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Biden is at 45/54 in exits, not great. TFG at 37/60 - OOFF (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 OP
That's actually not bad. Claustrum Nov 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays Nov 2022 #2
Actually, That's Good DarthDem Nov 2022 #3
It's okay news for 22, great news for 24. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #6
Except there was another question about Biden running again that was badly upside down AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #14
Eh. In 1982, only 36% of Americans said Reagan should run for reelection. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #35
Obama looked like a loser at this stage in his first term- viva la Nov 2022 #38
The ones that stood out to me were... AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #4
These are the big tells Mike_in_LA Nov 2022 #9
I saw AZ number that abortion is 6x/3x, Biden won 6x/3x. Claustrum Nov 2022 #12
You presume those are all democrats Jskudris55 Nov 2022 #37
The Repubs think democracy is threatened.... viva la Nov 2022 #39
These guys snowybirdie Nov 2022 #5
TFG is announcing next week DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #8
Yeah, but.... Mike_in_LA Nov 2022 #7
Joe's number is very good for Presidents in the middle of their term. nt MerryHolidays Nov 2022 #10
They're identical to Obama's numbers in 2010. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #31
45 is good uponit7771 Nov 2022 #11
Would you like to see Joe Biden run for president again in 2024? No 66% Yes 30% krawhitham Nov 2022 #13
I'm not sure what that means for tonight AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #16
I know a lot of dems that don't want him to run again AkFemDem Nov 2022 #25
Not horrible given he's an incumbent presiding over horrendous inflation Azathoth Nov 2022 #15
There is reason to think exit polls should be pessimistic about Biden VMA131Marine Nov 2022 #18
I thought exits accounted for early voting... nt AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #20
How? VMA131Marine Nov 2022 #21
They most definitely include early voters or exits would be profoundly skewed. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #24
They do but these are preliminary numbers. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2022 #22
Inflation was way worse under Reagan maryellen99 Nov 2022 #19
Not really Azathoth Nov 2022 #23
Not fully true. In 1982, inflation was still 6.16%. So, it was definitely high and it hurt Reagan. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #29
I got my first mortgage in 84.... 11 7/8ths % viva la Nov 2022 #40
Yup. My aunt bought a house in the 80s and it was something like 14%. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #41
In general... the exit polls are bad for Dems... WarGamer Nov 2022 #17
If the age makeup of the electorate matches the exit polls them we are fucked. Ace Rothstein Nov 2022 #33
I'm seeing a slow buildup of lines at college campuses AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #36
Absolutely wrong. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #34
absolutely State exit polls... GA and PA WarGamer Nov 2022 #42
Then specify that, because your original post was wrong. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #43
ok bud... WarGamer Nov 2022 #44
Actually that's good. Murphyb849 Nov 2022 #26
Biden's approval is identical to Obama's in the 2010 midterm exit polls - FWIW... Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #27
That's not bad mcar Nov 2022 #28
A lot of things can change in the next year. Biden can beat Trump. skylucy Nov 2022 #30
45% is actually pretty good, all things considered. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #32

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,097 posts)
14. Except there was another question about Biden running again that was badly upside down
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:11 PM
Nov 2022

66/30 NOT to run again.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
35. Eh. In 1982, only 36% of Americans said Reagan should run for reelection.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:13 PM
Nov 2022

It's not uncommon for presidents to be underwater here this far out. Only 44% of Americans wanted Bill Clinton to run for reelection in 1994. Oddly, both Carter and Bush, two incumbents who lost, had a majority who said they should run. I don't ever read into that poll.

viva la

(3,324 posts)
38. Obama looked like a loser at this stage in his first term-
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:21 PM
Nov 2022

Won a hearty majority two years later.

The incumbent is always unpopular halfway through (and your point about Carter and Bush suggests that popularity at that point isn't a good thing).

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,097 posts)
4. The ones that stood out to me were...
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:05 PM
Nov 2022

70/27 Democracy is threatened
and 63/34 Biden legit won the election.

Those seem pretty positive.

Mike_in_LA

(187 posts)
9. These are the big tells
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:07 PM
Nov 2022

Bigger than the rest.

