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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:24 AM Oct 2022

The only way we can lose our democracy is if the people vote to get rid of it.

I do not believe the polls, they better be wrong.

The American people witnessed J6 and the overturning of Roe. This election is about our democracy and our rights. Everything else is secondary.

If the people vote to put the Republicans in charge of congress they will be voting for many traitors who attempted to end our democracy on J6. They will be voting for people who want to take our rights away.

This election is all about the America people. Are they competent or are they self destructive?

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The only way we can lose our democracy is if the people vote to get rid of it. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Oct 2022 OP
The only way we can lose our democracy is if the people mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 #1
+1 Meadowoak Oct 2022 #2
Good point, same thing. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #3
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #4
I think that in the R's minds, the Democrats are a threat to democracy, just as we believe they are. panader0 Oct 2022 #5
That's how propaganda works. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #6
We're fighting a RW propaganda network and a "bothsides" M$M. GOTV! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #7
Or don't show up to vote to keep it lame54 Oct 2022 #8
Here is where you might be wrong... Caliman73 Oct 2022 #9
Or, the short version Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #10

panader0

(25,816 posts)
5. I think that in the R's minds, the Democrats are a threat to democracy, just as we believe they are.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 11:17 AM
Oct 2022

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
9. Here is where you might be wrong...
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 01:40 PM
Oct 2022

Not that I want you to be wrong, but the evidence from past elections, does not bode well.

The American people witnessed J6 and the overturning of Roe.

Some Americans did. Many did not. Of those who did, some have moved on, being "bored" by "politics". Americans have been conditioned to think of "history" and "politics" as something boring and out of touch with their everyday lives. There are other things that are important to every day life such as gas prices and food prices, interest rates, etc... While those of us who pay attention know that those things are about POLITICS as in, who is in power, what policies are they creating, etc... and trends can be seen from studying accurate history; most people do not make that connection. They do not understand that the gas prices are a result of situations that occurred years ago with the pandemic and short supply chains, that OPEC is cutting production to boost prices, that supply chain issues continue to have worldwide consequences. They see "Democrats have majorities in Congress and the President is a Democrat" and that is all of the scrutiny they give any issue.

I do think that they are underestimating the effect that Dobbs will have on bringing women and those who support their bodily autonomy out to vote. It may be difficult to measure that in polls.

For a "modern" nation the United States has one of the worst levels of political participation. As I said, people have been conditioned to think of Politics as something separate, something outside of what affects them daily, and even as something dirty that the average person wants to avoid. People likely know many of the statistics of their favorite teams or players. They try to gain massive insight into what will be happening on their favorite TV show, but they do not care about politics and may only tune in to the last couple of weeks of news or even just decide how they are going to vote based on their prior affiliation.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
10. Or, the short version
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 03:59 PM
Oct 2022

We can't count on people voting how we expect, because too many Americans are too dang stupid.

And by stupid, I mean:

"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses."

--Carlo Cipolla, The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity.

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