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I detest Bill Maher (Original Post) malaise Nov 2022 OP
I didn't watch... lisa58 Nov 2022 #1
Me too. Had to turn the channel. BlueGreenLady Nov 2022 #2
Mme, too. He is obnoxious. n/t Peregrine Took Nov 2022 #13
The perfect word malaise Nov 2022 #40
What was he on? Rebl2 Nov 2022 #73
Seconded. mahina Nov 2022 #3
K&R spanone Nov 2022 #4
No one must be watching his show..gots to go out during the day..?? asiliveandbreathe Nov 2022 #5
He's a classical contrarian and mostly libertarian. The western slope of CO is full of them.. hlthe2b Nov 2022 #6
Now that would be great malaise Nov 2022 #30
not just that for me,,,,, I mean it's also this,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #7
I need a cite that he dated Ingraham Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #18
ok,,,, you made me look it up,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #56
I think it was Anne Coulter Stinky The Clown Nov 2022 #23
that was rumored but no proof,,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #62
eewwwww........ nt Hotler Nov 2022 #88
Sound reasons malaise Nov 2022 #27
He date Laura Ingraham? Jesus, what a pair they must have made. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #57
guess not,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #58
I agree, he is misogynistic, while.. Duppers Nov 2022 #95
You'n'me both. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2022 #8
We watch him every week he's on HBO. His new rules segments are usually spot on and hilarious. beaglelover Nov 2022 #9
My new rule years ago was to stop watching him malaise Nov 2022 #19
There ya go! Never could stand him. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #42
He trips my asshole alarm. I don't watch him either. CentralMass Nov 2022 #89
I'm stealing that trips my asshole alarm malaise Nov 2022 #91
I used to like New Rules malaise Nov 2022 #68
I agree! redwitch Nov 2022 #10
Douche. That's the word I was searching for. Perfect description japple Nov 2022 #38
You should check out today's "Coundown With Keith Olbermann" podcast. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #11
Will do malaise Nov 2022 #20
That was a fricking AMAZING story!! I believe every word of it, given all bullwinkle428 Nov 2022 #45
Neither does Ari Melber it seemed to me. panader0 Nov 2022 #59
I was just going to say this. salin Nov 2022 #72
His closing vignets are the best part of the podcast. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #101
Agree Meowmee Nov 2022 #12
He was on Ari - switched to tennis malaise Nov 2022 #16
That explains it Meowmee Nov 2022 #25
He was on two episodes, and was kind of a weasel in both. LisaM Nov 2022 #65
I saw two of them repeated Meowmee Nov 2022 #92
He lost me when he sucked up to the three Harpies in the 90s. no_hypocrisy Nov 2022 #14
☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Nov 2022 #15
That's why I never watch him. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2022 #17
Same here malaise Nov 2022 #21
He's crying about ageism now that he's discovered he's an old piece of shit. When Hillary Clinton AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2022 #22
Schtick is right malaise Nov 2022 #26
I heard him and it reinforced my decision to stop watching his show. BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #24
Had the same thought within two minutes malaise Nov 2022 #29
Was he ever a Dem? AFAIK he's been a Libertarian wnylib Nov 2022 #49
He likes to portray himself as a progressive liberal at times. BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #54
He likes inthewind21 Nov 2022 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Nov 2022 #109
He,'s not very likable, is he? nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2022 #28
EWWW! Bill Maher, on Ari Melber's show! Paladin Nov 2022 #31
I like Ari malaise Nov 2022 #35
No problem. (nt) Paladin Nov 2022 #46
Goofy deserves equal time with downright evil... lame54 Nov 2022 #104
There's a Family Guy episode where Brian becomes a pal with Rush Limbaugh right after Obama's win... Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #32
When I heard he was on Ari Melber PlanetBev Nov 2022 #33