Inflation is higher than abortion, BUT abortion was higher for much longer and for the duration of the early voter period. I think we win the timing effect on that one.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
12. I saw AZ number that abortion is 6x/3x, Biden won 6x/3x.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:09 PM
Nov 2022

But strangely, 50% strongly disapprove of Biden.

 

Jskudris55

(44 posts)
37. You presume those are all democrats
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:18 PM
Nov 2022

Who think democracy is threatened. The republicans think democrats stole the 2020 election so they think democracy is threatened too…

Mike_in_LA

(187 posts)
7. Yeah, but....
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:06 PM
Nov 2022

The "legitimately elected" question is +63% for Biden. That carries more weight than the approve/disapprove you cite, imo.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,097 posts)
16. I'm not sure what that means for tonight
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:13 PM
Nov 2022

But I've seen chatter here about not wanting him to run again - so there could be some straight-blue voters who don't want him.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
25. I know a lot of dems that don't want him to run again
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

Who are presumably voting straight blue tonight anyway. I don’t think one relates to the other.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
15. Not horrible given he's an incumbent presiding over horrendous inflation
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:13 PM
Nov 2022

But the exit polls have given overly rosy impressions before.

VMA131Marine

(4,153 posts)
18. There is reason to think exit polls should be pessimistic about Biden
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:16 PM
Nov 2022

Early and mail voters lean significantly Democratic so day-of in-person voting should have a Republican bias.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
24. They most definitely include early voters or exits would be profoundly skewed.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:30 PM
Nov 2022

45,000,000 + people voted early.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
23. Not really
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:23 PM
Nov 2022

The inflation was under Carter. "Stagflation" was a huge campaign issue in '80 (which also happened to be the peak year for the inflation).

By 1983-84, Volker had crushed it by forcing the economy into a recession.

Reagan ran for reelection on the heels of a recession, not inflation.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
29. Not fully true. In 1982, inflation was still 6.16%. So, it was definitely high and it hurt Reagan.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:09 PM
Nov 2022

In the terms of 1982 midterms, the Democrats gained 27 seats.

I actually feel 2022 is going to be very similar to 1982. The Democrats only gained one seat in the senate that year, but that wasn't enough to actually win the Senate.

They did hold their majority in the House, tho. So, Republicans won the Senate, Dems the House.

viva la

(3,324 posts)
40. I got my first mortgage in 84.... 11 7/8ths %
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 09:07 PM
Nov 2022

Inflation lasted a long time. Didn't help that Reagan kept trying those damned tax cuts for the rich.

WarGamer

(12,485 posts)
17. In general... the exit polls are bad for Dems...
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:13 PM
Nov 2022

Inflation, economy and crime seem to be heavily represented this time around.

We will see.

Just a few more hours until real votes are being counted.

Ace Rothstein

(3,193 posts)
33. If the age makeup of the electorate matches the exit polls them we are fucked.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:12 PM
Nov 2022

From CNN:

Only about a tenth of voters in this election were under age 30, while roughly one-third were age 65 or older. In 2018, about 13% were under 30, and about 26% were 65 or older.

W_HAMILTON

(7,876 posts)
34. Absolutely wrong.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:12 PM
Nov 2022

Inflation is just a few points higher than abortion, which is a big win for our side.

Crime is well behind the two of them, coming in around 10%, which is right around where gun violence and immigration is polling.

Don't know where you are getting your information from. Maybe a particular state exit poll rather than national. Feel free to cite your source.

W_HAMILTON

(7,876 posts)
43. Then specify that, because your original post was wrong.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 09:58 PM
Nov 2022

This was when national exit poll results were coming out and completely contradicted what you were claiming. If you were referring to a specific state, you should have specified so.

WarGamer

(12,485 posts)
44. ok bud...
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 09:59 PM
Nov 2022

no need to argue, in a few hours we'll both know a lot more.

Frankly using California or Texas exit polls to make national implications is stupid.

W_HAMILTON

(7,876 posts)
32. 45% is actually pretty good, all things considered.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:10 PM
Nov 2022

He had been polling the low 40s. I think probably the best we could hope for would be around 45%. Just with how fickle the electorate is, there's zero chance in today's hyper-partisan atmosphere that you would see a sitting president over 50%, so, all things considered, 45% is pretty good. I'll definitely take that, but I know they adjust exit polls as actual vote totals come in, so we will have to see how it ends up...

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