Should I start eulogizing America now?

[EnergizedLib]

All of the numbers I’m seeing on Twitter suggest our side is losing badly in turnout numbers.

Will I even recognize this country when the sun shines tomorrow?

[Wednesdays]

1. Yeah, trust everything you read on Twitter.

[democratsruletheday]

5. exactly...twitter is a cess pool of RWNJ's and

other low lifes. I've never gone on there and never will now that Elmo owns it. My god OP....get off the ledge

[NullTuples]

40. IMO, Twitter has become far worse in the last week. It's flooded with misinformation

And those spreading it are leaping into threads they didn't seem to leap into before.

[NullTuples]

43. And from what I've heard, network news (looking at you MSNBC) is no better.

[2naSalit]

53. Also run with sissors.

[BannonsLiver]

2. It's going to be a long night here, isn't it?

😬😬😬

[NullTuples]

44. In some states like Caliifornia it could be days or a week. Something about election integrity...

[BannonsLiver]

47. Yes

But I was speaking more about the tone of the forum on election night, which I think will be set in stone one, way or another, by about 11 pm eastern, if not well before.

[NullTuples]

55. Thanks for explaining!

[GenXer47]

3. if you change the Star Spangled Banner

to minor, it sounds very Russian. Especially with an all-male choir.
It also sounds like a dirge.

[Kittycatkat]

4. Remember who owns twitter. They may be setting us up -

when we win, they can say it was stolen...

[Sympthsical]

6. I suggest waiting

I can't count how many times things reported, officially and anecdotally, during Election Day about turn outs and lines and vibes turned out to be completely wrong by the time the dust had settled.

In 2016, victory was assured by like 6AM, I swear. We know how that went. Republicans are practically claiming victory already while Democrats are pounding anecdotal turn out numbers. Sources are going to press the narratives that make their respective sides feel better.

Just wait. We'll see. I'd turn media off if anxiety is a problem.

Fortunately, I'm about to leave the house until 6pm PST, so I won't be sitting here refreshing web pages. (I really should just turn the internet off until tomorrow, but sometimes I'm not so smart).

[HiltonHeadDem]

7. So many apathy on the D side

I can't wait til these Republicans need abortion services or what healthcare and find out their government sold them out.

[EnergizedLib]

13. Not just that

What other rights are people soon going to lose?

[underpants]

8. I've got a bad feeling about this.

The Saudis and our media did a real number on us.

[MerryHolidays]

9. Aren't you forgetting about early voting turnout? nt

[EnergizedLib]

14. Is that turnout for us?

I hope so.

[Wednesdays]

34. 600,000 vote lead for Democrats in Pennsylvania for example.

https://rpubs.com/ElectProject/PA_early_vote_2022

[panader0]

10. Why not? Many DUers have been doing it for years. The sky is falling crowd.

The end of Democracy, the end of Freedom and on and on.
Do you really think that America is dead? Because Democrats may, or may not, lose a few seats?
Please....

[EnergizedLib]

16. Well

Above all else, I want to keep the Senate. That’s most important.

[panader0]

23. No races have been called yet. Keep the faith, and have a heart like a Ukrainian.

[Justice matters.]

26. Remember President Biden has the Veto power and the fascists can't overturn it. eom

[NoRethugFriends]

38. I think ypou're not paying attention to the fact

that the rule of law is already gone in so many places in this country, and that will surely accelerate.

[Sympthsical]

51. Hey, I was told I'd be put in FEMA camps if Kerry lost

I don't know which side was trying to scare me most. There was Bush with his Christian Right FMA bullshit, then friends on my side telling me the ovens awaited.

That was a really weird year to be LGBT.

[Meadowoak]

11. Nope, maybe pick up a nice bottle of champagne for tomorrow's celebration.

[EnergizedLib]

12. What if I don't drink?

I appreciate the optimism.

[Meadowoak]

17. We're gonna be fine.

[Polybius]

24. Then start

[BumRushDaShow]

29. ...

[beaglelover]

15. Yeah I always get my news from Twitter. It's awesomely reliable!

[BlackSkimmer]

74. This.

Thank you.

[awesomerwb1]

18. You sound very "energized"

While I share your concern, these posts don't help. Polls have hours to go before closing, so why post this now?

[EnergizedLib]

19. I'm worried

I volunteered for a local judge candidate this year. I made calls, wrote letters and voted straight blue early.