Yes, that is libertarian bullshit. He also pushes anti-vax nonsense, and also is a misogynist JohnSJ Nov 2022 #34
His moments of brilliance are offset by his moments of misogynistic misery Blue Owl Nov 2022 #36
Yep malaise Nov 2022 #37
Right on. ancianita Nov 2022 #39
Gotta give ya a big AMEN on this one sister. Maru Kitteh Nov 2022 #41
I hate how he's on almost every channel and it's very difficult to avoid him. egduj Nov 2022 #43
i haven't watched him in years. barbtries Nov 2022 #44
Agreed, and didn't he date Ann Coulter....maybe I should have said he dates shit too. c-rational Nov 2022 #47
he uses labels 'politically incorrect' and 'woke' like republican media - to deflect criticism of certainot Nov 2022 #48
Libertarians: 13-year-olds who failed to mature. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #50
This☝️ I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2022 #106
Oh, he's okay Auggie Nov 2022 #51
If everyone hated Maher as much as people claim... brooklynite Nov 2022 #52
THAT guy inthewind21 Nov 2022 #110
Same budkin Nov 2022 #53
Totally agree. He is past his sell date. Time to wrap it up and retire. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #55
I like Real Time. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2022 #60
He's a misogynistic pile of crap. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #61
not sure how I feel about him, he seems a mix of bullshit and uncomfortable truths Amishman Nov 2022 #63
I have been to his shows kevink077 Nov 2022 #64
All the way with you! MuseRider Nov 2022 #66
In 2020 his privilege when it came to COVID finally pushed me away. BadgerMom Nov 2022 #67
Haven't watched for so long that I didn't know malaise Nov 2022 #70
I was able to ignore a lot over the years Xavier Breath Nov 2022 #71
I gave him chance after chance after chance BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #78
Saw him live once... The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2022 #69
You made me laugh malaise Nov 2022 #75
I quit watching him when he was in love with Ann Coulter SouthernDem4ever Nov 2022 #74
Libertarians are like housecats. HardPort Nov 2022 #76
whoa - never thought of it like that - makes sense. bluboid Nov 2022 #93
EXACTLY! inthewind21 Nov 2022 #111
He's always been shit, with a disturbing number of cheerleaders among Liberals Orrex Nov 2022 #77
Totally agree. I thought he was amusing 10 years ago, but realized he's pretty fucking clueless and Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #79
My hubby still wants to watch Duppers Nov 2022 #80
Sounds like one of my BiLs malaise Nov 2022 #82
I do too. flying_wahini Nov 2022 #81
I haven't watched him in two decades. Demobrat Nov 2022 #83
The smarm runs deep in this one. Ford_Prefect Nov 2022 #84
In 2016 NPR aired an interview with him. Might have been Fresh Air, I don't recall. NullTuples Nov 2022 #85
It's all a game to some of these people malaise Nov 2022 #86
I'm with you on this. Pepsidog Nov 2022 #87
Why I don't watch. LiberalFighter Nov 2022 #90
Unwatchable, for me. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2022 #94
I keep trying to give Bill Maher chances, but I'm just done anymore. Music Man Nov 2022 #96
I love his show! betsuni Nov 2022 #97
Maher is an enemy of democracy. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2022 #98
Watching him decay into an idiot has been disturbing Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #99
Very well said malaise Nov 2022 #102
Same.🤮 we can do it Nov 2022 #100
Agree! Faux pas Nov 2022 #103
Ari had him on his show I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2022 #105
I quit watching his show frogmarch Nov 2022 #107
I think he's brilliant Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #112
This made me laugh Sympthsical Nov 2022 #113
He ALWAYS makes me think. And he typically takes a slant Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #115
I really enjoyed the conversation they had last week Sympthsical Nov 2022 #116
Haven't seen BM episode yet, look forward to hearing Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #117
Gotta disagree gulliver Nov 2022 #114
This is correct. betsuni Nov 2022 #119
Why do you watch him? BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #118

