So, let me get this straight.

[babylonsister]

A friend posted this on FB~

So, let me get this straight.
You can’t hand out water and snacks to people waiting in line to vote, but you can station yourself armed, in full tactical gear, and intimidate people trying to drop off a ballot?

[Srkdqltr]

1. Yes. Are we surprised?

[Meadowoak]

2. only people from a third world country have seen this shit before.

[akbacchus_BC]

54. Excuse me! Which third world country are you referring to? Name one for me.

We don't line up for hours to vote! As a matter of fact, I was hoping that people would congregate in droves to give out water, snacks, entertain and boost morale for the States where Black people are always screwed just to cast their vote. Lets see how the cops can arrest people helping each other just to effimg vote. Effing cops, SS. etc. knew there was an insurrection going to happen on the Capitol on January 6 last year, where were the National Guard. Before you make up crap, stay with current events. Thank you.

[Liberal In Texas]

3. You have it straight.

Repub fascist strongarm rule. If we don't vote them out it's going to get even worse.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

4. Yes.

In AZ, as long as they stay more than 75' away from the drop box and don't physically impede people dropping off their ballots, it's perfectly legal.

It's an asinine law, but it is the law and the cop's hands are tied legally, however, we Dems in AZ can do the same thing, we can stand there and watch and film them to make sure they obey the law, and there are cops there on the perimeter watching them also.

[Trueblue Texan]

9. The 75ft law applies to electioneering...

...not voter intimidation.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. And open carry is legal in AZ,

so they are legally allowed to have their firearms with them as long as they stay 75' away.

Legally speaking, they're doing nothing wrong, morally speaking, they're assholes who should be mocked, ridiculed, ignored and videoed, and there are cops watching them to make sure they stay within the laws of AZ.

[sdfernando]

22. And they feel so sure legally and morally that they wear

cover their faces with masks and black out their license plates????

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. That's how MAGAt cockroaches roll,

they're fucking cowards who can't leave their house without their firearms.

[calimary]

27. MAGAt COWARD cockroaches.

They threaten with in-yer-face “tough-guy” strutting around all armed up?

Well, maybe we need to round ‘em up and ship ‘em out to a war zone. So they can do their “tough-guy” thing where the real tough guys are.

These goons all look like paper tigers to me. Mongo NOT impressed.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. Reference to Blazing Saddles?

One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

I agree with everything you say, but these cowards would drop their rifles and crap their pants at the first round whistling past their heads and cry for their mama's.

[orangecrush]

31. If military service

Was a prerequisite for gun ownership, I wonder how many of them would still be carrying?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

32. I suspect very, very few,

unless they count various video games like Medal of Honor, which they know nothing about Honor, Call of Duty, again, which they know nothing about Duty, and the various other war game videos out there.

[orangecrush]

42. ...

[LiberalArkie]

34. Maybe that is a solution. Anyone can carry a firearm if they have their DD-214 with them.

[orangecrush]

43. Lip service

Is much easier.

[calimary]

36. Exactly!

[calimary]

46. Uh-huh!

“Mongo impressed” was one of my favorite lines from that movie! I’ve stolen and used it frequently. Alex Karras was freakin’ BRILLIANT! LOVED him in that!

[Moon_Dog]

52. Mongo a true existentist

"Mongo just pawn in game of life"

[calimary]

60. I loved that scene!

AND Mongo!

I loved that whole movie, gotta say. Still do.

[MayReasonRule]

20. We can stand there equally armored and strapped while watching and film them.

These Nat-C Fascists have three goals, intimidation, incarceration, and/or extermination of any and all that dare oppose their ongoing depravity.

Remember y'all, never bring a knife to a gun fight!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. Yes, we can, and legally,

there's nothing these MAGAt's can do about it, however, I myself would refrain from carrying, don't give them a stand your ground reason to engage you, I would just mock and ridicule them all the while filming them, they don't like the light being shined on them, they tend to scurry away like cockroaches.

Just my opinion, what others do is their business.

[MayReasonRule]

38. Right on y'all, I too refrain...

I'm an early voter, so I've actively avoided those scenarios. I also actively refrain from goading and/or intimidation in such situations, anytime that they've occurred. As you've said though, each to their own.

The majority of my combat victories within life have been achieved by realizing my options, and picking my battles. I never display a weapon unless I'm pulling the trigger. To date, I'm fortunate to say that I never have.