[Farmer-Rick]

20. You are missing a lot of information

"In the nearly half of states for which we do have partisan data, Democrats are generally accounting for a higher percentage of early votes than in 2018. Back then, Democrats accounted for 41 percent of early votes, compared to 35.1 percent for Republicans — a gap of nearly six points, according to the U.S. Elections Project. This year, the gap is nearly nine points: 42.8-34.0."

"In Nevada, longtime political analyst Jon Ralston had been warning Democrats about their underperformance in early voting, but he now suggests that Democrats appear to be in better shape, while noting it looks close for the key Senate and governor’s races."

From WAPO this morning.

It's better than you think.

Twitter is back to being a right wing cesspool.

[EnergizedLib]

21. Thank you

I need something to feel better.

[Polybius]

22. Tweet by Dave Wasserman an hour ago:

Link to tweet

[Farmer-Rick]

27. According to WAPO overall Dems are turning out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/07/2022-early-vote-data-democrats/


Overall, early-voting and mail voting turnout is up and will further surpass the 39.1 million cast in 2018, because many states allowed in-person early voting through the weekend and mail ballots can still arrive. (Some states require mail ballots to arrive by Election Day; others merely require them to be postmarked by then.) High turnout generally benefits Democrats, given their base is more difficult to turn out, and 2018 was a good year for them.

[Polybius]

33. That is true, we had a big lead in early voting

It is also true that Republican turnout today is massive. How will it balance out? I guess we'll find out tonight (or tomorrow or even next week).

[LymphocyteLover]

35. Dems voted heavily early on, not at all surprising if GOP voting is higher today

[sarisataka]

25. If that's where you want to put your energy

I have a habit, I do not proclaim victory before the 1st vote nor concede defeat before the last

Just vote

[NoRethugFriends]

30. I have a habit too.

It's called realism. Rule of law is already gone in so many places, with many more to follow.
I feel bad for the young people who voted and will have to live with this for so so many years.
For those who were too lazy or dumb to vote, screw them. And that also goes for the women too lazy to vote or those whose voted for the Rethugs.

[sarisataka]

37. Since it's hopeless

Did you engage in the futile act of voting? If so, why?

[NoRethugFriends]

59. Of course I did. I don't need to explain why to you.

[sarisataka]

60. No you don't

But you should be able to see if you have the opinion that what we do will have no bearing on the future it is a waste of your time to vote.

Also telling people that their votes will not matter is a good way to suppress votes. I'll just leave that as food for thought

[NoRethugFriends]

64. Those who read this board overwhelmingly voted or will vote

Anything anyone posts either way on this matter will not matter one whit.

[Scrivener7]

39. Ah, of course. You're blaming it on women. Why am I not surprised?

[NoRethugFriends]

61. Learn how to read.

I am blaming it on those who didn't vote, (young people or women), and in women who voted Rethuglican.
And it goes without saying that men who vote for Rethugs are dumb.
And incidentally, I have been an escort at women's centers for over 30 years, putting my life and body on the line, so don't even try to pull that crap.

[Scrivener7]

79. Learn how to write.

And that also goes for the women too lazy to vote

Because, what? There are no MEN too lazy to vote? Spare me.

And if you don't want people to "pull that crap" don't say ignorant things like

And that also goes for the women too lazy to vote

[sarisataka]

86. How do you feel today?

While I am not planning on attending any victory parade, yesterday was definitely a loss for Republicans.

[NoRethugFriends]

87. Thrilled, and delighted to have been wrong!

[sarisataka]

90. It wasn't the blue wave some hoped/ expected

But the red wave was barely a ripple. I'll take it for now, rest a couple days then on to re-elect Biden

[Deuxcents]

28. I usually pass over this negative stuff..

Please..please stop w/ the gloom n doom poll stuff. Find something positive to do instead of fretting about what’s not even happened. Don’t sound very energetic to me w/ all this stuff. We won’t even know for a couple of days the total election results. Stay positive

[EnergizedLib]

31. I want to be positive

If I’m wrong about the numbers and worrying, nobody will be happier.

[obamanut2012]

63. You need to blame women again like you did up thread

So concerned about women, aren't you?

[NoRethugFriends]

32. Get real. Fantasyland is in Disneyworld.

Do you folks really believe denying it will make it all better?

[panader0]

68. Here is an American fighting, and dying, for Democracy in another country:

You can emulate this guy, maybe.....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217332854
If you really want things to be different, you have to fight for that.

[albacore]

36. Maybe not a eulogy.... but it certainly is a sad day when

Herschel Walker is in a dead heat with Rev. Warnock. And that's only one example.