mahina

(17,705 posts)
3. Seconded.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:45 PM
Nov 2022

Smug both-sides-talking self-congratulatory principle-free mofo. And he isn’t funny either, ever

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. No one must be watching his show..gots to go out during the day..??
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:47 PM
Nov 2022

Gin up an audiance ..I swear..I concur with your sentiment..

Can't stand his shit..I just had to close the patio door, hubby watching outside..

hlthe2b

(102,379 posts)
6. He's a classical contrarian and mostly libertarian. The western slope of CO is full of them..
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:47 PM
Nov 2022

Enough to elect Lauren Boebert. ( )


On that topic, though, Boebert just might not be around much longer. as I think some have awakened from their "I HATE GOVERNMENT" mantra. We shall see.

KarenS

(4,087 posts)
7. not just that for me,,,,, I mean it's also this,,,,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:48 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:28 PM - Edit history (1)

I think he is very misogynistic.

I haven't watched him in years now.

** on edit: delete this part,,, Plus he dated Laura Ingraham.** I cannot find anything that says he did. blame it on "old lady brain"

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
18. I need a cite that he dated Ingraham
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:05 PM
Nov 2022

Keith Olbermann dated her, by his own admission.

Never heard that Maher did the same.

KarenS

(4,087 posts)
56. ok,,,, you made me look it up,,,,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:23 PM
Nov 2022

and I cannot find it anywhere,,,,

He said he used to have Laura Ingraham & Ann Coulter on his show as 'foils' and I just read there was a rumor about Ann Coulter & him dating but the rumor died out because there was no evidence

sheesh,,,, I thought I knew he dated her,,,, but in my defense that was a long time ago and I'm an old lady now I quit watching him years ago.

beaglelover

(3,495 posts)
9. We watch him every week he's on HBO. His new rules segments are usually spot on and hilarious.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:49 PM
Nov 2022

Last week's show kind of sucked though. Guests were super boring.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
11. You should check out today's "Coundown With Keith Olbermann" podcast.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:51 PM
Nov 2022

It's very enlightening. Keith doesn't care much for him, either.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
45. That was a fricking AMAZING story!! I believe every word of it, given all
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:05 PM
Nov 2022

I've seen and heard about Maher.

salin

(48,955 posts)
72. I was just going to say this.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:57 PM
Nov 2022

Funny story.

I just started listening to his podcast last week, and am glad I did. The vignets that he closes with are often a light palate cleanser to the serving of news dealt with his trademark passion during the rest of the podcast.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
101. His closing vignets are the best part of the podcast.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 07:50 AM
Nov 2022

So enlightening, as they help explain a lot of what went on in the past, and what's happening in the media now. I love how he refers to CNN's head, Chris Licht, as "the paste eater." Keith's opening rants can sometimes be a little too overwrought for my liking, but I certainly appreciate his use of humor in the rest of the podcast.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
12. Agree
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:52 PM
Nov 2022

I have always detested him, I don’t really spend that much time thinking about him though lol but sometimes people post something about him here and I always comment on it. Well, prolly not always 😹 He used to be on murder she wrote playing bit parts he was a not so great actor in my opinion.

* Also, I have never watched his show except for 2 minutes once maybe… that was enough for me. 😖

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. That explains it
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:11 PM
Nov 2022

The last time I watched Ari he had some right wing nut job on so I changed the channel.

LisaM

(27,840 posts)
65. He was on two episodes, and was kind of a weasel in both.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:34 PM
Nov 2022

Angela Lansbury wasn't even in one of them! (Faith Ford was, though).

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
92. I saw two of them repeated
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:51 PM
Nov 2022

At some point. I can’t remember what they were about now. A murder obviously, lol.

no_hypocrisy

(46,207 posts)
14. He lost me when he sucked up to the three Harpies in the 90s.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:59 PM
Nov 2022

Ann Colter, Barbara Olson, and Laura Ingraham.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,251 posts)
22. He's crying about ageism now that he's discovered he's an old piece of shit. When Hillary Clinton
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:09 PM
Nov 2022

was running for President, Maher would constantly diss her as old & wearing pantsuits. He would fancy himself as stud, bragging about his visits to the Playboy mansion - he thought he was God's gift to women. I detest him and his whole schtick

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
24. I heard him and it reinforced my decision to stop watching his show.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:10 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Tue Nov 1, 2022, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Over the last 3 years, likely longer, he has been Mr. Bothsides. My sanity thanks me. He wants to interview Hillary, what a joke!