Caddo Parish was the last stronghold of *The Confederacy*. It still is, but it used to be too...

So, being fortunate enough to have escaped our Christo-Fascist rearing, I've got less than zero desire to get in a shooting match with the Y'all Qaeda Christo Fascists. I never display a weapon unless I'm pulling the trigger.

Caddo Parish is a cesspool of delusion, despair, drugs and violence.

I've never forgotten what's it's like to be a hard-core believer hymned in by shame.

It's incredibly difficult to break free of one's undying love of fellow hardcore believers, one's unshakeable faith in the fools and the dreamers, a holy devotion to sins of the ages. The reason it's incredibly difficult is because delusion only begets delusion. Faith rejects doubt, and in so doing rejects reason.

Until I embraced doubt, I was beat to hell by it, so to speak. Once I embraced doubt, I was saved by it, so to speak.

May reason rule!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

40. I hear ya,

as I like to say, I went to Vietnam a repub., I came home a Democrat and haven't looked back since.

Peace.

[Handler]

5. There is a lot more of this crap on the horizon

[kimbutgar]

6. Those who go to drop off ballots and stand in line to vote should have their phone cameras

Turned on ready to record if anyone messes with them, just record them if they try to intimidate you.

[NoMoreRepugs]

7. Welcome to the new America. The crazier the better apparently.

[magicarpet]

8. What,.... ? That is perfectly normal,...

... when Fascists are factored into the equation of decimating American Democracy.



Astute observation on your behalf,... how fucked up is that ? No water for you at a six to nine hour wait in a line to vote, even if you are dying of thirst.

But I get to bring my bullet proof vest and AR-15 to the polling place to intimidate everyone as I dissuade them from legally voting.

WTF ?

[Joinfortmill]

12. Yup It's a problem.

[malaise]

13. and then the same folks want to instruct the planet about

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Democracy and the right to vote - Wha ta fucking joke!

[Ohioboy]

14. Seems weird, but what you say is true

[AncientOfDays]

15. On one hand ...

... maybe could be a good thing - it will be hard for them to claim ballot fraud if they are watching and don't see anything.

My guess is that won't stop them though.

[Rebl2]

18. They will

just make stuff up.

[calimary]

37. Of course they'll just make shit up.

That’s what you have to do to bend “reality” to your will when actual reality refuses to cooperate.

[underpants]

16. The gates opened in 2017. The RNC got busted in 1982 and fought it for 25 years

The RNC and New Jersey Republican State Committee entered into a consent decree in 1982, barring them from engaging in further such conduct. The RNC unsuccessfully tried to lift the consent decree several times over the next 25 years; these attempts were rejected by the federal courts each time.

The consent decree restricting Republican Party conduct was set to expire on December 1, 2017, but Democrats sought an extension,[18][19] alleging that statements from Donald Trump campaign officials showed the RNC had engaged in activities in violation of the decree.[19] U.S. District Judge John Michael Vazquez allowed the Democratic Party to take the deposition of Sean Spicer before issuing a decision on whether the decree should be allowed to expire, but denied Democrats' motions for hearings on the issue.[19] On January 8, Judge John Vasquez ruled that the decree had expired on December 1, and would not be extended.[2]

The 2020 presidential election was the first presidential election since 1980 in which the Republican Party was able to deploy "ballot security operations". In 2019 Justin R. Clark, an official in Trump's re-election campaign, was recorded telling Republican lawyers that the expiration of the consent decree was a "huge, huge, huge, huge deal" for the campaign's election day operations in Wisconsin.[20] In March 2020 the RNC announced plans to mobilize 50,000 poll watchers to swing states, while Trump described plans to mobilise law enforcement as poll watchers, and the True the Vote group sought to recruit police officers and military veterans. The political scientist Kenneth Mayer of the University of Wisconsin–Madison argued in August 2020 that the lifting of the consent decree raised the prospect of a return to practices of voter intimidation, while Justin Levitt of Loyola Law School argued that the RNC was unlikely to have the capacity to mobilize such numbers.[21][22] In October 2020 the Trump campaign said it had enlisted more than 50,000 volunteer poll watchers in swing states.[23] In a September 2020 opinion column, Florio likened Trump's rhetoric to the use of voter intimidation in the 1981 campaign.[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_Security_Task_Force

[Rebl2]

17. Seems like it

[TigressDem]

19. I thought those guys got arrested. 'parently not.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/armed-group-can-monitor-arizona-ballot-drop-boxes-federal-judge-rules


Arizona law states electioneers and monitors must remain 75-foot (23-meter) from a voting location.

