would be riding a tank as the head of a world-wide army destroying Communism.
So much for being the omnipotent Prince of Peace; he was coming back as Rambo. |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:05 PM
Marthe48 (11,641 posts)
2. Norman Lear has done so much to fight hatred
All in the Family, had a positive influence on people in my parents' generation, open-minded people, anyway.
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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 10:12 AM
Mysterian (3,594 posts)
18. All in the Family was a monumental accomplishment
That TV show rocked the whole country.
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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jedi Guy (2,741 posts)
21. I recently had a discussion with someone about All in the Family.
Their position was that it is a racist relic of a bygone era and shouldn't be aired or available for viewing in 2022. When I watched the show as a kid in the 80s and 90s, I perceived that Archie and his racism were the butt of the joke. The show was mocking Archie and his fellow travelers rather than promoting their worldview.
In some ways the show surely is a relic of bygone days. One could argue it's not exactly progressive in terms of women's issues. And it's most certainly a relic in the sense that it depicts owning a home and raising a family on a single income. But it definitely didn't promote racism. Also, it was and is funny as hell, so there's that. |
Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:04 PM
LisaM (27,026 posts)
24. Maude was a spinoff
I think it was progressive on women's issues.
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Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:10 PM
Cha (282,409 posts)
3. Good on Norman Lear!💙🕯🕊🌈 nt
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:28 PM
mcar (40,359 posts)
4. An American treasure!
Response to mcar (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 08:55 AM
yellowdogintexas (20,263 posts)
14. He certainly is. We need more just like him nt
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:31 PM
MustLoveBeagles (10,697 posts)
5. K&R
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:46 PM
blogslug (37,017 posts)
6. He also runs a very good organization started in 1981: People for the American Way
https://www.pfaw.org/
Familiar with Right Wing Watch? That's a PFAW website. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_American_Way |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:15 PM
soldierant (4,886 posts)
8. IIRC, when he turned 90, someone brought up the poem Edward Lear wrote
about himself. Much of it is quite specific to Edward, but the first and last verses aren't bad -
How pleasant to know Mr. Lear, Who has written such volumes of stuff. Some think him ill-tempered and queer, But a few find him pleasant enough.... He reads, but he does not speak, Spanish, He cannot abide ginger beer; Ere the days of his pilgrimage vanish, How pleasant to know Mr. Lear! |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:54 AM
Behind the Aegis (51,521 posts)
9. back to page 1
Look, a Jewish man speaks out against anti-Semitism!
Good for him! |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 06:12 AM
uponit7771 (88,365 posts)
10. K&R,
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 08:04 AM
nightwing1240 (1,627 posts)
11. Norman Lear did so much good with the character of Archie Bunker
In doing so, Mr Lear showed quite clearly the ignorance and stupidity of many many racist, misogynistic and homophobic views and stereotypes. My father at first didn't get it but as time went on, his views changed seeing how ridiculous and stupid Archie was. That made me quite proud and happy. Thank goodness my father was open minded and passed that on to myself and my brothers.
Happy Birthday Mr Lear! |
Response to nightwing1240 (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 05:57 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (26,647 posts)
25. Compare Lear's work with the crap that was on tv at the time. He did good.
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 08:14 AM
70sEraVet (2,234 posts)
12. Too bad we can't go on bombing raids over Mar-a-Lago.
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 09:41 AM
Heather MC (8,084 posts)
16. As disgusting as it is I think the Orange monkey sent that tweet out because K West
Was getting too much attention for his antisemitic comments.
And the giant Orange man baby got jealous |
Response to JoanofArgh (Original post)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:17 AM
burrowowl (16,575 posts)
22. I was 5 and I remember hearings by the house on
Unamerican activities, scared me. Same crap still does.
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Response to burrowowl (Reply #22)
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 11:09 AM
yellowdogintexas (20,263 posts)
27. Same here with Army-McCarthy hearings (I was 8)
She also explained why.
That was the beginning of intense political discussions over the rest of her life. I still think it was very cool that she explained to an 8 year old kid why the hearings were much more important than watching cartoons. Of course as it turned out nothing else was on. I learned from her about the Holocaust & why she hated Nixon. |