Maher is a Libertarian in Dems clothing.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
108. He likes
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 04:46 PM
Nov 2022

to portray himself as the all knowing. He's a shit stain of the highest order. He's a "That Guy" " You know "that guy", we've all encountered at least one. He's the one who hangs out in the bar or the party or insert occasion here with his shirt unbuttoned to his navel and has ALL the RIGHT answers to everything.

Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #54)

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
31. EWWW! Bill Maher, on Ari Melber's show!
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:27 PM
Nov 2022

Two of my least favorite media figures---together! Like a train wreck you can't look away from. My favorite part: the Fox "News" commentators, masturbating on-air over Maher for his trashing of liberals, so much more than he used to---and Maher admitting it was true, because liberals are so much "goofier" than they used to be. And people wonder why I walked away from Maher's show, years ago.

Fuck both of those losers. Time for a stiff drink.

malaise

(269,188 posts)
35. I like Ari
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:37 PM
Nov 2022

He’s a progressive who walks the walk, particularly on matters civil rights in the legal sphere.
He has never pussyfooted around the failed coup.
I don’t always like his guests and he does appear rather fond of himself.
That said there is more to like than dislike.

lame54

(35,326 posts)
104. Goofy deserves equal time with downright evil...
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:35 PM
Nov 2022

They're exactly the same
They pose the same threats and we need equal time to be warned of both of them

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
32. There's a Family Guy episode where Brian becomes a pal with Rush Limbaugh right after Obama's win...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:34 PM
Nov 2022

...he starts going against liberalism and hating on the current politics and at the end of the day, Rush Limbaugh tell him at the end of the episode that Brian basically has to go against the political grain and he really just wants to hate the status quo.

I think that's Maher. Maher is at his happiest railing against the current status quo. He's a contrarian. That's all.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
33. When I heard he was on Ari Melber
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:34 PM
Nov 2022

I deliberately didn’t watch. I use to like him, but got tired of his snarky libertarian bullshit.

JohnSJ

(92,422 posts)
34. Yes, that is libertarian bullshit. He also pushes anti-vax nonsense, and also is a misogynist
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:36 PM
Nov 2022

jackass

Blue Owl

(50,514 posts)
36. His moments of brilliance are offset by his moments of misogynistic misery
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:40 PM
Nov 2022

Stopped following him several years ago...

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
39. Right on.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:48 PM
Nov 2022

He says the moment is serious, yet he fails to be serious enough about it to slam the linguistically and physically violent side.

I don't care how much he's given Dems, he's a both sider.

egduj

(806 posts)
43. I hate how he's on almost every channel and it's very difficult to avoid him.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:59 PM
Nov 2022

Someone like him should be relegated to a premium channel, aired only one night a week, and you would have to voluntary pay money in order to watch that channel that one night a week.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
44. i haven't watched him in years.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:02 PM
Nov 2022

i think it might have the time Ann Coulter was a guest that turned me off.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
48. he uses labels 'politically incorrect' and 'woke' like republican media - to deflect criticism of
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:10 PM
Nov 2022

racism, misogyny, and intellectual laziness

the sex on the brainers love simplicity and binary absolutes that allow easy judgement to feed their irrational closure and certainty and he's just more complicated and convoluted in getting there than most republican and 'independent' ayn randian assholes.

it can get worse with age

SunSeeker

(51,728 posts)
50. Libertarians: 13-year-olds who failed to mature.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:11 PM
Nov 2022

Maher is good at dissing everything, but at some point, you have to be FOR something.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
106. This☝️
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:41 PM
Nov 2022

They think atlas shrugged is somehow profound ..lol. Ayn Rand is a disgusting person and bad writer.

Auggie

(31,194 posts)
51. Oh, he's okay
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:14 PM
Nov 2022

I'll have to catch the Ari interview to catch-up with the thread conversation. I do like the HBO show.