BUT THEY HAD GUNS. AR-15's being the R favorite has a range of 400-600 YARDS, split the difference 500 yards.

That is STILL 20 times MORE than 75 feet.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

21. Pretty much

RW wingers love the second amendment much more then voting !

[dlk]

25. The fascists are here

The only question is what we are going to do about it.

[dwayneb]

55. The fascists have BEEN here

We haven't done anything about it for decades, I'm not confident at all we are going to do anything about it now, other than posting words on a page in some discussion forum or social media.

I saw this coming 40 years ago, are people simply stupid?

Remember, about 40% to 50% of American don't even bother to vote. Is it any surprise that the American experiment is going to fail when half the population has relinquished their representation?

[Generic Brad]

26. Do the armed people in tactical gear get food and water?

Just want to know what is not allowed in America.

[Ohioboy]

29. We should prank these armed goons

Everyone going to a drop box should dress themselves in total MAGA merchandise from head to toe.

[Liberty Belle]

30. This needs a response like the one to Westboro Baptist Church's hateful protesters --

The ones that showed up at funerals of gay people with "God hates fags" signs or outside schools to intimidate teens.

Counter-protesters formed a line in front of them to shield funeral goers and students from being them, and would out chant them as well.

Have counter protesters show up carrying huge banners to just block them out.

[electric_blue68]

33. What's wrong with that picture? Horrible, menacing thugs!

[CCExile]

35. These guys need to be under CONSTANT private video and audio surveillance from

very obvious equipment the whole time they are watching. Not by government entities, but by normal citizens. Every aspect of their interactions, both with the public and with their cohorts. Their license plates and vehicle descriptions should be recorded. We should see where they go when they pack up. This should all be entered in databases. Let's see how they like THAT "freedom". I'd do it if I lived near there.

[czarjak]

39. Using the point of a gun to impart your will?

[dwayneb]

58. New to America, not new in history

America is finally waking up to the reality that our Constitution is archaic and weak and cannot protect us from a determined Fascist enemy, when so many people are in a state of ambivalence, still believing the fairy tale.

[Martin68]

41. That sums up the right wing" "You can't hand out water and snacks to people waiting in line to vote,

but you can station yourself armed, in full tactical gear, and intimidate people trying to drop off a ballot?" The Republican Party doesn't have a majority anymore. They HAVE TO depress the vote to win elections.

[NullTuples]

44. What if it's my sincerely held religious belief that I MUST hand out water?

(To Republicans this is like duct taping a piece of buttered toast to a cat's back and dropping it from a few feet; it will simply spin, hovering a few inches off the ground as the potentials perfectly balance)

[mwooldri]

45. Has anyone thought of setting up taco trucks near polling stations?

While it may be unlawful to hand out food and drinks in line I don't know if it is unlawful to purchase food and drink in line and have it delivered.

[Purrfessor]

47. Sorry I can't give you water and a snack...

but here’s a hand gun and grenade.

[Evolve Dammit]

48. Yes indeed. Sucks huh? We have totally gone to a dark chapter.

[Beartracks]

49. Because sharing food and water is blatant political speech, unlike brandishing weapons.

if needed.

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[Beartracks]

50. Making voting less of a chore is anti-democratic. Intimidating voters is super-patriotic.

Don'tcha know.

again, obviously

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[BlueJac]

51. Fucking outrageous!

[Aussie105]

53. So . . .

How do they know which way you vote when you drop yours off?

What are they actually watching for? What would trigger them?

[dwayneb]

56. THis is why the Fascists are working hard to get rid of mail in voting

They understand perfectly well that there are many ways to suppress the vote if people have to come in person to a polling booth, or to a drop-off. This is why they are spreading the lie that mail in voting is at risk for fraud.

[Emile]

57. Garland needs to do his damn job and arrest Trump or this lawlessness will continue!

[Mr.Bill]

59. Absolutely. n/t

[uponit7771]

61. +1, or error on the side of protecting the 15th amendment **MORE** than the 2nd cause the

... USSC historically with conservative judges wont do it.