Win or lose, contests like tell us that about half of the electorate is what psychologists call "fucked in the head".

May be too soon for eulogies, but some quiet weeping is in order even if the Dems win.

[EnergizedLib]

41. We've known since 2016

Just how far gone people in this country are.

I’m ready to get off this crazy train, to wake up from this nightmare since 2015.

[IzzaNuDay]

48. Take some more sleeping pills

I think this nightmare will last another 6 years…

[TheProle]

42. Who is this?

and what have you done with EnergizedLib?

[EnergizedLib]

45. I'm right here

I was pretty energized and motivated when I joined DU after Dobbs, felt motivated all summer, got bogged down with my job and now I’m worried by the turn of events of the last month.

[TheProle]

84. It was intended as a bit of levity

at a very serious time. I get it and hope you get re-energized with the results tonight. I remain hopeful.

[Amishman]

46. I'm not exactly optimistic, but all is far from lost

Other than FL, we had pretty good indicators in early voting. Election day indicators aren't great so far. Add them together, and you get a tight election.

The polls have been slightly against us, but there also is reason to believe they might be stacked against us. Another indicator of a tight election.

I don't expect a big wave either direction. House is probably narrowly lost, but geography works against us there. Senate could go either way.

[EnergizedLib]

49. I won't be thrilled to lose the House

I would, however, be devastated to lose the Senate.

[liberal_mama]

50. I voted. I'm not a Kathy Hochul fan with her lack of Covid precautions, but Zeldin would be far

worse. I really don't have a good feeling about this election night, but I've noticed a lot of other people on DU do so hopefully they are right.

Since my father died of Covid 3 weeks ago, I've been really down and depressed so maybe that's why I have such a bad feeling about tonight.

[Dr. Jack]

52. I don't think America is dead with a Republican win today

But if anyone thinks the Dems are going to do well are kidding themselves. If you think the Dems will keep the Senate, I would call that desperation, and if you think they will win the House, that is delusional. Bernie was right to say that the focus on mostly Roe and not on economics was a massive mistake.

[Elessar Zappa]

57. Most experts give us a 50/50 chance of keeping the Senate

and a 25% chance of keeping the House. So, no, it’s not desperation or delusion to suggest that we could keep one or the other.

[Dr. Jack]

66. And Hillary was at a 65% chance of winning I'm 2016

Polls keep underestimating Republicans and based on the anemic turnout for the Dems today, why would we expect such a rosey outcome this year? Polls almost never underestimate the Democrats on a large scale. We tend to do worse than predicted these days, sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot. The Dems being behind in the polls is a nearly guarantee loss. I'm telling you guys, it's going to be a lot worse than anyone here is expecting. The Republicans will gain probably close to 40 House seats and a net gain of 3 or 4 Senate seats. Call me a troll, a pessimist, or a liar all you want. I've seen enough elections to know when the Democrats are deluding themselves and this is definitely one of those years.

[Elessar Zappa]

67. I don't expect a rosy outcome.

But us keeping the Senate is definitely possible. Almost every polling average has it as a toss up. Yes they could keep the Senate but it’s by no means certain.

[Dr. Jack]

70. Definitely not impossible to keep the Senate

But I would put the odds far below the 50/50 odds. I would guess maybe 30% chance at best. I'm not a downer in every election but this one I am and I see people making the same mistakes I have made in previous elections. In 2010 the Dems did well in special elections but got crushed in November. In 2014 I bought into "the polls are all wrong!" but of course they werent. In 2016 we heard about huge early voting turnout among Dems and we see how well that worked out. People are spreading false hope about the Dems having a huge, secret poll of new voters or that early voting proves the Dems are actually going to win this year. I've played that game so many times in the past and it's a fast track to shock and heartache.

[Elessar Zappa]

73. I won't be shocked no matter what happens.

I’m prepared for any and all outcomes. If we lose this one, then it’s on to 2024 and hoping the voters punish Republicans for the inevitable obstruction that will doubtless happen if they’re in charge of Congress.

[Dr. Jack]

77. I think we are in for same shit different day after this election

Assuming the Republicans do win, I don't buy that suddenly we will be a fascist dictatorship and that the GOP will steal elections with impunity and no one can stop them. I think that's just hysteria. There will be tons of stupid investigations and obstruction, retaliatory impeachments, and blocking of judges and attempts by Republicans to challenge elections. America will keep limping along but it's going to be decades to clean up the MAGA mess that we already have and that's coming.