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
52. If everyone hated Maher as much as people claim...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:14 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2022, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

We’d ever hear about him because nobody here would be watching them.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
60. I like Real Time.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:26 PM
Nov 2022

I don’t agree with him all the time but I find his show entertaining. New Rules is always good. He’s more of a mainstream media commentator than a real deep dive political wonk. That’s his weakness to me. His takes on important issues are surface shallow sometimes. I feel like he should know more than he does about specific things. But for all the serious talk that goes on, Real Time still a comedy and entertainment show at the end of the day. And he rarely fails to deliver on those fronts. I don’t need my own views parroted at me to enjoy a show.

kevink077

(365 posts)
64. I have been to his shows
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:31 PM
Nov 2022

Mostly political grievances, some funny, some cringeworthy. Mostly liberal but has a lot of tin foil hat conspiracy theory beliefs. Thinks covid was pretty much make believe and mocks science. Being anti trump is his only saving grace.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
67. In 2020 his privilege when it came to COVID finally pushed me away.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:38 PM
Nov 2022

I’d watched uneasily for several years. But he really felt the inconvenience of quarantine was too much. The experts couldn’t possibly know as much as he. And his attitude about having to get a building permit was such nonsense. I stopped watching his show and turn the channel if he appears anywhere else. He’s toxic.

Xavier Breath

(3,655 posts)
71. I was able to ignore a lot over the years
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:56 PM
Nov 2022

because I thought the good outweighed the bad. But this was the final straw for me. His dismissal of science and victim-shaming was too much. I walked away and haven't looked back.

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
78. I gave him chance after chance after chance
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

but his anti-vaxx BS kept coming back. He can't let it go. Finally I said FUCK IT, ENOUGH! The few clever jokes weren't worth the torture of hearing the rest of the show. His poor guests, if you do not agree with him he treats you like a dick.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
74. I quit watching him when he was in love with Ann Coulter
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:59 PM
Nov 2022

I don't know if he was really in love but he was just giddy to have her on his show all the time. Made me sick.

HardPort

(1,474 posts)
76. Libertarians are like housecats.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:03 PM
Nov 2022

Convinced of their fierce independence, but utterly dependent on a system they don’t understand or appreciate.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
77. He's always been shit, with a disturbing number of cheerleaders among Liberals
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

He enjoys that enviable position of never having to worry about being wrong:

If he recites something brilliant (prepared by his team of writers), they say "He's so insightful and not afraid to tell it like it is."

But when, 80% of the time, he says something shitty, they say "What do you expect? He's a comedian, not a political pundit."

Well he can go fuck himself. He's been wildly transphobic, not to mention Islamophobic and frequently misogynist throughout his interminable career.


On balance he's garbage

Evolve Dammit

(16,778 posts)
79. Totally agree. I thought he was amusing 10 years ago, but realized he's pretty fucking clueless and
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

arrogantly obnoxious.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
80. My hubby still wants to watch
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:08 PM
Nov 2022

Saying "nothing better is on."
I yell "shit" and leave the rm. Hubs is a Dem but has a higher tolerance for shit. I'm generally more picky about "entertainment" in general.

Maher just crosses line after line with me and thinks he's far smarter, more informed than he is.


Demobrat

(8,995 posts)
83. I haven't watched him in two decades.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:12 PM
Nov 2022

That smug, smarmy mug just totally creeps me out. It’s not even about whose side he’s on - it’s him. He made my skin crawl with some creepy misogynist rant and I never watched him again.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
85. In 2016 NPR aired an interview with him. Might have been Fresh Air, I don't recall.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

He stated he has no political or social convictions; he simply doesn't care. He sees himself as a sort of actor playing a roll and that roll depends on who is willing to pay him to say things.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
96. I keep trying to give Bill Maher chances, but I'm just done anymore.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:59 PM
Nov 2022

I appreciate the breadth of Bill's comedic career, but I have grown so tired of him becoming a one-note singer regarding woke politics. EVERYTHING is about that now for him. Every week's "New Rules" segment is bashing wokeness. Are there always going to be self-indulgent, over-the-top activists? Of course, but Bill overestimates how rabid and judgmental liberal voters are, instead of seeing the array of diverse viewpoints that have ALWAYS defined the left.

He thinks Democrats' struggles in recent elections is because of race and LGBT activists, but how about the decades worth of misinformation from Fox News, talk radio, and the internet? And relentless Newt Gingrich-inspired politics.

What also finally did it for me is watching John Oliver recently, who makes it clear that you can have biting humor that is, in fact, directed at the right targets. Bill Maher just doesn't want to change. He's really a libertarian, after all, not a progressive, so I guess none of this should be suprising.

Johnny2X2X

(19,118 posts)
99. Watching him decay into an idiot has been disturbing
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 07:46 AM
Nov 2022

I have no problem with Maher engaging people from the Right, I think it's good to see people challenge each other.

But his views and both siderism have gotten more and more skewed and out of touch. He's further to the Right every time I watch him. Everything is the Dems fault, everything is the fault of woke. It's maddening. He's become a rich snob who has no idea what's going on in the real world.

frogmarch

(12,160 posts)
107. I quit watching his show
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:45 PM
Nov 2022

years ago, when he kept having his good friend, that POS Anne Coulter on. Whenever other guests complained about her, Maher would defend her, saying things like, "Oh, c'mon, she was kidding" or "She's a comedian, people."

After tolerating a few shows with her as a guest, I quit Maher cold turkey.

Sympthsical

(9,121 posts)
113. This made me laugh
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 05:48 PM
Nov 2022

I don't know why. You have this whole thread, then way at the bottom is your response.

He's interesting. Sometimes a little too cranky/cantankerous. A little get off my lawn. But he's critical from inside the house mostly. And I'd rather have a friend call me stupid so I can course correct than an enemy land a hit on me for same thing later.

Some people really just don't want to hear any criticism, no matter how warranted.

It's funny, too, because he has been so overtly pro-Biden for months in ways you do not see in some of the most friendly commentators. I think most people who hate him haven't actually watched him in years. Just a game of telephone about how awful he is with group reinforcement.

The guy who thinks we need big government solutions to problems is a huge libertarian, ya know.

Hey, everyone needs a target. Now, to watch that personification of objectivity . . . *checks* Keith Olbermann.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
115. He ALWAYS makes me think. And he typically takes a slant
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:04 PM
Nov 2022

that no one else does. Hate the prevalent cancel culture we find ourselves in now .

Sympthsical

(9,121 posts)
116. I really enjoyed the conversation they had last week
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:17 PM
Nov 2022

I always like those shows a bit better, too. When the guests aren't as well known or cable news fixtures, so they just talk instead of trying to get the camera on themselves.

But technology rewiring our brains is a huge bugaboo of mine I hammer constantly. People are just seeing, hearing, and reading what reinforces their preferences. Forget how it aggravates partisanship, it just creates massive blind spots and ignorance that they're not even aware of. One of my most common responses online is, "Have you met . . . people?" Because what I'm reading is just so far out of touch with how people in real life actually are.

But Gillian Tett, the British guest, nailed it when she said, "It's not Millennial or Gen Z, it's Gen P - Generation Playlist." I love that, Gen P. It's so painfully true, and so much a problem in our politics and our culture. And it crosses generations and ages. It's an attitude, no a cohort.

We're seeing that right now in real time (pardon the pun). "I like this poll because it makes me happy. I hate this poll and don't believe it because it makes me sad." That's what having life treated like a playlist does to people.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
117. Haven't seen BM episode yet, look forward to hearing
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:49 PM
Nov 2022

GT! And generation playlist!

Agree about people only seeing or only wanting to see what reenforces their preferences. What worries me more is the denigration of anyone outside that bubble. You can't be 50% with me; you must be 100% with me. You think it's caused by technology? How so?

There needs to be more grey.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
114. Gotta disagree
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 05:56 PM
Nov 2022

He's usually spot on, although when he starts to talk about vaccines, he usually says something cringe or dubious. His basic idea is that Dems shouldn't say or do things that would make a good Onion headline. I would argue that mainstream Dems don't do that. For example, "decriminalizing crime," is not even close to a mainstream Dem opinion, but all Dems unfairly pay out the nose for the folly of a tiny few.

It's really hard to argue with most of the things he says. I would say that the vast majority of the things he says that annoy some people on the left would be found to be both logically supportable in a fair reading and, perhaps more importantly, democratically supported by a large majority of Dems across all backgrounds.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
118. Why do you watch him?
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:51 PM
Nov 2022

I’ve seen so many posts from you about people on tv you can’t stand.

Why in the world do you watch?

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