[Kaleva]

76. In MI, Hillary's lead had fallen to within the margin of error

Detroit News and the Detroit Free Press were both reporting that TFG was closing the gap with Hillary close to the election. TFG went on to barely win the state.

The polls showed that Hilary had the lead but when one factored in the margin of error, the state was a toss up.

[kwolf68]

65. Sanders is usually right

This time I hope he's wrong.

[gldstwmn]

54. I keep seeing messages that our side isn't turning out.

I call bullshit.
I'll be looking for signs of life in the democracy later this evening. We will see.
We all knew Twitter was going to be a shit show today.

[Peacetrain]

56. Oh for the love of God...

[FrankBooth]

58. Eulogizing America is a cottage industry on this site

And has been for a long, long time.

[DFW]

62. Remember who just bought Twitter

And then remember he loves Trump.

And then calm down, and quote Yogi Berra.

[mcar]

69. Guess it depends on what Twitter you're viewing

But do go ahead with your doom and gloom.

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=z56vr9RYMUxxqBSTFuWvkQ

NEW: footage from the scene at University of Michigan right now and it’s stunning. This is the line of students waiting to register and vote. Over 200 young people. 2+ hour-long wait. No poll could’ve predicted this energy. Ignore the polls and VOTE!

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=z56vr9RYMUxxqBSTFuWvkQ

NEW: In Wisconsin the youth vote is at 360% compared to 2018, the Black vote is at 123% compared to 2018, and the woman vote is at 137% compared to 2018.

Something is happening in Wisconsin.

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=z56vr9RYMUxxqBSTFuWvkQ

Election Day morning!

Latest early vote data fr TargetEarly:
- Turnout is 42m, up 8% over 18
- Ds up 50-39 (+11), 4.7m natl vote lead
- In 18 at this point 47-45 (+2), in 20 48-41 (+7)
- D state "firewalls" grew across US this weekend
- Electorate keeps getting younger 1/

[Baggies]

71. Sure, go ahead.

Don’t cost nuthin’.

[Sky Jewels]

72. Why post this now? Seriously?

What's the point?

[In It to Win It]

75. Hoping to keep the Senate. We have a lot judicial vacancies to fill

[bigtree]

78. this is a baldface falsehood

...a prime example of disinformation.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC 4h
Given how strong the early vote has been for Dems, I think we will know a lot about this election in a few hours. If Rs are not at the upper end of their turnout models everywhere they are in trouble.

They are starting out 5m votes behind, and way down in most battlegrounds.

Victor Shi @Victorshi2020 Nov 7
Let's look at what we're seeing w/ one day left. In the following battleground states, turnout among young Democrats is far higher than this time in 2018:

⬆️ Georgia (+23,707)
⬆️ Ohio (+4,653)
⬆️ Michigan (+31,445)
⬆️ Pennsylvania (+55,471)

Young Democrats ARE turning out.

Victor Shi @Victorshi2020 Nov 7
But young Republicans in the following battleground states are turning out at far lower rates than 18:

⬇️ Arizona (-15,032)
⬇️ Florida (-19,055)
⬇️ Georgia (-24,560)
⬇️ Ohio (-10,118)
⬇️ Texas (-101,003)

Bottom line: young Democrats are showing up. Young Republicans aren't.

Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC 7h
Since Dobbs it's been Ds checking what @tbonier calls the intensity boxes:

- strong vote in 5 House specials/Kansas
- spiked voter reg
- superior candidates fundraising
- huge early vote

But today all of a sudden Rs outhustle the Ds?

We'll see. 2/

Record-high early voting numbers among Black voters in Georgia
Black voters account for nearly 36% of early voters so far, despite only making up less than 30% of active voters in the state.
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2022/10/19/record-high-early-voting-numbers-among-black-voters/

[Celerity]

80. Thank you so much for this. I have been dismayed for weeks at the youth bashing here,

which is, unfortunately, typical bog standard bollocks for DU.

[Bonx]

81. I'mm 100% confident we will retain control of the House and Senate

[EnergizedLib]

82. Let me point out to everyone

I do not want my original post to be right. I’d be relieved and happy as all get out. I did my part, I’m sure you all did your part.

We simply did our part, and it’s hard to see the good in people in this country who have decided gas prices are more important than rights.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

85. So what do you have to say now?

[EnergizedLib]

88. As I said in another thread

I was wrong and happy to be wrong.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

89. I saw that and gave a +100 for admitting you were wrong.

[redwitch]

83. Nope.